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Date Posted: 08:44:24 03/08/02 Fri
Author: Ëåì
Subject: Re: Âÿòè÷³, êðèâè÷³, ³ëüìåíö³ òà êàçàêè
In reply to: Ìàêñèì 's message, "Âÿòè÷³, êðèâè÷³, ³ëüìåíö³ òà êàçàêè" on 00:05:22 03/07/02 Thu

ß âçàãàë³ íå ðîçóì³þ, íà ÿê³é ï³äñòàâ³ ëüâ³âñüê³ òîâàðèø³ íàãîðîäèëè Ìîñêîâ³þ íàçâîþ Ðîñ³ÿ ³ âèä³ëèëè òàê áàãàòî ì³ñöÿ íà êàðò³, à ìîðäâ³ òàê ìàëî? Ïîâèííà íàçèâàòèñÿ ñâî¿ì ³ñòîðè÷íèì ³ìåíåì - àáî Çàë³ññÿì, àáî Ìîñêîâùèíîþ çà íàçâîþ ñòîëèö³. Òå ñàìå - ç òàê çâàíîþ "ϳâí³÷íîþ Ðóññþ". Ïî ïåðøå, Íîðãîðîäùèíó òðåáà â³ää³ëèòè â³ä Ïñêîâùèíè. Ïî-äðóãå, öå êîð³íí³ ô³íñüê³ çåìë³, òà é ìåæóþòü íå ç êèì-íåáóäü, à ç ñàìîþ Ô³íëÿí䳺þ.³äïîâ³äíî, ìàþòü áóòè çîíîþ ô³íñüêîãî âïëèâó (ìîæíà áóëî ðîçìàëþâàòè îäíèì êîëüîðîì). ² ÿ âæå íå êàæó ïðî òå, ùî ìèòö³ ç ÿêîãîñü äèâà ïðî³ãíîðóâàëè ²íãåðìàíëÿíä³þ, ÿêà âæå áîðåòüñÿ çà íåçàëåæí³ñòü.Öå íåêðàñèâî ³ çîâñ³ì íå ãóìàííî. Òåæ, ìåí³, áîðö³ çà ùàñòÿ ëþäñòâà:(
Çãàäàí³ âÿòè÷³ ³ ñõ³äí³ êðèâè÷³ - öå àâòîõòîííå ô³íñüêå íàñåëåííÿ, ÿêå ó ðàííüîìó ñåðåäíüîâ³÷÷³ áóëî îñëîâ"ÿíåíå. Íîâãîðîäö³ - òàê ñàìî. Íó äîáðå, ñüîãîäí³ öå âæå ³íøèé íàð³ä, íå âòîìëåí³ ô³íè, çâè÷àéíî (îñòàíí³ çáåðåãëèñÿ ÿê âèìèðàþ÷èé âèä ëèøå ó "ãëóá³íêå"). Àëå é íå ñëîâ"ÿíè. Öå ñëîâ"ÿíî-ô³íè. Îñü. ³äïîâ³äíî ó öüîìó îáðàç³ ³ ïîâèíí³ ðîçêâ³òàòè ¿õí³ íîâ³ ³íäèâ³äóàëüíîñò³.
Ç íîâãîðîäöÿìè ïðîáëåìè íå áóäå - âîíè ùå é äî öüîãî ÷àñó íîñòàëüãóþòü ïðî ñâîº â³÷å ³ âòðà÷åíó íåçàëåæí³ñòü ³ âèãàäóþòü ïàñêóäí³ àíåêäîòè ïðî ìîñêâèí³â.  ïðèíöèï³, ÿêùî íàïðóæèòèñÿ, òî ÷è íå çäàºòüñÿ Âàì, Ìàêñèìå, ùî ÿêîþñü ì³ðîþ íîâãîðîäö³ - öå íàø³ áðàòè-óêðà¿íö³?.. ßê³ çáåðåãëè, íå äèâëÿ÷èñü íà ñòîë³òòÿ ïðèìóñîâîãî îìîñêîâëåííÿ, äåÿê³ ðèñè, ÿê³ ð³äíÿòü ¿õ ç íàìè? Ïðîïîíóþ îáì³ðêóâàòè ³ ºñë³ øî ðîçãëÿäàòè ÿê åòíîãðàô³÷íó ãðóïó óêðà¿íñüêîãî íàðîäó.
Çà êîçàê³â âçàãàë³ íåìà áàçàðó. Òàì âæå ïðàöþº Êîì³òåò ïîâåðíåííÿ Êóáàí³ â Óêðà¿íó.
Ñìîëåíùèíó ïåðåäàòè Á³ëîðóñ³¿.
Òàê³ ìî¿ ïîïåðåäí³ çàóâàãè, àëå ÿ ïðîäîâæóþ íàïðóæåíî øóêàòè øëÿõè, "êàê íàì îáóñòðîèòü Ðîññèþ" íàéë³ïøèì ÷èíîì.

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