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Date Posted: 19/07/02 5:34:02 GMT+10
Author: Axaday
Subject: Re: Dreamwave G1 #4
In reply to: Goktimus Prime 's message, "Re: Dreamwave G1 #4" on 18/07/02 21:10:11 GMT+10

>>
>>What is the *correct* way to draw humans? Maybe they
>>should just include photographs instead of drawings.
>>
>
>For one thing, humans don't have their fingers all the
>same length. ;p

I think the Flintstones only have 3 fingers per hand. And their heads are a very large portion of their total mass (or their volume, anyway). We just accept this stuff because its a cartoon. It isn't being presented as a photoreal picture of the world. I like his people. They look like people from a cartoon movie. Like Titan AE.

>>8/5! 8/5! 8/5! Why are you so arrogant that you
>>keep yourself intentionally ignorant of such easy
>>conversions??? You say that there is no reason for
>>you to bother with it and then you complain when you
>>can't communicate. It isn't THEIR fault. It's yours.
>> 83.2 km.
>>
>
>Ppppfffttt, I'll most likely never need to use
>imperial units in my life, so there's not much point
>in learning how to convert it other than for perhaps
>the odd occasion that I might bump into it. But I'm

For instance, when you were reading this comic.

>probably just as likely to bump into something written
>in Classical Latin, but you don't see me rushing to
>learn that extinct language. :p

To learn classical Latin, you would have to learn skads of vocabulary and all the stems of a convoluted (way out of control) case system. To learn to convert miles to kilometers, you only have to remember 8/5. Or even the rough estimate: There are almost 2 kilometres in a mile. It just doesn't seem like much trouble to remember that. Or write it down next to you desk so you can check.

But I don't actually believe that you are unaware of the conversion. I think you just like to yell. ;P

>Furthermore, it's a hassle (and I'm a lazy sod) to
>have to convert everything over. It's also confusing,
>'cos I really do just naturally think of things in
>metric units, so I was actually expecting the
>Dreamwave posters to be a LOT smaller than they
>actually are. You can imagine my surprise when I
>picked up the Dreamwave poster with Soundwave and the
>Decepticon cassettes! I was astonished at how big that
>poster was -- I was expecting it to be so much
>smaller. Oh well.

And you would have known how big the poster was.

>We could rave on about this till the cows come home
>(and in the past, we have) but you'll know that I'll
>always have a good bitch whenever I see an imperial
>unit of measure, cos they kinda suck like hell. :p :p

Yep

>>Two things to note: Since Devestator is primarily
>>tall rather than wide, he doesn't hold as much water
>>on top of his surfaces as the Nemesis. It can come
>>off much faster. Plus, humans come out of the water
>>soaked because their clothes and skin and hair absorb
>>water and hold it in. Metal doesn't do that. The
>>water would roll off Devestator as soon as he came out
>>of the water, leaving him simply damp.
>>
>He wasn't even damp!! Surely they could've drawn a few
>more droplets throughout the body -- maybe a puddle on
>the shoulder or two... he just looked way too dry. If
>not for the fact that the splash was too small, it
>kinda looked more like he was jumping into the water,
>rather than out of it.

I think its the photoreal thing again. I really don't think that the drawing is detailed enough for me to say whether he is DAMP or not. I sure don't see enough closeup to see whether there are droplets on him.

>>Since Prime and Superion were there and you were not,
>
>How do you know I wasn't there, huh? Maybe I was!
>Maaaaaaybe I was. Or maybe I was tripping on acid...
>hrmmm... ;p

Uhh.....

>>Issue #4 needn't provide a reason. #1 did. He's been
>>reprogrammed.
>>
>
>I just had a quick re-read of #1, and I didn't see any
>mention of Grimlock having been reprogrammed by
>Megatron. I know that he was reprogrammed by the
>humans, and yes, it is very possible that he could
>have been reprogrammed by Megatron, but I don't recall
>anywhere in the comics that actually states that
>Megatron has done this.
>
>I'm not saying that it's a bad hypothesis, in fact,
>it's a very valid one, but if there is actual evidence
>that Megatron has done this, please point it out to me.

I thought that they were all rigged to be remote controlled. Was I wrong? I've had a real problem following a lot of what is going on in the comic. I should reread it all the way through. I opened page 1 and didn't know what the big metal ball that the TFs were in was. I still don't recall what was going on.

>>The heck? I don't remember seeing the key.
>
>Turn to the 23rd page and have a good look at that
>little golden thingie that Wheeljack is playing around
>with his utility arms (which is a pretty cool homage
>to Gundam and is also a more practical modification
>for Wheeljack IMO) -- it's a little Key to Vector
>Sigma.

Are you saying it IS the Key or it LOOKS LIKE the key? I went back and say that and I don't see any reason to assume its the key.

>By the way, I just spent the last couple of hours
>making this page to illustrate my opinion on the fight
>between Devastator and Superion -- I'm still not
>convinced that Superion could have knocked Devastator
>down like that with a right hook after having grabbed
>his left wrist. The fact that there is a huge gap
>between the first two frames (ie: HOW the hell did
>Superion manage to pull that punch) is really bad
>visual narrative in terms of story telling in a comic
>book format. It's a very poor use of the cinematic
>technique.

I'm glad you're enjoying your time off from work! ;P I have a job, so I didn't pay any attention to the giants fighting. I just took it that they were fighting. Without reading the long analysis of the fight (sorry, I just sort of skimmed it), I'd just say that we can't really tell how much time transpires between cells. I think that the cells are just a list of pictures that were drawn to represent "Superion fighting Devestator" and I don't really think that anyone choreographed the fight.

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