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Date Posted: Sunday, November 16, 11:30:23am
Author: oldtimer#1
Subject: Re: Only one game but...
In reply to: loyal 's message, "Re: Only one game but..." on Sunday, November 16, 10:44:32am

Loyal, your statement about Hall is absolutely true and valid for almost any freshman. However, Cindy's, Figgy's and my point about Hall is that we hope that he becomes more offensive minded as he did in the second half. Not a genuine scorer but proved that he has the ability to score.Has to shoot more even if he misses. Just needs to project a threat offensively. Very crucial for our other guards to help give them some daylight.

Also agree with your point and others on Gooding. Willing to wait a few more games but he has not shown that he is an offensive threat. As it looks now, a defensive stopper and role player at best. Too bad, one of the nicest kids and hard worker.


Regarding Costner, I do not see him as a #3 longer term. Solid player who will rarely hurt you and occassionally help you. Another tweener who can be and is a valuable role player. We need a true #3 who can shoot and score to compliment Wesley. Any basketball fan can see that. Hogga could have filled that role adequately but I hope JD will recruit another player who meets those obvious needs.


Agree also with your observations on defense but only in half court. As Cindy pointed out that trapping defense and full court pressure was successful. Perhaps our only bright spot along with Jenkins and Bacon. Lampley could have helped even more. In half court they were horrible. Cindy's observation was interesting in that regard i.e packing it down too much and not getting to the corners quickly.


Finally, with regard to Leon agree that he had a very poor game. Can't imagine an 89% free throw shooter missing two consecutive free throws that would have reduced their lead to 6 in the second half. I do disagree that he was constantly beat off the dribble. I watched him intently most of the night and he played very good man defense. At one point, he forced a five second turnover on their best player when we were making a mini run. Everyone gets beat once in a while but Nick played man pretty well. Problem was in the entire defensive rotation in the half court scheme. Refer again to Cindy's observation.



As Cindy said several posts ago we each will evaluate what we see. Interesting that the observations above were pretty unanamous. Let's see if things improve at Wagner. Winning on the road is never easy but Wagner has lost several players and is vunerable. Another poor showing will be difficult to take. Let's see.

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[> [> [> Re: Only one game but... -- Bergenbird, Sunday, November 16, 11:31:52am [1]

Agree on Costner but he needs to get much stronger as he was pushed around a bit underneath.Having been strictly a role player on a great SHPrep team he needs to start asserting himself and seems to be too unselfish.
Gooding needs to find out what his role is as he was a total non factor in this game.
Hall a pleasant surprise especially when he finally decided to shoot the ball. He was mismatched against Lehigh's Hall but so was everyone else against the best player on the floor.
Hill- noticed his jump shot in practice has a strange hitch to it and was rejected by the 6'8 frosh from Saddle Brook on his first attempt. Another candidate for the weight room along with Costner but has good upside..
Mumford-will only play as a result of Lampley's absence.
Jenkins- looks much stronger and is not afraid to go to the basket. His threes will come.
Traore-good effort but should not be starting.
Bacon-Sometimes out of control ( like Gooding) when attacking the basket but should have some dominating nights.
Leon-probably his worst game to date- had open threes- maybe it is the new 3 pt. line.

After good reports on Reid- DNP. Hurt?

Finally, if that was Conley in The Events Staff t-shirt by the SPC bench we at least will have a physical presence next year


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