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Date Posted: 08:12:14 12/22/01 Sat
Author: Slytherin Godess
Author Host/IP: cx362464-a.poria1.az.home.com / 24.251.189.84
Subject: Re: Slash does not = Porn
In reply to: Michela Ecks 's message, "Re: Slash does not = Porn" on 18:44:04 12/21/01 Fri

>>>porn = illegal sexual stimulation
>>>slash = relationship between to people of the same
>sex
>
>Actually... Slash is stimulating. (I'm just getting
>a kick out of the thought that having sex is a form of
>sexual stimulation... and thus possibly illegal.)
>Slash CAN be erotic and pornographic.

Ah, kill my dictionary then. It says porn is illegal. *mutters* but still. I was half asleep when I wrote that, and my brain wasn't working clearly. Yes, slash can be stimulating, but not ALL slash is born. I think tha tis the point I was trying to get across. And it irks me that they targeted HP slash as 'kiddie porn' because the het would be to. *grr*

>>While I don't believe slash is porn, your definition
>>of porn is a bit fudged. Pornograhy is NOT illegal.
>>Selling it to minors is, but no legal definition of
>>porn depicts it as an illegal activity.
>
>I don't believe slash is porn either. (And the essay
>I have about Harry Potter slash issue really needs to
>be revised as it was largely a reaction to only the
>sexual slash of minors that WB made as they didn't
>seem to be slamming slash and erotica on the whole,
>just the stuff that might be construed by some
>definitions as child porn which is in some places
>probably illegal.)
>
>>Again, I don't think slash is porn, but it appears as
>>if you based your entire argument on the legality of
>>porn vs. the legality of slash, and that is not the
>>best way to argue it.
>
>Slash can be porn just as het can be porn. You can't
>say slash isn't porn fan fiction or porn isn't slash
>fan fiction for all fan fiction that is slash or porn
>because you can be slash and you can be porn. It's a
>story by story thing. There are some great authors
>who write friend stories with slashy over tones but no
>sex and than you can have your run of the mill almost
>het fic based on how the author has the characters
>act, marriage, kids and that whole deal. (The only
>thing worse than straight characters doing that is
>slashed characters doing that. *shudder*) Than you
>can have your porn.
>
>I have no problems with most of slash. I am offended
>by stories where minors IE those below the age of
>consent are having sex in a story. I wouldn't write
>it. I wouldn't read it. I find it offensive and
>distasteful and if I was in Warner Brother's shoes,
>I'd probably have already brought suit against fan
>fiction writers for damage to my trademark. That's
>just me.
>
>I'm babbling because it's getting late and the day is
>long. My major concern, trademark aside, are the real
>legal aspects. There are some states, based on how
>they have their state laws written regarding child
>porn, where a real good case could be made that fan
>fiction featuring fictional characters in sex acts
>could be a CRIMINAL (as opposed to civil) offense
>leading to jail time or possible reprecussions to
>parents of minor writers who write slash featuring
>minors as those parents could be whapped with child
>neglect if that was mentioned to the wrong people. I
>don't see it happening honestly because there hasn't
>been many cases but considering who is in the White
>House and some policy shifts that have occurred...
>*shrug*

Have I made an idiot out of myself? Probably. But definetly not as much as Mr. Stalker has. *snort* nice selection of names to choose from, indeed.

Slytherin Godess

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Nah, not an idiot -- Michela Ecks, 09:51:51 12/22/01 Sat (dialup-166.90.64.118.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net/166.90.64.118)

>>>>porn = illegal sexual stimulation
>>>>slash = relationship between to people of the same
>>sex
>>
>>Actually... Slash is stimulating. (I'm just getting
>>a kick out of the thought that having sex is a form of
>>sexual stimulation... and thus possibly illegal.)
>>Slash CAN be erotic and pornographic.
>
>Ah, kill my dictionary then. It says porn is illegal.
>*mutters* but still. I was half asleep when I wrote
>that, and my brain wasn't working clearly. Yes, slash
>can be stimulating, but not ALL slash is born. I think
>tha tis the point I was trying to get across. And it
>irks me that they targeted HP slash as 'kiddie porn'
>because the het would be to. *grr*

It's illegal by some standards. That is why you get carded for buying adult material. Ummm... yeah anyway.

Oh, if you want a great dictionary, try onelook.com

>Have I made an idiot out of myself? Probably. But
>definetly not as much as Mr. Stalker has. *snort* nice
>selection of names to choose from, indeed.

Oh, he's still here. He's Kat Corbett or whatever now. Like all stupid idiots, he'll continue his behavior till the amusement ends. You just have to learn to ignore/ban them if they don't do illegal stuff and the death threats on LJ constitute illegal. My own set (I have a set, not one or two) just do their own thing of stunt stapling comments and fake jokes. They get such a kick out of it and it's not illegal, I just let them continue on with it in the privacy of their own stuff since most sane people look and go "Crazy person." Cassie's stalker hasn't quite figured out how IP addresses work based on their posts so they demonstrate extreme stupidity.

As for Warner Brothers, it is hardly the first and last fandom to get nailed for Slash. Several others have gone through it to. I don't sense any real problem though since while they have said this, they haven't taken any real action.

>Slytherin Godess

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