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Date Posted: 09:03:58 04/25/17 Tue
Author: Knut Holt
Subject: How does doctors and health personal hunt for child abuse and people they can report to authorities





By Knut Holt

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When any kind of health personal has something to do with your child, they are always looking for signs in your child of sexual abuse, abuse by violence, mental abuse or neglect.

They do so when they perform a well-child physical, when they examinr and treat a child for any disease and of cource when they examine a child after suspicion of some kind of abuse.

Doctors, dentists, and all therapists have learned to be suspicious of any parents or any person near to the child of being an abuser, and they have also been instructed from superior authorities to be suspicious. Many doctors or health personal are downright brainwashed to interprete any unusual as signs of sexual abuse, and have lost their ability to reason logically about these matters.

In many societies health personal also feel they have the obligation to report a certain numeber of possible abuse cases each month or so, and are afraid that themselves will be suspected for abuse or for neglecting their duty if they do not dulfill they quota.

In many communities halth personal also get economical reward for every suspicion they report.

This atmosphere has contributed to an exaggerated tend to interprete findings as signs of abuse.

Here is listet the approach doctors use to detect possible abuse and the signs they look for:

Initially the health worker tries to start a communication with the child about his daily life, his interest, his school work and his friends, but without asking too specific. During this conversation the health worker is eagerly listening to tails of any ativity that might be iterpreted as an abusive process.

The health worker might then take hold of some material the child tells about and ask some more in depth. At this point he will typically adress the feelings of the child, if he is generally sad or sad for something specific or is afraid of something in his life.

If it is difficult to get the child tell openly about anything of the mentioned subjects, that by itself tend to be interpreted as a sign of something wrong in the life of the child.
It will also awake suspicion if the child shows more interest or knowledge of some matter, especially knowledge about the human body and sexuality, than that belonging to a very restricted standard for what is concidered age appropriate.

Looking at the intimate zones of a child is a main method to detect signs that can serv to be interpreted as symptoms of sexual abuse. The doctor does not only look for inuries and other physical symptoms, but also the reaction of the child when the doctor approaches the intimate zones.

In addition to the specific examinations of the genital and rectal areas, the doctor will typically approach the intimate zones several times during the exam, and especially when examining the skin, the pulses and blood circulation, the nurological system and the scheletomuscular apparatus.

Any kind of reaction that differ from a strict norm will be interpreted as symptom of abuse. If the child is very shy or afraid, or if the child does not seem to be shy or afraid at all, both will be used as proof of sexual abuse.

Even though your child is expected to show some shyness, any degree of mistrust against the doctor or the nurse and any degree of physical reistance against the handling of the personal will be interpreted as sign of sexual abuse or other kind of abuse.

When examining the various body regions, the doctor look for any kind of injuries resulted from some physical impact, like blue marks, bruices or sores. All such findings are interpreted as sign of physical abuse, and if found on the intimate region, both of physical and sexual abuse. If there is some other logical explanation for the injuries, that will not be believed - or if believed, twisted in a way to make it an indirect proof or abuse or neglect.

When examining the mouth of your kid, any sign of bad hygiene or distinct caries in the teeth will be interpreted as sign of sexual abuse or neglect of needs. But also a higher degree of oral hygiene than the strict avarege will be interpreted as attempts from the child itself or the parents to wash away symptoms of abuse or bad feeling after abuse.

In the examination of the genitals of a girl, the doctor look specifically for irregularities or injuries at the entrance of the vaginal opening where any finding of irregularities will be interpreted as symptoms of sexual abuse.

When looking at the rectal area the doctor look for any injury. She also especially look for a widened rectal opening, all of which will be interpreted as sign of sexual abuse.

Some doctors will gently press a rounded object, for example a finger, towards the rectal opening. If the anus relaxes and widens reflectorily so that the object slides inside, this is interpreted as a secure proof of sexual abuse.

In other way, any parent or guardian of the child, is suspected of abusing the child already from the onset, and after handling the child, the thought pattern of the health worker nearly guarantees that she has found something she thinks increases the suspicion or are downright proof of abuse.

In spite of this thought pattern, the doctor has been learned to behave in a falsly nice, and polite manner towards the parents and the child, and most doctors manage to do so. The doctors bahavior is therefore often difficult to interprete.

Still all parents are not reported for child abuse, even though a scaring number are reported for fals claims. The reason is simple. The doctor knows that the system does not have the capacity to handle all children she wants to report. Therefore she will try to fill the system to its maximum capacity, but is smart enough not to push further.

Furthermore she knows that too many reports will give her a bad reputation by the parents, which means economic loss. Therefor she will tend to selct those parents or those children that are in a weak and woulnerable position in the society, and report especially those.

