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Date Posted: 20:41:38 03/21/11 Mon
Author: George
Subject: Re: CofC lenten scripture reading: Tuesday, March 22, 2011
In reply to: Lois 's message, "Re: CofC lenten scripture reading: Tuesday, March 22, 2011" on 09:54:09 03/21/11 Mon

>>And the Lord called his people Zion, because they were
>>were of one heart and one mind, and dwelt in
>>righteousness; and there were no poor among them. And
>>Enoch continued his preaching in righteousness unto
>>the people of God.
>>
>>And it came to pass in his days, that he built a city
>>that was called the city of Holiness, even Zion. And
>>it came to pass that Enoch talked with the Lord, and
>>he said unto the Lord, "Surely, Zion shall dwell in
>>safety forever." But the Lord said unto Enoch, "Zion
>>have I blessed, but the residue of the people I have
>>cursed."
>>
>>And it came to pass that the Lord showed unto Enoch
>>all the inhabitants of the earth, and he beheld, and
>>lo! Zion in the process of time was taken up into
>>heaven. And the Lord said unto Enoch, "Behold mine
>>abode forever." And Enoch also beheld the residue of
>>the people which were the sons of Adam, and they were
>>a mixture of all the seed of Adam, save it were the
>>seed of Cain; for the seed of Cain were black and had
>>not place among them.
>>
>>Genesis 7:23-29
>>
>>N.B. Don't look for this in the NIV, NRSV, or NLT that
>>John quotes. This scripture only exists in the
>>official bible of the Community of Christ, and (with
>>different versification) in the Mormon "Pearl of Great
>>Price." It was written by Joseph Smith, Jr., who the
>>CofC leadership told the World Council of Churches was
>>not the founder of the CofC, but was the
>>founder of the Mormon church. If you can figure how
>>that can be, let me know.
>>
>>It's odd that John, who is an ordained minister in the
>>Community of Christ, never quotes for public
>>consumption the official, authoritative scripture of
>>the Community of Christ, but instead supplies us with
>>scripture quotes from Bibles that his own church does
>>not recognize as authoritative. What is so offensive
>>about the scriptures that the CofC actually recognizes
>>as the word of God?
>
>The Community of Christ is one of those institutions
>which puts on a different face to the uninitiated
>public than it does within its own ranks. Consider the
>following:
>
>This is from their official website.
>
> >href="http://www.cofchrist.org/ourfaith/scripture.asp">
>http://www.cofchrist.org/ourfaith/scripture.asp
>
>Scripture in the Community of Christ
>
>"Scripture provides divine guidance and inspired
>insight for life when responsibly interpreted
>and faithfully applied."
>
>We declare that Jesus Christ�who lived, was crucified,
>was raised from the dead, and comes again�is the
>Living Word of God. It is to Christ that scripture
>points. It is through Christ that we have life (John
>5:39�40). It is Christ whom we must hear (Mark 9:7).
>------
>
>Compare their public face to what their leadership
>elite, who are "responsibly interpreting"the
>scriptures have to say.
>------
>
> >href="http://www.cofchrist.org/peacecolloquy/2005/windl
>and.asp">http://www.cofchrist.org/peacecolloquy/2005/wi
>ndland.asp
>
>AUTHENTIC CHRISTIAN MISSION IN A MULTIFAITH
>WORLD
>
>"Christianity's monopoly on salvation is over."
>
>"Non-Christian traditions must be recognized for what
>they are � fully franchised systems of
>salvation with practitioners as decent and devoted
>as any other, with scholars as intelligent and gifted
>as any other, with members as whole and holy as any
>other. Any model of authentic Christian mission in a
>multifaith world must acknowledge that"
>
>Community of Christ 2002 World Conference Bulletin pp.
>75-78
>
>H-8 Interfaith Relations Committee Report
>
>(H-8) "The most troublesome text for the Christian
>community regarding other religious traditions is to
>be found in Acts 4:12. This text makes exclusive
>claims to salvation through Jesus Christ and him
>alone. This text has tended to foster prejudice
>toward not only Jews but all other religious claims as
>well because of its exclusivity. This text is best
>understood within the context of the sermon preached
>by Peter in the company of John and others. It
>should not be universalized and become a framework for
>either missional or theological purposes."
>-------
>
>I ask you, how can a Christian religious institution
>have two such divergent views? Which is the real one?
>
>In my opinion, the very fact that there are two
>completely opposite theologies proves dishonesty and
>manipulation.
>
>Lois

I agree, Lois. When I left the RLDS church, my evangelical friends told me: "See. We told you that a Mormon church is nothing but lies. They don't believe in anything they claim they believe in, and they will run over anybody who gets in their way."

It should not be universalized and become a framework for >either missional or theological purposes.

Notice the verb tense, here. The "should not" is actually a snotty "never should have been."

The statement is authoritative, and suggests that Christianity never got around to formulating a mission plan; however, the CofC is finally getting around to it, and is telling the Christian church what it should not do -- which is basically what it has done for the last 2,000 years. I don't plan to be told what not to do. After all, the CofC has told us that millenia old understanding of what decent people shouldn't do is up for grabs, so why ought we to take any "shoulds" and "shouldn'ts" from them at face value?

>
>THE NEW CURRICULUM: PROJECTED
>PRECEDURES AND SCHEDULINGPrepared by the Church
>School Division,
>Department of Religious Education
>September, 1967, Pages 4-5
>As we involve ourselves in the task of working with
>our writers, the positions set forth in the papers
>will give needed guidance to them as they attempt to
>translate the intent of the curriculum into actual
>lesson materials. This does not mean, however, that
>the study papers themselves will be made available to
>the writers. Each writer, in his relationship to an
>editor and in the light of the nature of his special
>assignment, will constitute a particular situation,
>and how the intent of curriculum is interpreted to the
>writer will be determined in large measure by the
>particularity of that relationship. As a general rule,
>we state that basicly these study papers are not
>intended for general circulation.

Lois, this sounds like Prince Dakkar's plan for constructing the Nautilus. It was also including in the original script to Roy Thinnes' old 60's TV show, The Invaders. The required elements for building destructive weapons was farmed out to various different manufacturing firms, each of which was presented with the design for a single part or subsystem, without being told what the part was for -- only the blueprints for that one part, and the specifications. No manufacturing firm had any knowledge of any of the others or of what their projects were intended for.

When all the systems had been paid for and moved to the assembly location, Nemo had a submarine that he used to destroy shipping, and the Invaders had disintegrator weapons.

Anyone who isn't in on the scheme can still be used to good effect, just by keeping him in the dark and not allowing him to ask any questions. That's exactly what's going on in the CofC with all this planning, in which one writer doesn't know what the other is doing. The plan is destruction of western civilization as we have known it since the Reformation. Ideas are weapons. So are lies. Ideas that are spawned from lies are devastating weapons -- as long as someone believes the lies. The CofC koolade crowd has drunk it all up, and they are ready.

George

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