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Date Posted: 14:01:31 12/22/01 Sat
Author: Ëåì
Subject: Re: ÷åêàé
In reply to: Òðåéòÿê 's message, "÷åêàé" on 13:08:11 12/06/01 Thu

ùîñü ñóìí³âàþñÿ, ùîáè ñåðåä æèä³â áóëî áàãàòî ðîá³òíèê³â, é òèì ïà÷å ñåëÿí :)

Ãåáðåÿì çàáîðîíÿòèñÿ çà öàðÿ îñåëÿòèñÿ íà ñåë³, òîìó âîíè ñêóï÷óâàëèñÿ ïî óêðà¿íñüêèõ ì³ñòàõ ³ ôàêòè÷íî çàì³íÿëè ñîáîþ íàö³îíàëüíó áóðæóàç³þ ³ âçàãàë³ ì³ñüêèõ, ùî áóëè ïðîñóíóòèìè ïîð³âíÿíî ç òåìíîþ ñåëÿíñüêîþ ìàñîþ. Öå óêðà¿íñüêà òðàãåä³ÿ, ïî äîñòî¿íñòâó íå îö³íåíà ùå é äîñ³ ³ñòîðèêàìè. Öå äóæå çàãàëüìóâàëî ðîçâèòîê íàö³¿. Àëå íå ãåáðå¿â â òîìó âèíà, öå áóëî ð³øåííÿ öàðñüêî¿ àäì³í³ñòðàö³¿.
Ùîäî ê³ëüêîñò³ ãåáðåéñüêèõ ðîá³òíèê³â, òî íà öüîìó æ ñàéò³ ìîæíà ïîäèâèòèñÿ äîðåâîëþö³éíó ñòàòèñòèêó:
Ïðîìèñëîâ³ñòü, ðåìåñëî, þâåë³ðè, áóä³âåëüíèêè, øàõòàð³ ñêëàäຠá³ëÿ 34%, ³ ïîäåííà ðîáîòà, îáñëóãà - 11%. Òàêèì ÷èíîì, äàëåêî íå âñ³ âîíè äî ðåâîëþö³¿ áóëè ëèõâàðÿìè. ϳñëÿ ðåâîëþö³¿ ñèòóàö³ÿ çì³íèëàñÿ íà ¿õíþ êîðèñòü, ¿ì â³äêðèòî áóëî äîñòóï äî íàâ÷àííÿ. Âò³ì, ÿê ³ âñ³ì ³íøèì, àëå ³íø³ íå äóæå ïîñï³øàëè ç òîãî ñêîðèñòàòèñÿ.  òîìó ³ ð³çíèöÿ.

Òè çàáóâàºø ùå îäèí âàæëèâèé àñïåêò: æèäè îäíå îäíîãî âèòÿãóþòü: äå ç"ÿâèâñÿ îäèí æèä, ñêîðî áóäå äåñÿòü éîãî ïðèÿòåë³â-æèä³â.

Ùî çàâàæຠóêðà¿íöÿì ÷èíèòè òàê ñàìî? Çàì³ñòü öüîãî âîíè ãîòîâ³ îäíå îäíîãî çæèòè ç³ ñâ³òó - îñîáëèâî ñõ³äíÿêè. Äóæå ñèìïàòè÷íà íàö³îíàëüíà ðèñà. Ó ãåáðåéñüê³é ñîë³äàíîñò³ íåìà í³÷îãî ïðîòèïðèðîäíîãî: çâàæàþ÷è íà âîðîæå îòî÷åííÿ, âîíè çâèêëè òðèìàòèñÿ îäíå îäíîãî. Öå âçàãàë³ ðèñà áóäü-ÿêî¿ ä³àñïîðè, à íå ò³ëüêè ñõ³äíèõ. Íàø³ êàíàä³éö³ òåæ ñòàðàþòüñÿ òðèìàòèñÿ âêóï³ - ïðèíàéìí³, ïåðøèõ õâèëü.

Ùîäî ëþáîâè äî íàâ÷àííÿ, òî òóò íå ñò³ëüêè ëþáîâ ÿê ïðàãíåííÿ çðîáèòè óñï³øíó êàð³ºðó, âçàãàë³ öå îòàê â äâîõ ñëîâàõ íå ïîÿñíèòè.

Ùî êðèì³íàëüíîãî â óñï³øí³é êàð"ºð³? Çâè÷àéíî æ, îðòîäîêñàëüíîìó ñâ³òîãëÿäó öå ñóïåðå÷èòü ç éîãî íåçäîðîâîþ ìàí³ºþ ñàìîïðèíèæåííÿ, àëå æ ãåáðå¿ íå ïðàâîñëàâí³, òîìó â íèõ ³ ï³äõ³ä äî æèòòÿ ³íøèé.

×óäîâî. Çíà÷èòü ìàéíî äîðîæ÷å áóëî çà æèòòÿ? ×îãî æ òîä³ äèâóâàòèñÿ?

Ïèòàííÿ íå ñòîÿëî ïðî æèòòÿ ÷è ñìåðòü. Âîíè íå çíàëè, êóäè ¿õ ãîíÿòü. Ìîæëèâî, â³ä÷óâàëè ³íòó¿òèâíî, àëå çíàòè íå ìîãëè.