By Knut Holt
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- Use carbohydrate sources that contain fibre and that let the carbohydrates be taken up over some time, for example full corn bread and cereals, beans, peas and fresh fruit.

- Eat vegetables and fruit to each meal in order to get enough vitamins, minerals, fibres and anti-oxidants. They should be raw or only gently cooked so that the content of nutrients is not washed out.

- A moderate alcohol consume is good for your blood circulation, especially red wine, but over-drinking has the opposite effect.

- Avoid excessive eating. Eating too much is not good for your blood circulation even though you eat sound food.

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- If you suffer from diabetes, this disease should be well controlled.

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ABOUT DANDRUFF, HOW IT DEVELOPS AND HOW TO CURE IT

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Dandruff consists of an increased production of cells at the outer layers of the skin leading to an extra deposit of dead cells. Dandruff is most often found on the scalp or other arias with thick hair growth. Here you can read more about this process and about the treatment of dandruff.
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To understand how dandruff develops, one must first know a little about the skin structure and physiology.

The skin has 3 layers. The outer layer, the epidermis, consists mostly of flat epithelial cells, that is surface cells. New epithelial cells are produced at the bottom of this layer when cells called keratinocytes divide, and as new cells are made, existing cells are pushed upwards. As they move to the surface, they are gradually filled with the protein keratin so that the outermost cells are mostly dead plates of keratin. This keratin layer is also steadily shed or worn off at the surface.

The layer beneath, the dermis, consists of connective tissue. It contains strong and elastic protein fibers between the cells, and has blood vessels. The lowest layer consists mostly of fat cells.
Hairs grow up from deep pouches in the skin going down through the epidermis, through the dermis and reach the fat layer, the hair follicles. The hair follicles have an inside covered by epidermal cells. High up at one side of the follicle there is a gland, the sebaceous gland, that excrete the oily blending called sebum that lubricates and protects the hairs and the skin.



WHAT IS DANDRUFF


Dandruff is a thickening of the outermost keratin-filled layer of the skin and this extra sheath of dead cells is also blended with fungi that grow in the thick outer layer and with oils produced by the sebaceous glands. This extra sheet is rather loose and it is steadily shed as small flakes that will typically stick to the hairs. The thickening occurs because of an increased production of new cells from the bottom of the epidermis.

Dandruff most often occurs in areas with tight hair growth, like the scalp. Other conditions like sebhorreic dermatitis (eczema) can cause dandruff-like scaling both at the scalp and at other parts of the body. Real dandruff also tend to co-occur with conditions like sebhorreic dermatitis, so that two conditions have to be treated. A symptom often associated with dandruff is redness and itching at skin areas where the outer layers are thickened and shed. The symptoms are partly caused by the dandruff itself and partly by scratching at the skin.



HOW DANDRUFF DEVELOPS

The fungi, especially yeasts, growing at the skin make substances that stimulate the extra growth of epidermal cells, especially the fatty acid oleic acid. The substances penetrate deep into the epidermis where it will stimulate cell proliferation. Also an increased production of oils in the sebaceous glands caused by internal factors seem to increase the growth of the epidermal cells. There may also be an increased susceptibility for these stimulating agents.

The stimulation seems first to cause an allergic inflammatory reaction and this process will in turn make the cells proliferate faster. One ultimate cause of dandruff is therefore factors that make the fungi thrive and grow and a tendency for allergy is another ultimate cause.



HOW TO TREAT DANDRUFF

Dandruff is most often treated with shampoos to loosen the stuff and to hinder new growth of dandruff. Conditioners to put in the hair without washing it away is also used to stop further or new growth of dandruff. The remedies can contain several natural and pharmacological agents that work by different principles.

One principle of dandruff treatment is to make the extra sheet resolve and then wash it away. The ingredients salicylic acid and sulfur are often used in anti-dandruff remedies for that purpose. Coal tar is also a traditional ingredient used for this purpose. In modern remedies tea tree oil is often used as a dissolving agent.

Another treatment principle is to use substances that kill the fungi and make it difficult for the fungi to thrive. Pharmacological anti-fungal ingredients often used is imidazolone or hydroxypyridones like ciclospirox. Extracts from the seeds of the Indian tree neem is a traditional anti-fungal remedy used to treat dandruff.

A third principle is to inhibit the proliferation of cells from the keratinocytes. An ingredient used for this purpose is selenium sulfide and also coal tar has this effect. One also uses anti-inflammatory agents like steroids to hinder the allergic reaction and the extensive proliferation of cells.

One can also try to take away internal factors that make the skin a good environment for the growth of fungi and to stimulate the natural protective mechanisms in the skin. To increase resistance against dandruff lean protein rich food like lean fish and lean meat may work. Fresh fruit, fresh vegetables, fish oil and vitamins of the B-group are also supposed to hinder growth of dandruff. It can also be wise to reduce the consume of milk and milk-based food.

