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Date Posted: 13:24:54 03/11/02 Mon
Author: Ëåì
Subject: Re: ïðî á³ëêó ñïîäîáàëîñü :)
In reply to: Òðåéòÿê 's message, "ïðî á³ëêó ñïîäîáàëîñü :)" on 21:24:04 03/10/02 Sun

À òè äóìàºø, ùî ò³ëüêè êèÿíè õîçàðñüêîãî "êàãàíà" ñîá³ çàïîçè÷èëè? Öå æ áóëà âåëèêà äåðæàâà, íàçâè÷àéíî âïëèâîâà ó ò³ ÷àñè. ¯¿ âïëèâè ìîæíà áà÷èòè ñêð³çü. ²ñòîð³ÿ æ íå ç Ðóñè ïî÷àëàñÿ, òî ò³ëüêè ó ñîâºöüêèõ ï³äðó÷íèêàõ òàê ïèøåòüñÿ. À òàì äî íàñ ñò³ëüêè íàðîäó òîâêëîñÿ, ùî ñòðàøíî ïîäóìàòè. ² âñå áóëè âåëèê³ äåðæàâè.  Êèºâ³ áóëî áàãàòî òþðêñüêîãî åëåìåíòó. À ùî âæå êàçàòè çà óãð³â ç ô³íàìè. ß äåñü ìàâ íåâåëè÷êèé ñëîâíè÷îê ñï³ëüíî¿ òþðêñüêî-ô³íñüêî¿ ëåêñèêè - ìîæå, ³ "êàãàí" òîé çâ³äòè, àëå ç äåùî çì³íåíèì çíà÷åííÿì. Âëàñíå, ùî òàêå "êàãàí"? Ïàõàí. ßêùî öå âåëèêèé êíÿçü Âîëîäèìèð - òî òîä³ ãîëîâà äåðæàâè, à ÿêùî éäåòüñÿ íå çà äåðæàâó, à çà îêðåìó ìèñëèâñüêó àðò³ëü - òî òîä³ áóäå ïî á³ëêàõ - "óðêàãàí":) Àëå ÿ íå âïåâíåíèé, ÷è "êàãàí" - òî âëàñíå òþðê³çì. Äåñü êîëèñü ÷èòàâ äîêëàäíî ïðî öåé òèòóë, àëå çàáóâ, ÿê çàâæäè. Ìîæå, ç ³âð³òó?  íèõ ùå é äîñ³ º îñîáëèâà êàñòà "êàãàí³â" (òèïó áðàõìàí³â), çâ³äêè ³ ðîçïîâñþäæåíå ïð³çâèùå Êîãàí, Êàãàíîâè÷. Àëå, ìîæëèâî, òî âîíè â³ä òþðê³â çàïîçè÷èëè,íå çíàþ.

"Áëàòíàÿ ðîìàíòèêà" - ÎÊ. Ñõîæå, òàê ³ º. Ôîðìà ïðîòèñòàâëåííÿ ñåáå âëàä³.

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