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Date Posted: 20:53:38 03/15/02 Fri
Author: Norman
Subject: Re: ñêåïòè÷íî...
In reply to: Òðåéòÿê 's message, "ñêåïòè÷íî..." on 15:15:59 03/15/02 Fri

Ïî-ïåðøå, ìîæëèâî ö³ ñàéòè íå ðåïðåçåíòóþòü äóìêó âñ³õ á³ëîðóñ³â.

- Pro tse my vzhe rozmovlialy - nu zvychajno sho isnuje mozhe odyn abo dva normal'nyh sajty adminy jakyh trymajutsja protylezhnyh dumok, ale v INTERNETI same dominujut' sajty anty-ukrainskoi napriamlenosti. Mozhna sebe tishyty dumkoju sho napevno bil'shist' zajchykiv je pasyvnym stadom jake obyraje Lukashenka i pje grazirovku Buratino, ale mova ide pro prave krylo i joho reprezentatsiju v svitovi merezhi.

Ïî-äðóãå, ò³ õòî òàê³ ðå÷³ ïèøóòü é ñòàðàííî çàë³ïëþþòü íèìè ñâ³é ³íòåðíåò, ö³ëêîì ñâ³äîì³ òîãî, ùî âîíî íàâðÿä ÷è ñïîäîáàºòüñÿ óêðà¿íöÿì. Âîíè áàíàëüíî ñàìîñòâåðäæóþòüñÿ çà ðàõóíîê óêðà¿íö³â.


- Tak, vony zamostverdzhujutsja za rahunok nas, ale tse ne znachyt' sho vony svidomo pomistyly stattiu shob nas obisraty (na vidminu vid moskaliv). V tomu i sprava (i tse same girshe) sho nahabni zajchyky tak popuhly z svojeji baltijsjkoi pyhy sho vony vlipyly material prosto jak by tse bula liuba insha stattia.


Îòæå, âîíè º ò³, õòî íå çðîçó쳺, áî ðîçóì³òè íå õî÷å. ×è äîö³ëüíî ïðîâàäèòè ç òàêèìè îñîáàìè äèñêóñ³þ?

- Ni, vony mozhe nesvidomi nashoi reaktsii na tsiu murniu (bo my [tse ja kazhu pro Ukraintsiv na zahal] bizhymo do siabriv v braterski obijmy vysolopyvshy jazyky i ne zauvazhujuchy jaki same v nyh pogliady), ale vony sobi prekrasno usvidomliujut' sho zajchyk to "svitlyj el'f" a Ukrainets' to jakyjs' tam stepovyj tsygan.

Ïî-òðåòº, ÿêùî ñàéòè ñïðàâä³ øòàìïîâàí³, òî ìîæëèâî âîíè ñòâîðåí³ îäíîþ ³íåò-´ðóïîþ - à ùî âîíà ìຠíà ìåò³, âàæêî çíàòè, àëå òî÷íî íå äðóæáó ³ ö³ëêîâèòå ïîðîçóì³ííÿ ç Óêðà¿íîþ ÷è ùîñü ïîä³áíå. Äî ðå÷³, òåðèòîð³àëüí³ çàç³õàííÿ òîá³ òàì íå òðàïëÿëèñÿ?

- Ja tak i dumav sho ty tak skazhesh. Ja bil'she mav na uvazi sho vsi ti sajty majut' v sobi podibni materialy - marennia Baltijskym Rajhom, vichna druzhba z Lotyshamy, Biloruska kolonija v Chernigovi, ne Slavianstvo zajchykiv i jak zvychajno tsyganskist' Ukraintsiv. Ne vsi ti sajy konkretno tak pyshut' ale pospilkuvavshys' z adminamy na jihnish zhe forumah na zhal' mushu konstantuvaty fakt - vsi vony dotrymujutsja tyh samyh pogliadiv navit' jaksho ta informatsija na sajti ne je vylozhena.

Òà ùîäî áàëòñòâà ÿê òàêîãî, òî öå ¿õí³ ïðîáëåìè. Âîíè â³ëüí³ ñåáå ââàæàòè õî÷ íàùàäêàìè åòðóñê³â :), òà é ñïðàâä³-òàêè ìàþòü â ñîá³ òå áàëòñòâî, õî÷ ìîæå é íå ñò³ëüêè, ÿê ¿ì õîò³ëîñÿ á :)

- Nu zvychajno, ja ne zbyravsja obgovoriuvaty z nymy teje baltstvo (hocha tse tezh dosyt' smishna tema), prosto ja hochu konkretno raz i nazavzhdy rozibratysja z virtual'nymy zajchykamy i jihnioju Tryn-travoju :) Tsezh take nahabstvo - nu rozumiju, moskaliv vony nenavydjat', ale shob ni z togo niz siogo pochaty polyvaty nas bolotom i NE BACHYTY nijakoi reaktsii vid nas na tse - duzhe kepsko. Tema bilorusiv v Myhajla zashukujetsja - duzhe legko zrozumity - my bojimosja vtratyty sojuznyka protiv moskaliv, ale chomu zajchyky z svoimy zamashkamy ne bojatsja vtratyty nas? Natsija 50-ty milioniv maje rahuvatysja z 10-t'ma? Dezh ta samopovaga pro jaku stil'ky pyshetsja?

Ùî ñàìå òè ìàºø íà óâàç³? Ïîÿñíè.

- Virtual'nu pidtrymku. Taki sajty jak Unso, Korchynskyj i MKUN, Ukraina-Rus - vsi vony majut' knopky na biloruski sajty. Jaksho ti bilorusy tsiniat' sojuz z namy - to vony sami vzhe davno na ti extremal'ni sajty zreaguvaty, natomis' vony z nymy prekrasni druzi.

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