Many natural ingredients used for treatment of dandruff work by several mechanisms. One of this is black pepper that has a traditional use in Indian medicine. Another traditional remedy is egg oil, which is fatty oils extracted from egg yolk.

An old effective natural anti-dandruff-treatment is to wet the hair and the scalp with olive oil, let the oil stay for some time and then wash the hair thoroughly with a mild soap or even better, an egg and soap based shampoo.


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Alien abduction - investigation of memories of alien abduction or similar events

Memories of events that may be interpreted as alien abduction are quite common. Some may be from real abduction by non-human beings coming in strange flying vehicles.

Others may be actions done by governmental agencies or mafias for various purposes that have some of the same type of details.

Often one does not remember the abduction as such, but one remembers only some loose details during some kind of ordeal one has been subjected to.

I have made a poll to investigate these memories. If you have experienced something of the kind, please go to the poll and answar. All the answars will be lain out in the massage forum of the poll to be commented further upon.

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Extended mandatory well-child examination under anesthesia:

In certain areas the health authorities has begun to subject children and teens to extended well-child physicals where one performs several or all of the following procedures: inspections with optical scopes through all or several body openings,ultrasound examinations of most body structures, x-ray taking of joints, EEG and EKG. The kid is often given sedation or even general anesthesia during these extended physicals to make the kid cooperative and to hinder him or her from remembering. Still the kid will remember a lot of details around the procedures and sometimes also from the procedures themselves, because anesthesia never works perfectly, and the kid will always have some symptoms afterwards that tell a lot of what has been done. This poll has the aim of investigating experiences from such ordeals.

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Secret medical exams and procedures under anesthesia:

There is growing indices pointing to a practice of doing secret exams and procedures on both children and adults in addition to the thing they are under anesthesia for. Such ordeals may be done for research, for trainging of medical students, ordered by child protective agencies, ordered by school health service, ordered by police or asked for by parents or relatives. This poll is to find out how common signs of such secret ordeals having been done are. This poll has beenlaunched in several sesseions.

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Called in for a strange physical or psycological exam:

There is growing indices pointing to a practice of doing secret exams and procedures on both children and adults in addition to the thing they are under anesthesia for. Such ordeals may be done for research, for trainging of medical students, ordered by child protective agencies, ordered by school health service, ordered by police or asked for by parents or relatives. This poll is to find out how common signs of such secret ordeals having been done are.

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Girl, 11yo-16yo, Canada, Bi-yearly full body inspection in a Montessori school

I am female. It happened in Canada in 2000-2009, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 years old.

The exam was just announced suddenly at the beginning of the first day. The exam happpene at a room in the school that was preliminary prepared for the event.

All children of the age group in my community and children in my school of the age group and in the kindergarten had the exam.

Those questions didn't quite apply, so let me clarify by telling you the scenario:

It was a montessori school in Canada. I moved there to start 6th grade and had never gone to a school like that before.

The exam was done right in the classroom by assistant nurses and the teachers. The first day of class they just announced out of nowhere they were going to do medical exams and puberty measurements, and we should all take all of our clothing off. All the other kids did it right away without caring, apparently it was something they were used to, but I wasn't, so I was really embarrassed. It took me a long time before I could move, but they asked me again and I realized everyone else was doing it so I'd just go along with it.


ARRANGEMENTS

I had to strip totally naked before the exam. I was placed to lay on my back with steight legs, on my stomach with my legs flexed down and spread, on my right side, on my left side.

I did not get any anesthesia. They laid us down on the beanbag chairs that were in the classroom. We changed positions multiple times as asked, and the examiners mostly kneeled down or sat on stools.


BODY ASSESSMENTS AND MEASUREMENTS

They went over every inch of my skin, head to toe, and touched and felt and checked everything. They pressed my skin to see its texture, they rubbed my abdomen for a long time to feel how my organs were. They listened with their ear directly touching my skin in several places. They used small measuring tapes and rulers to measure every tiny aspect of my body, depth of my vagina, length of my clit.

I was super embarrassed and turned red all over but they said it was nothing to feel bad about. I kept trying to cover myself and they had to move my hands.

I was terrified they were going to make us masturbate or something, like provide a sample. It seemed like they wanted to test every body function, but the only sample they took was they had us all pee in a cup. I saw some boys with erect penises having them measured, but I don't know if the nurses stimulated them or just let it happen on its own.

Months later when I brought it up, and told other students my fears (we had gotten to know each other better) they seemed to feel there would be nothing wrong with it if they did want to masturbate us.


INTERNAL INSPECTIONS

They took specimens from my nose with a tube. They took specimens from my throut with a tube. They took specimens from my urethra with a tube. They used a speculum in my vagina. They took specimens from my vagina with a tube. They took specimens from my anus with a tube. The doctor explored my vagina with a finger. The doctor explored my anus with a finger.


