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Date Posted: Saturday, February 14, 11:32:15am
Author: Peacock
Subject: Re: Really strange.
In reply to: Cindy Crawford 's message, "Really strange." on Saturday, February 14, 12:56:47am

Curious to your take on the refs Radike is generally not critical and resonably objective, but you did get the sense that there was a high bias towards Rider. Since we won it, I didn't expect much comment but interested in your take.

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[> [> Re: Really strange. -- jajk, Saturday, February 14, 01:20:46pm [1]

I think Radike does a good job for us and I am appreciative . Don't we all remember the years when we couldn't even listen to a Peacock game .

One of my two mild criticisms is related to your post indirectly. Maybe it just because of the egregious homer jobs we get from some other MAAC radio and internet guys , but Chris seems to almost too objective at times if such is possible .

The other would be a little too much in the way of stats about players , particularly those of opposition players , at times at the expense of telling us what is happening on the floor . Most of us listening , I assume , are pretty hard core Peacock and MAAC fans , and are aware of the stats he is mentioning . About the only stat of an opposing player that I have any interest in is his (her) foul shooting for the season and the game when they are on the line . Chris does this most of the time . But he does solid job overall in what are probably not the easiest of circumstances .

Re your mention of calls , I'll just refer to the Canisius game where Goldsberry got two charging calls his way by standing almost directly under his basket and falling down when Jenkins was finish ing a driving lay-up and Ryan was going virtually straight up for a lay-up after a solid pass from Nick . I hate that call when it goes against us , and even when it goes for us will say 'we were lucky on that one '. Really does look like some refs make this call in anticipation of what they expect . As Raftery says " just let the kids play on " .


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[> [> [> Re: Really strange. -- Gray Poll, Saturday, February 14, 01:33:51pm [1]

I think you're absolutely right about refs calling in anticipation or just by situation. One of the worst calls I ever saw occurred back in the day at Yanatelli. The player involved I remember very clearly was Mark Murphy.

He was fielding a hard pass right in front of us. He must not have known exactly where he was on the floor, because as he went up to control the ball he kind of balanced on foot as if he was close to line and didn't want cross it. He was of course a good foot and half in bounds, but the ref, whose name I've mercifully forgotten, from the other side of the floor, called him out of bounds...all he could possibly have seen was Mark balancing and from that decided that he must have been out...


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[> [> [> [> Re: Really strange. -- SPC78, Saturday, February 14, 07:47:04pm [1]

One of the worst 'anticipation calls'... Seattle, 1989, Men's Championship Game.... Rumeal Robinson was not fouled by Gerald Greene, Mr Clougherty, ... I was there by pure chance. The Hall should have won.... (brother went to SHU & played on freshman team, so I still root for them in all but 1 game a year)


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[> [> Re: Really strange. -- Cindy Crawford, Saturday, February 14, 02:40:28pm [1]

I didn't think too much about the refs during the game.Trying to recall,they were particularly hard on Bacon,three of whose calls ,which took him out of most of the game, could be best described as of the touch variety.One was a bump near mid court early that had little effect on anything and could have been let go...if anythng though it could be described as stupid. His fourth was away from the ball,where he appeared to get tangled up and a jersey was stretched. Looked worse than it was...could have been called either way or not at all.
Last was a positioning call underneath that would not have been called in the Big East.
Two other calls that I remember were what were once called force outs.Hall bring the ball up the sideline with pressure was bumped and forced to step out another Peacock,might have been Jenkins diving the baseline was"moved " laterally while he was in the air and forced to step out.Neither was a hard foul but both caused turnovers.
The play that could have been critical was Hall's open breakaway to the basket near the end of the game. I didn't get a good angle on it and I don't think the ref did either,but it looked like a goaltend--Dunne was irate but stopped short, not needing a T.
In general though,I think the players on this team are disciplined and seldom complain or question calls.Perhaps Jenkins a bit more than others ,but not to any great extent. In my opinion many of his complaints are questions regarding the lack of contact calls he gets when going to the hoop.


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