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Date Posted: 16:21:46 04/06/11 Wed
Author: john
Subject: Re: Already determined the outcome? 2
In reply to: Mamusz 's message, "Re: Already determined the outcome? 2" on 08:40:08 04/06/11 Wed

the list lois left... i should have known better...

i couldn't get her link to open... just as well anyway.

john


>>what makes you think that list of people were
>>homosexuals?
>>
>>john
>>
>>
>
>John,
>where did I say everyone on the list was a homosexual?
> What list? Are they?
>
>Mamusz
>

>
>>>> >>>>href="http://www.cofchrist.org/usaconf/journey.asp">
>h
>>t
>>>t
>>>>p://www.cofchrist.org/usaconf/journey.asp

>>>>Journeying Toward a USA National Conference
>>>>BY THE USA APOSTOLIC TEAM
>>>>
>>>>Q: Has church leadership already determined the
>>>>outcome on issues of same-gender marriage and
>>>>ordaining people in same-gender relationships?
>>>>
>>>>A: No, church leadership is committed to discernment
>>>>leading to the USA National Conference. This process
>>>>will include spiritual practices, dialogue,
>scripture
>>>>reflection, and study of credible resources that
>>>>provide multiple perspectives on human sexuality and
>>>>healthy, faithful, and committed relationships.
>>>>--------
>>>>
>>>>I don't believe that. Does anybody reading this
>>>>believe that? Following is a list of Community of
>>>>Christ staff members. Are you going to tell me that
>>>>they aren’t going to be putting their full weight
>>into
>>>>getting homosexual marriages and ordinations into
>the
>>>>life of the church?
>>>>--------
>>>>
>>>> >>>>href="http://welcomingcommunitynetwork.org/WCNnews20
>1
>>0
>>>O
>>>>ct.pdf">http://welcomingcommunitynetwork.org/WCNnews
>2
>>0
>>>1
>>>>0Oct.pdf

>>>>
>>>>WCNnewsletter October 2010 Volume 4 Issue 9 page 1
>>>>
>>>>Charlie Robison, evangelist
>>>>
>>>> >>>>href="http://www.cofchrist.org/directory/staff1.asp#
>a
>>"
>>>>
>>>>http://www.cofchrist.org/directory/staff1.asp#a

>>>>
>>>>Diane Sadler Disciple Formation Project—Resource
>>>>Specialist
>>>>
>>>>Doug Rottering Temple Bookstore Associate
>>>>
>>>>Peter Judd Worship and Consultant to Integrated
>>>>Formation Ministries
>>>>
>>>>Kris Judd President of Seventy Missionary
>>>>Coordinator
>>>>
>>>>Lauren Hall Project Manager-Hymnal
>>>>-----
>>>>
>>>>Submitted by Lois
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >>>>href="http://www.cofchrist.org/OnlineResources/issue
>s
>>/
>>>1
>>>>982homosexuality.asp">http://www.cofchrist.org/Onlin
>e
>>R
>>>e
>>>>sources/issues/1982homosexuality.asp

>>>>
>>>>Homosexuality 1982 Statement by the Standing High
>>>>Council

>>>>
>>>>The church recognizes that there is a difference
>>>>between homosexual orientation and homosexual
>>activity
>>>>(defined as sexual acts between persons of the same
>>>>sex). The former is accepted as a condition over
>>which
>>>>a person may have little or no control; the
>latter
>>>>is considered immoral and cannot be condoned by the
>>>>church.

>>>
>>>This kind of agrees with what I have been
>thinking
>>>for a very long time. The big "push" for the
>>>legitimacy of homosexuality in the COC in the USA is
>>>because there is much homosexuality in the hierarchy
>-
>>>either their children, siblings, or themselves. If
>>>not all, then many.
>>>
>>>The COC is really trying hard to make one believe
>that
>>>homosexuality is merely only another "normal"
>>>lifestyle. I have thought for a long time that that
>>>was the reason.
>>>
>>>Mamusz
>>>


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