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Date Posted: 14:07:21 02/01/02 Fri
Author: Darkrose
Author Host/IP: NoHost / 155.44.64.87
Subject: Re: Slash does not = Porn
In reply to: Michela Ecks 's message, "Re: Slash does not = Porn" on 18:44:04 12/21/01 Fri

>>While I don't believe slash is porn, your definition
>>of porn is a bit fudged. Pornograhy is NOT illegal.

Actually, that depends on your jurisdiction. "Pornography" is actually not a legal category at all. The legal question is whether or not material can be deemed "obscene" (not possessing literary or scientific value according to community standards). Distributing obscene materials to minors is illegal--but what's obscene in San Francisco and what's obscene in Salt Lake City is going to be vastly different.

>I have no problems with most of slash. I am offended
>by stories where minors IE those below the age of
>consent are having sex in a story.

See, I can understand that--but I don't see very much of it happening. Most HP slash authors "age up" the characters to at least 16--which is the age of consent in Great Britain.

Though I do find it a bit amusing that so many people are getting their panties in a bunch about this. *I* certainly didn't wait until I was legal to start having sex...wonder how many of the people complaining did?

I wouldn't write
>it. I wouldn't read it. I find it offensive and
>distasteful and if I was in Warner Brother's shoes,
>I'd probably have already brought suit against fan
>fiction writers for damage to my trademark. That's
>just me.

What WB is worried about is that people will start ranting that "Harry Potter is Gay!" just like they are ranting that JKR is promoting Wicca. And I suppose they can bring suit, but I strongly suspect that their legal staff has figured out that it just isn't worth the time and effort to chase after a bunch of broke young women.

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Re: Slash does not = Porn -- Darkrose took mine :'(, 19:25:29 06/24/02 Mon (spider-ntc-td051.proxy.aol.com/198.81.17.171)

>>>While I don't believe slash is porn, your definition
>>>of porn is a bit fudged. Pornograhy is NOT illegal.
>
>Actually, that depends on your jurisdiction.
>"Pornography" is actually not a legal category at all.
>The legal question is whether or not material can be
>deemed "obscene" (not possessing literary or
>scientific value according to community standards).
>Distributing obscene materials to minors is
>illegal--but what's obscene in San Francisco and
>what's obscene in Salt Lake City is going to be vastly
>different.
>
>>I have no problems with most of slash. I am offended
>>by stories where minors IE those below the age of
>>consent are having sex in a story.
>
>See, I can understand that--but I don't see very much
>of it happening. Most HP slash authors "age up" the
>characters to at least 16--which is the age of consent
>in Great Britain.
>
>Though I do find it a bit amusing that so many people
>are getting their panties in a bunch about this. *I*
>certainly didn't wait until I was legal to start
>having sex...wonder how many of the people complaining
>did?
>
>I wouldn't write
>>it. I wouldn't read it. I find it offensive and
>>distasteful and if I was in Warner Brother's shoes,
>>I'd probably have already brought suit against fan
>>fiction writers for damage to my trademark. That's
>>just me.
>
>What WB is worried about is that people will start
>ranting that "Harry Potter is Gay!" just like they are
>ranting that JKR is promoting Wicca. And I suppose
>they can bring suit, but I strongly suspect that their
>legal staff has figured out that it just isn't worth
>the time and effort to chase after a bunch of broke
>young women.

ok Harry Potter is not gay, nor is JKR promoting wicca!(and I know that you wernt intending that were, but I just had to say something about that) I confess, I enjoy reading the HP slash stories, an No not all slash include porn. To tell you the trouth, I've read about 50 HP slash stories (including my own and my friends) and very few of them have any form of sex or pornography.

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Ok, Harry Potter is not gay, nor is JKR promoting wicca!(and I know that you wernt intending that were, but I just had to say something about that) I confess, I enjoy reading the HP slash stories, an NO not all slash includes porn. To tell you the trouth, I've read about 50 HP slash stories (including my own and my friends) and very few of them have any form of sex or pornography.

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