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Date Posted: 16:15:36 04/22/11 Fri
Author: George
Subject: Re: Restoration Scriptures
In reply to: Lois 's message, "Re: Restoration Scriptures" on 10:24:16 04/22/11 Fri

>George said,
>
>"One of the priests who had been silenced and run off
>from Fairbanks, Tx branch told me that before he had
>been silenced, he had been instructed as part of a
>group not to mention the Book of Mormon to anybody who
>didn't actually belong to the church already. And this
>was in 1986, right before the Book of Mormon stopped
>being the foundation of the restored church, and
>became "auxilliary scripture" kept in the trunk unless
>someone needed to fix whatever historic Biblical
>doctrine that the liberals considered flat."
>
>and john replied,
>
>"i wont address your questions because of the
>statements of assumption and the obtuse attack in the
>last paragraph. it would appear that your mind is made
>up about me and about the church. no matter how i
>respond it will be used only as a platform from which
>to launch some other tirade (i am certain we will see
>another shortly after you read my response)..."
>
>john,
>
>I'll tell you why I have no respect for c-not-of-c
>members. The statement that George made was the
>absolute truth. You called it "statements of
>assumption and the obtuse attack". I know from my own
>experiences from the same time period that George is
>telling the truth. There were two instances when I was
>using the Book of Mormon in worship services. In the
>hippie days there was a concept called "vibes".
>Sometimes a person knows when there is opposition.
>"Shut up, shut up, shut up" was conveyed so clearly I
>could almost hear it. Once instance was from a church
>appointee. The other instance was from a wannabee
>church appointee.
>
>When confronted of all these facts it has always been
>the pattern that c-not-of-c members will flat out deny
>what is going on. They are either knowingly lying,
>(yes, there's that word "lie") or they don't want to
>be faced with unpleasant truths and so willing suspend
>intelligence. Either scenario has the same result. I
>don't respect liars and I don't respect willingly
>blind sheep.
>
>The c-not-of-c members are leaving this board because
>they can no longer hide the truth.
>
>Lois
>


Lois, John may be in the same position as a top executive crew member of the Chrysler Division of Daimler-Benz. I believe his name was Stallkamp. He went to the hardware store in the Midwest, and the cashier was complaining to another employee, "My God, look at what they have done to Chrysler! I'm never going to buy a Chrystler again!" When he checked out, the executive hoped to golly that the cashier wouldn't recognize his name on the credit card he handed her. He was an American who tried to stay with the company out of loyalty and hope that he could help turn things around, but the German executives who had taken over had already hammered the company in the ground by inept and testosteronific incompetence. Chrysler had seven billion dollars in cash reserves when the Germans took over. After the Germans poured 72 billion into the company the sum of its stock was only 43 billion dollars. The reason? A company is not assets, it's people. The reason that Chrysler seemed like an attractive takeover target was that it could manufacture automobiles at a lower overhead than either Ford or GM, so it made more money off each vehicle sold. Mercedes wanted to expand its market and could only do it with an outfit that understood how to mass produce and mass market. However, after the Germans took over and dmeonstrated that it was an acquisition, not a merger, the knowledgeable American executives who did not quit were fired. Then Daimler was left with a big, successful industrial plant structure, but the brains of it were gone.

The RLDS church was a wonderful church because it actually taught the efficacy of repentance for salvation. The people who took it over destroyed the very reason that the church was attractive in the first place, just like Daimler flattened out the very thing that made Chrysler an asset and turned it into a huge liability.

What John has tired of hearing is "I'll never go to the RLDS church again!" He may feel the need to go someplace that his connection with the CofC won't be recognized.

George

P.S. The only reason that Daimler didn't manage to wreck Ford is that the Ford family owned a 40% block of the Ford stock, and they would not sell, nor allow a fake merger that would cost them control of the company. That's exactly what happened to the RLDS church when the prophetic succession was taken out of the Smith family in a sell-out. Bob Eaton couldn't wait to sell Chrysler to Daimler and turn a successful company into a debt-ridden disaster. Apparently the last Smith prophet had similar eagerness, prompted by hopes of success that were just as erroneous.

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