INTERROGATION OF BODY FUNCTIONS, HABITS AND REACTIONS

They also asked a million questions about everything my body does, and since I was new and had no prior records they had to ask me the most. They asked when my pubic hair came in, but also just random things like do I cry sometimes, are my tears coming out fine, do I have too much or too little earwax.


ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM

Some other type of arrangements. We just went on with classes as normal, afterwards. I was shaking and was desperately trying to find my clothes. I noticed half the class didn't even bother putting their clothes back on, some only got half-dressed. Most of the class stayed barefoot and continued that habit in class from then on.


PSYCOLOGICAL EXAMINATION AS FOLLOW-IP

Everyone else just acted like nothing weird happened at all, but the teachers noticed how uncomfortable I was and after class they talked to my parents, and I was signed up for psychological examinations. In those sessions the therapist gently at first, then over time more insistently told me to undress and to get comfortable with it. I went to four more psych sessions that were held totally nude before they decided I was healthy.


ABOUT THE SCHOOL I WENT TO

I went to a Montessori school. It was just a montessori school, they said they prided themselves on doing things differently, giving individual attention, and not worrying about the way other people do things or giving a lot of pointless rules. I could write a whole book on how strange and different it was, including subjects like health, sexual education, and phys ed, but I did get a better education. and it was interesting never getting talked to about how I dressed or if I scratched myself or how I sat or anything.

These full body exams happened for the next 5 years, on the first day of each new school year, and the first day back from winter vacation.

COMMENTS

Montessori schools tend to monitor the bodily and mental development of each kids very detailledly in order to fit the teaching the best ways to rach kid. Since inspections and mesaurements in the pelvic reagion and data one can get by inspections through the pelvic openings tell very much about the development stage, this region is perhaps monitored the most in these schools.

These schools has however some standards for what they concider a normal development, and if these standards are not met, they tend to subject the children for adjustments of various kind, including adjustments with instruments put in through the urethra vagina and anus, special training regimes of itimate kind and external physiological therapies. This account does not tell about these kind of adjustments, but the girl was sent to a psychologist for a more thorrough psychological assessment and possible adjustments of mental and emotional kind.

Since many children were examined at the same time the school probably had apppintments with nurses from some health institution nearby, and the teachers also seemed to have been thought about how to perform the exam. It is possible that the data measured at the exam were used in some scientific project that the society was running and that the school got money from that project.


Knut Holt

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Boy, 12yo, USA, inspection throught the anus and digestive testing

It happenede when I was a 12 year old boy, in USA, in 2010 or later. I was 12 and it happened in a hospital in a small town. They performed an exam or procedure but was not given information about what they did. The procedure happened in a hospital. I'm not really sure I was just told I had to go to the hospital for a procedure, and that I needed to have it done. They said something about fixing a problem I had.

SYMPTOMS AFTER THE PROCEDURE

I had pain irritition or other problems in my mouth, in my respiratory tract or lungs and in my anus or rectum.

My underwear beng messed up or other signs that I had been stripped naked at my lower body. The time till I you regained consciousness was at least twice as long than expected. My parents or others giving hints or remarks about unexpected symptoms or signs.
Strange persons appeared around me before and after the procedure than those you expected to perform the procedure. All I remember is being told I would be asleep for an hour and it took two hours.

ANESTHESIA

I don't really know what they did. I was given medication intravenously. They gave me gas through a mask. They put a mask on me and gave me an injection. My step dad brought me there. I was asleep the whole time.

EXAMINATION WITH EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT

Yeah they did a ct scan and ultrasound of my belly before the procedure but didn't tell me why

INTERNAL INSPECTIONS AND TESTS

I think they did something to my bladder or kidneys or both. After the anesthesia I had a tube and wire up my anus, and they told me it was to monitor the pressure inside me, that was placed during the procedure.

ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE PROCEDURE

Yeah, a couple of ivs. Yeah, I had a breathing tube, they kept it in me for a hour after I woke up. I had catheter, it was just to a bag Yeah I had a tube and wire up my anus they told me it was to monitor the pressure inside me. Heart monitor Yeah they kept listening to my belly

COMMENTS

The boy surely got general anesthesia with paralyzation of all muscles and artificial ventilation during the procedure. It is highly probable they inspected his bladder and the passages up to his kidneys.

They surely inspected his rectum and colon. They also placed a tube with monitoring elctronic to test the function in his colon. That test continued after the anesthesia was out.

Based on the description it also seems that people from the child protective services also were present to look for symptoms of abuse or habits not approved by the society.

It is highly probable that the school or the child protective system ordered the exam after observation that the boy had habits that did not conform to a strict sheme established by paranoid authorities.

Knut Holt

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm

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