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Date Posted: 22:22:25 04/15/11 Fri
Author: George
Subject: Re: GALA
In reply to: Lois 's message, "Re: GALA" on 19:26:25 04/15/11 Fri

>>>
>>>Does anybody that has been to the GALA webpage have
>>>any doubt that GALA was started by the RLDS church in
>>>the mid-1980s?
>>>

>>>
>>>“In the mid-1980s, a group of gay members of the
>>>Community of Christ (formerly the Reorganized Church
>>>of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) began meeting
>>>together in the Kansas City, MO area for fellowship,
>>>support, and worship. In 1987, a retreat was held at
>>>Camp Manitou in Michigan where GALA was formally
>>>organized with the adoption of bylaws and the
>election
>>>of officers.”
>>> >>>href="http://www.galaweb.org/History.php">http://www.
>g
>>a
>>>laweb.org/History.php

>>>
>>>“GALA is an association of persons of all sexual
>>>orientations and gender identities affiliated with
>>>Community of Christ. Over twenty years old, this
>>>non-profit organization supports lesbian, gay,
>>>bisexual and transgender persons, their allies,
>family
>>>and friends. We celebrate our diversity and envision
>>>full participation for all in the life and ministry
>of
>>>the church.”
>>> >>>href="http://www.galaweb.org/About.php">http://www.ga
>l
>>a
>>>web.org/About.php

>>>

>>>
>>>Does everyone “clearly” see why the Community of
>>>Christ has as its objective full participation of all
>>>GLBT in “all” the ministry of the church, and will
>>>accept nothing less?
>>>
>>>Mamusz
>>>

>>
>>Anyone can see right through the hierarchy's claims
>>that it and GALA have nothing to do with each other.
>>Less than five years after GALA was started, the First
>>Presidency began giving "administrative approval" for
>>same-sex shacking up ceremonies to be held. Nothing
>>was said to the World Conference about any of this,
>>and its permission was not asked.
>>
>>It was rather like our president's war in Libya. He
>>didn't ask anybody. He just gave "adminstrative
>>approval."
>>
>>George
>
>One time my brother began cleaning my mother's garage.
>It really needed it so it was a good thing. But he
>knew that if he asked her she would say no. He told us
>that he would rather do it and then ask for
>forgiveness.
>
>That is what the leadership does all the time, not for
>a good thing though. It is hard to undo something that
>is already done.
>
>Lois
>
>
> >href="http://www.cofchrist.org/wc2002/sermons/Grant2002
>.asp">http://www.cofchrist.org/wc2002/sermons/Grant2002
>.asp
No longer there.
>Called to Discipleship: Coming Home in Search of the
>Path
>W. Grant McMurray 2002 World Conference Address April
>7, 2002
>
>“I am not in the habit of telling our delegates how
>they should vote, but I am about to make an exception.
>I request the delegates to this World Conference to
>table or refer all pending legislation on
>homosexuality so that we can avoid actions that will
>be divisive and shape a process by which a broader
>understanding and consensus can be built. I will ask
>the Standing High Council to participate with others
>in looking anew at this matter, seeking issues on
>which we can surely agree (God's love of all people,
>fidelity, the value of family, the sacredness of
>sexuality as part of creation) and shaping dialogue in
>areas where we do not agree (the blessing of same-sex
>relationships, standards for ordination, the
>interpretation and authority of scripture).
>
>In the meantime, I ask the Community of Christ to be
>willing to live with us on the boundary for a while.
>To do this means that we may not have a policy that
>guides every decision, but we will have to trust the
>Holy Spirit to accompany us in our choices. It means
>that some parts of the church may function differently
>from other parts of the church and there will be
>distinctions that are occasionally unsettling but
>representative of the diversity of our body, both in
>terms of viewpoints and cultures. We recognize that
>certain national governments have requirements that
>our local church leaders in those nations will need to
>respect and interpret in accordance with their own
>cultural understandings.
>
>Because of these many differences, our church stands
>in the midst of much ambiguity and inconsistency. We
>have a twenty-year-old statement from the Standing
>High Council that serves as official guidance, but has
>not been universally adhered to throughout the church.
>I will be totally honest and acknowledge that I have
>myself participated in situations where its provisions
>were not honored. I have been present in conferences
>where persons I knew to be in long-term, committed
>homosexual relationships were approved for priesthood
>in jurisdictions where their lifestyle was known and
>their ministry was accepted. The conflict within me
>was between lawgiver and pastor. To enforce the policy
>would have required me to intervene and prevent the
>ordination of someone whose call to ministry I could
>not deny. This I could not do. This I will not
>do.


What the hierarchy is doing is not the equivalent of cleaning out a garage without permission. It is the equivalent of aborting a baby without the permission of either mother, father, or the state, in that the hierarchy has decided to kill the RLDS church and substitute an imposter in its place.

Just think. If I were able to successfully do away with Bill Gates and take his place, think how many very, very good things I could do for people with all that money. But, being as humanly flawed as the hierarchy, what would happen in fact is that I would help myself and all my relatives and friends first. Then, when someone else needed help, "Oops, the money's all gone!"

That was one of the points that Tokien made in THE LORD OF THE RINGS. Each one thought that if he could just get his hands on the ring of power forged by the Evil One, he could do such wonderful things with it. But in fact, by getting his hands on it, he would become the Evil One.

The RLDS church was a reorganization of the original church after the apostasy at Nauvoo. The LDS Church was seen as irredeemable wicked as an institution. But the current liberalists have decided that the power structure and political system of the LDS church gives more power to do more good works, since the laity need not be consulted in any decisionmaking process. So, by emulating the power structure of the LDS Church in a deluded attempt to do good works, the CofC is going to become just as destructive and mind-controlling as the LDS church.

Look at the example of the CofC ministers who have tried to "help" us here. Each one thinks that he is a minister of Jesus Christ and has great power to do good, when he is actually wearing one of the iron rings, and is a slave to evil. But he can't see the reality of his situation, because spiritually and psychologically, he is already fading into some netherworld.

George

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