Ùîäî Ïàëåñòèíè, òî Ïàëåñòèíà ìîæå-òàêè êðàùà áóëà çà ïîòîéá³÷íèé ñâ³ò? Àëå òóò íåìà ïðî ùî ãîâîðèòè, áî í³ìö³ ö³º¿ îá³öÿíêè íå äîòðèìàëè, òà î÷åâèäíî, é íå çáèðàëèñÿ äîòðèìóâàòè.

À õòî ïðî öå çíàâ òîä³? Õ³áà ñàì³ í³ìö³? Öå òè òåïåð çíàºø.

À ç êîãî æ òîä³ ñêëàäàëàñÿ âíóòð³øíÿ æèä³âñüêà ïîë³ö³ÿ, ãà?

Òè ùî, õî÷åø ñêàçàòè, ùî âîíè âñ³ ïðàöþâàëè ó ïîë³ö³¿? Öå òàê ñàìî áåçãëóçäî, ÿê ñòâåðäæóâàòè, ùî âñ³ óêðà¿íö³ îõîðîíÿëè êîíöåíòðàö³éí³ òàáîðè çàì³ñòü òîãî ùîá âîþâàòè.

öå ãîâîðÿòü ñâ³äêè í³ìåöüêî¿ îêóïàö³¿, ÿê³ âñå áà÷èëè íà âëàñí³ î÷³. Òàê îò, ò³ ñâ³äêè êàæóòü, ùî áàãàòî æèä³â ìàëè çìîãó âè¿õàòè íà "åâàêóàö³þ", àëå íå âè¿õàëè, áî íå õîò³ëè êèäàòè ìàéíà, à ïîò³ì ïðèéøëè í³ìö³, íàêàçàëè âñ³ì æèäàì ÿâèòèñÿ òóäè-òî î òàê³é-òî ãîäèí³, é æèäè öåé íàêàç Ö²ËÊÎÌ ÑËÓÕÍßÍÎ âèêîíàëè áåç íàéìåíøî¿ ñïðîáè îïîðó. Öèì ñâ³äêàì íåìຠæîäíîãî ³íòåðåñó áðåõàòè.

Íå âè¿õàëè íå òîìó, ùî íå õò³ëè êèäàòè ìàéíà, à òîìó, ÷îìó ³ òè ñàì íå âè¿õàâ áè - ç ÿêîãî òàêîãî äèâà òè ìóñèø âñå êèäàòè ³ ¿õàòè ó áåçâ³ñòü???
Ùîäî íåçäàòíîñò³ äî îïîðó, òî òåæ íåïðàâäà. Áàãàòî ãåáðå¿â ç îêóïîâàíèõ òåðèòîð³é ò³êàëè äî ïàðòèçàí - áóëè íàâ³òü â ÓÏÀ. À âçàãàë³ ïèòàííÿ ö³êàâå ç ïðèõîëîã³÷íîãî áîêó: ïðèãàäàé-íî ñîá³ ðîçêóðêóëåííÿ ñåëÿíñòâà, ó ÿêîãî â³äáèðàëè îñòàííþ êàðòîïëèíó ³ â³í òî÷íî çíàâ, ùî ïîäîõíå ðàçîì ç ä³òüìè, àëå íå ÷èíèâ îïîðó. ×îìó òè öåé ãð³õ çàêèäàºø ñàìå æèäàì? Öå ïñèõîëîã³ÿ áåççáðîéíîãî íàòîâïó, ïàðàë³çîâàíîãî ñòðàõîì ÿê êðîëèê ïîãëÿäîì óäàâà.

