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Subject: Jeremiah, not, the name of Jacob Cleveland's father Author: Grace S. Green [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: Tue, Apr 13 2004, 16:13:43 Jeremiah was not the name of the father of Jacob Cleveland of Elbert County, Georgia. Jeremiah was the name of Jacob’s wife father. Extensive research has not revealed a Jeremiah Cleveland born or living in the Colonies any earlier than 1747. There is however a John Cleveland who is most probably the father of Jacob. “1767 Tithables, Pittsylvania County, Virginia. Taken by Captain John Ward. John Cleveland Thomas Hardy, Peter Lee. Negroes; Harry, Jack, Abram, Bess, Tom, Ben, Nant, Jack, Dick, Matt, Tom, John, Thomas, Nant.” Jacob Cleveland had sons who went to Pittsylvania County, and Millie’s brothers were there Jacob also had land deals with a Thomas Hardy. There is still a John Cleveland listed in the 1790 Pittsylvania County, Virginia census with three others in his household. This is in my opinion the same John Cleveland. The info in the 1899 Cleveland Genealogies, where this connection is published, is incorrect and not documented. Grace S. Green [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: Jeremiah, not, the name of Jacob Cleveland's father Author: Elaine Cleveland Wilson [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wed, Apr 14 2004, 13:57:13 Grace, Do you know any information on a John Cleveland with a wife named Susan and children named Jasper D. and Margy Cleveland. Jasper was born in 1862 and died Jan. 2, 1946 in Cleveland, Ga. ? Thank you. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Jeremiah, not, the name of Jacob Cleveland's father Author: Grace S. Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Fri, Apr 16 2004, 12:21:11 Elaine, I have a John Cleveland born in Habersham County, Georgia who married as his second wife Susan Forman in ca 1866. I don't have all his children. This John had a brother named Jasper, so he could have named a son named after him. Grace [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Jeremiah, not, the name of Jacob Cleveland's father Author: Elaine Cleveland Wilson [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sat, Jul 10 2004, 17:37:02 Grace, Thanks for the info. Would you happen to have John's 1st wife's name? This Susan could have been my ggrandfather's step-mother. No male was listed in the 1870 Hart Co. census except Jasper age 8 yrs. So if this John and Susan didn't marry until 1866, she couldn't have been his mother. Also Jasper had a sister (Margy) age 11yrs. in this census. Thanks [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Jeremiah, not, the name of Jacob Cleveland's father Author: Carolyn Ellertson [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wed, Jul 27 2005, 0:21:56 Grace: So far I have found them both to be named Jeremiah.. Millies father as well as Jacob's father. It was a very popular name in those days. It doesn't preclude Jacob's father from having the same name. Have you found anything further to prove that Jacob's father was NOT named Jeremiah? I'd be interested in knowing the source. Thanks. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Jeremiah, not, the name of Jacob Cleveland's father Author: Grace S. Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sun, Jul 31 2005, 14:47:58 Carolyn, Where have you found them both to be named Jeremiah? I have found nothing on a Jeremiah Cleveland in that time frame. Not until 1747. I have included my reasons and references for my statements in my first post. Grace S. Green [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Jeremiah, not, the name of Jacob Cleveland's father Author: Grace S. Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sat, Jul 03 2004, 11:29:57 Elaine, I'm sorry, I don't find that John and Sarah or Jasper in my records. Grace [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Jeremiah, not, the name of Jacob Cleveland's father Author: Valerie Cleveland [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sun, Jun 27 2004, 1:31:23 [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Jeremiah, not, the name of Jacob Cleveland's father Author: Valerie Cleveland [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sun, Jun 27 2004, 1:36:29 I have always wondered about the Jeremiah thing. I don't have any evidence that Jeremiah was the father of Jacob, so, you may be right. Now, was John Cleveland then the son of Alexander? There are so many John Clevelands this gets confusing. Also, if anyone have any information on Jacob Cleveland being in the Revolutionary War I would appreciate you sending it my way. I am trying to get into DAR. Or if not, perhaps through Millie White. Thanks [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Jeremiah, not, the name of Jacob Cleveland's father Author: Grace S. Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sat, Jul 03 2004, 11:18:03 No, John, Jacob's father,wasn't the son of Alexander Cleveland (son of Roger). That John married Elizabeth Coffee/Coffey and they were the parents of Col Benjamin Cleveland of King's Mountain fame. There has been no proof ever found that Jacob Cleveland fought in the Rev War. The old 1899 books have quoted "somebody", no name given as saying, "Jacob and four of his sons were in the War." An old unpublished 1925 manuscript by Virginia Cleveland Gant Wall also made this statement, but I believe it came from the old books, too. If it's just getting in the DAR through Jacob, you want, you probably can. The Elbert County, Georgia SAR has accepted applications for members. Saying Jacob was a Patriot. No documentation. Which of Jacob's children do you descend from? Jeremiah White, father of Milley, died in 1776. Hope this helps. Grace S. Green [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Jeremiah, not, the name of Jacob Cleveland's father Author: Valerie Cleveland [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Mon, Jul 05 2004, 20:31:17 Thank you for your response, Grace. Here is my (bare bones)direct line with all siblings left off. Does my info. corroborate with what you have? What would you suggest is the best approach to entering DAR? Perhaps I should apply for DAR through a maternal line. If you would like any additional information on members of this line I would be happy to share what I have. I have very little information on Wyatt Cleveland 1764-1830. 1 Alexander Cleveland I 1617 - +Lady Axminster, Fanny 2 Alexander Cleveland II 1659 - 1770 +Mildred Presley 1667 - 1770 3 Jeremiah Cleveland 1700 - 1789 +Sarah Mimms 4 Jacob (Sr.)Cleveland 1737 - 1789 +Millie White 1739/40 - 1805 5 Jeremiah Cleveland 1757 - Jeremiah Cleveland: *3rd Wife of Jeremiah Cleveland: +Ann Sutton 1762 - 1794 6 Wyatt Cleveland 1764 - 1830 +Temperence Freeman 1767 - 7 Joseph Cleveland 1791 - +Martha (Patsy) Meeks 1792 - 8 Thomas Anderson Cleveland 1818 - 1873 +Evaline Sullinger *2nd Wife of Thomas Anderson Cleveland: +Rohda Holland 1836 - 1908 9 Benjamin Andrew Cleveland 1865 - 1942 2nd Wife of Benjamin Andrew Cleveland: +Sara (Sallie) Pearson 1867 - 1932 10 William Floyd Cleveland 1900 - 1958 +Mittie Vitamie Beam 1906 - 1970 11 William Albert Cleveland 1938 - +Laverne Harris 1943 - 12 (ME) Valerie Gwen Cleveland 1963- [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Jeremiah, not, the name of Jacob Cleveland's father Author: Grace S. Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sat, Jul 10 2004, 12:41:46 Valerie, Roger Cleveland was the father of Alexander, Sr. Alexander's wife was named Mary unknown (there is no Mildred Presley yet found associated with this family. Who is that Jeremiah Cleveland & Sarah Mimms? There is also no Jeremiah ever been found in that time fame, as a father of Jacob. I have Ann (Nancy) Sutton as the 1st wife of Jeremiah. He married 2nd Helen Clark and 3rd Mrs. Martha Smith, according to my records. Which child do you descend from there? Or is Wyatt (brother of Jeremiah), your line? I don't have a Benjamin Andrew Cleveland, but that's not to say there wasn't one. :-) Whose son was he? Grace [ Post a Reply to This Message ]