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Date Posted: 04:13:38 10/08/02 Tue
Author: Ìàêñèì
Subject: Íå ìîãëî òàì áóòè îêðåìèõ "ðóññê³õ".
In reply to: Êðîò 's message, "ðóñü, ðóñè, ðóñüê³ (äî Ìàêñèìà)" on 12:38:49 10/07/02 Mon


² âèñòà÷ຠæ íàñíàãè ðîçìîâëÿòè ç çîìá³.:) Êðîòå, âîíè (âñÿê³ Ëºíè, Àáàêóìîâè, Nordish Poverty) ïîä³áí³ äî ìåðòâèõ ìåõàí³çì³â. ßê ìîæíà ùå ïîÿñíèòè ïîâòîðåííÿ âåñü ÷àñ òèõ ñàìèõ çàë³ïóõ ç Âîëêîíñüêîãî, Äèêîãî ÷è Óëüÿíîâà. Ìèíå ÿêèéñü ÷àñ, ³ çîìá³ ïîâòîðþâàòèìå í³ñåí³òíèöþ çíîâó ³ çíîâó, òèìè ñàìèìè ñëîâàìè, íåìîâ íå áóëî í³ÿêî¿ ðîçìîâè äî òîãî. Çðîá³òü ñâ³é ñàéò ³ âèñòàâòå íà íüîìó ñâî¿ êðèòè÷í³ òåêñòè, öå íàáàãàòî êîðèñí³øå äëÿ âñ³õ.

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Íå òðåáà çàáóâàòè, ùî ðîñ³ÿíè íàäàþòü ïåðåâàãó Ëàâðåíò³¿âñüêîìó çâåäåííþ, òîä³ ÿê ˳òîïèñ Ðóñüêèé - öå ²ïàòñüêå (²ïàò³¿âñüêå). Àëå ñïèñêè ìàþòü ñï³ëüíèé ïî÷àòîê - "Ïîâ³ñòü âðåìÿíüíèõ ë³ò", ùî çàê³í÷óºòüñÿ 1117-1118 ðîêó, - äàë³ éäóòü ðàçí³ ïðîäîâæåííÿ.

ßêùî âèéäå çàâàíòàæèòè (ó ìåíå çàðàç íå âèõîäèòü, òðåáà ÷åêàòè, à çâ’ÿçîê í³ÿêèé)
http://hudce7.harvard.edu/~ostrowski/pvl/
ìàòèìåòå ÷óäîâå ïîð³âíÿííÿ ÏÂË çà ð³çíèìè ñïèñêàìè.

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 ²ïàòñüêîìó ñïèñêó òàê³ ôðàçè çà 6611 (1103) ð³ê:
"Ïîëîâöè æå âèäåâøå óñòðåìëåíüå Ðóñêîå íà ñÿ, íå äîñòóïèâøå ïîá€ãîøà ïåðåä Ðóñêûìè êíÿçè".

"Ïîëîâöè æå ñëûøàâøå, ÿêî èäóòü Ðóñü, è ñîáðàøàñÿ áåñ ÷èñëà"


Öåé âæèòîê íå âèïàäຠç çâè÷àéíîãî - "Ðóñè", "Ðóñü", "Ðóñêîå (Ðóñòèè, Ðóñüñêîå) õòîñü, ùîñü" Ïåðåêëàä Ë.Ìàõíîâöÿ â³ðí³øèé çà Ëèõà÷îâñüêèé.

Â.ßðåìåíêî (³íøèé ïåðåêëàä ²ïàòñüêîãî çâåäåííÿ "Ïîâ³ñòü âðåì’ÿíèõ ë³ò, Ê., 1990") ïðèïóñêàº, ùî òóò â³ðøîâàíèé òåêñò. Ñïðàâä³, ç ñàìîãî ïî÷àòêó 6611(1103) ðîêó éäóòü ôðàçè, ùî ïî÷èíàþòüñÿ ç "È" ÷è "À". ßêùî ¿õ ðîçòàøóâàòè ÿê â³ðø, âèõîäèòü ö³êàâî.
Ó íüîãî: "êîëè ïîëîâö³ óçð³ëè ñòð³ì ðóñ³â ïðîòè ñåáå..."

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