Âçàãàë³, ÿê ÿ ðîçóì³þ, ó "æèä³âñüêîìó ïèòàíí³" òè çíàõîäèøñÿ ïîêè ùî íà ðàíí³é ñòà䳿 ðîçâèòêó. Åâîëþö³ÿ òàêà: ñïî÷àòêó ëþäèíà ñòàâèòüñÿ äî ãåáðå¿â ïðîñòî áàéäóæå, íåéòðàëüíî, æèä³âñüêîãî ïèòàííÿ ÿê òàêîãî äëÿ íå¿ ïðîñòî íå ³ñíóº (ïîáóòîâîãî àíòèñåì³òèçìó ÿ íå ðàõóþ, òî áåçíåâèííà ôîðìà êñåíîôî᳿, ö³ëêîì çäîðîâà), ïîò³ì ëþäèíà ÿêèìîñü ÷èíîì â³äêðèâຠäëÿ ñåáå öå ïèòàííÿ (ìîæå ùîñü ïðî÷èòàòè íà öþ òåìó, íàïðèêëàä), ³ ç öüîãî ìîìåíòó ïðîçð³âຠ³ ñòຠïîñò³éíèì â³äâ³äóâà÷åì ñàéòó "Ðóññêîº íºáî". Ïîêè âñ³õ ìàòåð³àë³â íå ïåðå÷èòຠ³ íå ïåðåòðàâèòü - êðàùå ç íåþ â ñóïåðå÷êó íå âñòóïàòè. Íåùàñíèé æèäîáîðåöü íå ìîæå í³ ïðî ùî ãîâîðèòè îêð³ì æèä³â, ³ íà âñ³õ ôîðóìàõ ç çàòÿò³ñòþ ìàí"ÿêà ïîâåðòຠäèñêóñ³þ äî ö³º¿ óëþáëåíî¿ òåìè. Òå âñå â íüîìó áðîäèòü, áðîäèòü, àæ ïîêè íå çãàñíå. Ç öüîãî ìîìåíòó ïî÷èíàºòüñÿ ïðîöåñ âèäóæàííÿ ³ ïîñòóïîâî âåñü ³íòåðåñ äî æèä³â ñõîäèòü íàí³âåöü. Íó öå ïðèáëèçíî òàê ñàìî ÿê ïåðåõâîð³òè ó äèòèíñòâ³ íà ñâèíêó - ìîæíà ñêàçàòè, íàâ³òü íåîáõ³äí³ñòü. ϳñëÿ âèäóæàííÿ êîëèøí³é æèäîáîðåöü íàáóâຠçäàòíîñò³ áà÷èòè ïðîáëåìó ç âèñîòè ïòàøèíîãî ïîëüîòó, ³ ðîçð³çíÿòè ñåðåä "æèä³â" ëþäåé. Òîáòî áà÷èòè ó êîíêðåòíîìó ãåáðå¿ ñïî÷àòêó ëþäèíó, à ïîò³ì ãåáðåÿ (íà ñòà䳿 çàãîñòðåíîãî æèäîáîðñòâà âñå â³äáóâàëîñÿ íàâïàêè). Òàê îñü íà öüîìó çàâåðøàëüíîìó åòàï³ â³äêðèâàºòüñÿ, ùî äàëåêî íå âñ³ ãåáðå¿ º "æèäàìè":)))
ß íà äàíèé ìîìåíò äî öüîãî ïèòàíííÿ ïîâí³ñòþ áàéäóæèé. ßêùî âîíè ìåíå íå çà÷³ïàþòü, òî ³ ìåíå ¿õíº ³ñíóâàííÿ íº êàëèøºò.
Çâè÷àéíî, áóâàþòü äîáðå îðãàí³çîâàí³ ãðóïè, ÿê³ ³íêîëè ïðîñòî çàáåìáóþòü, àëå ïðèñâÿòèòè áîðîòüá³ ç íèìè ñâîº æèòòÿ - òî äëÿ òîãî òðåáà íàðîäèòèñÿ Ëþáîìèðîì Ïðèòóëÿêîì:)
Ìåí³ õî÷åòüñÿ â³ðèòè,ùî âîíè íå ïðåäñòàâëÿþòü ³íòåðåñè âñüîãî ñâ³òîâîãî ãåáðåéñòâà. Ãåáðåéñüêèé ñâ³ò º äóæå íåîäíîð³äíèì, òðåáà ïðî öå ïàì"ÿòàòè, ³ ÿêùî òåáå äðàòóº ÿêèéñü ïåéñàòèé íüþ-éîðêñüêèé âèëóïîê ç ÂÒÖ (öàðñòâî éîìó íåáåñíå:), òî öå ùå íå çíà÷èòü, ùî òðåáà éòè ãðîìèòè ñóñ³äñüêó òüîòþ Ðîçó, ÿêà í³ â ÷îìó ïåðåä òîáîþ íå çàâèíèëà.
Òîìó íå òðåáà äîçâîëÿòè ñîá³ òàêèõ óçàãàëüíåíü, ùî âñ³ æèäè ãëèòà¿, ùî ñåðåä íèõ í³êîëè íå áóëî àí³ ñåëÿí, àí³ ðîá³òíèê³â, ùî äî öüîãî âîíè âñ³ áîÿãóçè ³ ï"þòü êðîâ õðèñòèÿíñüêèõ íåìîâëÿò...
Âîíè âñ³ ëþäè, ³ ïðè òîìó ëþäè äóæå ð³çí³.
Âçàãàë³ ãåáðå¿ - öå ÿê õîëåðà, ÿêó Ãîñïîäü íàñèëຠíà ãð³øíèê³â. Öå ñâîºð³äíèé ³íäèêàòîð ãð³õîâíèöòâà íàö³¿. Òàì, äå âîíè îêîïàëèñÿ - îòî çíà÷èòü òó íàö³¿ áîã õî÷å ïîêàðàòè ïîä³áíî äî Ñîäîìà ³ Ãîìîðè. Âîíè - çíàðÿääÿ áîæî¿ êàðè. Ñüîãîäí³ óêðà¿íöÿì º íàä ÷èì çàìèñëèòèñÿ. Ò³ëüêè íå á³ãòè íà ïîãðîìè, à ïðèïèíèòè æåðòè ãîð³ëêó, ïðîñïàòèñÿ ³ áðàòè ³í³ö³àòèâó ó ñâî¿ ðóêè, ïîêè îñòàííþ ñîðî÷êó íå ñòÿãëè. ×è âæå ñòÿãëè?..



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