"Pinyin" wa "Ch, sh, gh, ng, zh, q, x" larning siri -- Uyghur Latin Yeziqi

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Date Posted: 07/12/01 21:28:49
Author: Waris
Subject: "Pinyin" wa "Ch, sh, gh, ng, zh, q, x" larning siri

From: waris
Date: Sat Nov 18, 2000 3:57 am
Subject: "Pinyin" wa "Ch, sh, gh, ng, zh, q, x" larning siri

�ssalumu �l�ykum tordashlar w� Ray �p�ndim qatarliq "ch", "sh", "zh", "Pinyin" largha kongul b�lg�chil�r,

M�n Zamangh w� yighin qatnashquchilirigha wakalit�n UKY ni mulahiz� qiliwatqat barliq tordashlargha r�hm�t etymon.

"Pinyin Asasidiki Uyghur Yeziqi" dike "Pinyin" deg�n s�z heroism huquqi Pinyin ni k�rs�tm�ydu! Uning bir qalpaq ik�nlikini UKY elipb�sidin bir qarapla k�r�welish mumkin. Qalpaq qish k�nliri beshimizni issiq saqlisa, yaz k�nliri boranning chechimizni uchurup ketishidin saqlaydu, �jdatlirimiz burundinla beshigha bir n�rs� kiyip k�lg�n. "Pinyin" dig�n s�zni Profisur Mijit Xudab�rdi �p�ndi qatarliq pishq�d�ml�r h�diy� qilghan. U s�zning paydisi biz bu yeziqni --UKY h�k�m�tk� sunghanda tigidu. Miningch� k�pchilik �mdi ch�sh�ndi.

UKY= 82%(IPA) + 15%(X�lqning k�ngini) + 3%(X�tning g�z�lliki)

IPA(X�lqaraliq transkripsiy�) --> ... q,sh, x ...
X�lqning k�n�p k�tkini --> j, y, gh, ng, w
Qolyazmining g�z�lliki --> Zh (y�ni qoshma h�rpl�rning "h" bil�n axirlashqan bird�klikini s�qlash)

Ch --> qolsh h�rp bopqalghini bil�n nurghun tillarda h�m IPA dimu [ʧ]("ch") d�p t�lappuz qilinidu. Biz k�pchilik(bolupmu Ray �pandim) otturgha qoyghan pikirni birinchi h�m ikkinchi qetimliq yighinda otturgha qoyghan. "C" h�rpining qisqa bolusht�k artuqchiliqini nurghun kishil�r yaxshi k�rg�n bolsimu, lekin "C" IPA da [ʤ]("j"), tining oxshimasliqigha qarap [ʧ],[k],[s],[ʁ]... deg�nd�k qilinghachqa, omumiy principning oqushqa h�m IPA g� uyghun bolush deg�n maddisigha asas�n, y�nila "ch" tallandi. Bundaq qilghanda uyghurch� uqmaydighan mutlaq k�p sandiki kishil�rmu uyghurch� oquyalaydik�n d�p bikitilg�n. "Ch" X�nzuch�, Inglizch�, Uzbekch�, Kurdch�, �z�rb�yjnach� ... dimu [ʧ] d�p oqilidu. Buni 10 n�chch� tilshunas birlikt� k�p mulahiz� qilghan.

Sh --> Qoshma h�rp, IPA da h�m nurghn tillarda [ʃ]("sh") d�p t�l�ppuz qilinidu. Tilshunaslar "sh" ni "x" d�p elishnimu "ch" ni "c" d�p elishqa oxshash nurghun muzakir� qilinghan.

Sh(Sham)--> X(Xam)
X(Xoraz)--> H(Horaz)
H(Halal)--> ? (�g�r "h" ni ishl�ts�k tilshunasliq qa'idisidiki "bir fonimagha bir h�rip" prinsipigha ch�shm�ydu...)

Lekin axirida tilshunaslar y�nila "sh" ni tallindi.

Gh, ng --> X�lq k�n�p k�tk�n

Zh--> Bu h�rp Uyghur tilida intayin az ishlitilg�chk�(b�sh alt� orundila) h�m "z" bil�n "h" ning arqimu arqa kelish pursiti yoq diy�rlik(�z'hal din bashqa, �g�r y�n� k�pchilik bayqighan bolsa �w�rtip b�rs�) bolghachqa x�tning g�z�lliki("h" bil�n axirlashturush) k�zd� tutulup, "Dj", "Zj","vj", " j " larni qollinish mywapiq d�p qaralmidi.

Q--> X�lqarada omumiyliship bolghan h�m uyghurlarning �ng chong tor bikiti http://www.makanim.com mu alliburun omomiylashturup bolghan. Masil�n: Iraq, Quran ...
X--> G�rch� Uyghur x�lqi arisida k�ng omumiylashqan bosimu, lekin IPA gha uyghun k�lm�slik, uyghurlar x�nzulardin bashqilar "x" ni "sh" d�p t�l�ppuz qilishqa k�n�lmig�chk�, tilshunaslar t�ripidin "Xoraz" diki "x" �ch�n taliwelindi.

Uyghur-->Bu atalghu yighinda birlikk� kelip boghan!!! H�m yighinda bundin keyin "Uighur", "Uygur", "Uigur", "Weiwuerzu" dig�nd�k yezilsa imla xataliqi d�p alahid� k�rsitilg�n.
�nggiliy�likl�r jahilliq qilip Oxford lughitid� "Uighur" d�p yazghan bosimu, Amerika qatarliq d�l�tl�r Uyghurlar gha h�rm�t qilip "Uyghur" d�p yazghan. Buni Amerikada uqup k�lg�n tilshunas Doktur X�mit Zakir �p�ndi alahid� t�kitlig�n. Oxford lughitinimu �zg�rtidighanlar chiqip qalar ...
Shunga Alimjan qatarliq "Uighur" ning yaqlighuchilirining tilshunaslargha h�m yighinning qararigha h�rm�t qilishini s�mimiy t�l�p qilim�n.

Rey �p�ndim, sizning "Zh" ni " j ", "Zj" gha �zg�rtish pikiringiz burunla tilshunaslar t�ripidin r�t qilinghan. Miningch� "J" q�t'iy mukin �m�s, lekin "Z" ning arqisidin "h" kilidighan s�zl�r k�p chiqip qalsa, "Zj" ni qayta qarap chiqishqa sunushqa bolidu. Buning �ch�n siz "z" ning arqisidin "h" kilidighan s�zl�rdin k�pr�k tepip birishingizni soraym�n. M�n Shinjang Uniwersititigha wakal�t�n bu pikirni qayta sunup baqsam solidu.
Sizning q�lqara birlikl�r toghrisidiki pikiringiz xeli orunluqk�n. Qarisam siz xeli chongqur izliniwetipsiz. Shunga q�lqara birlikl�r t�r�ptin y�nimu eniqraq pikir b�rsingz. "c", "v" larni "ch","W" lar �ch�n ishl�tm�y ch�ttin kirg�n s�zl�rg� ishl�ts�k qandaq bolar? chunki cm/sec ni chm/sech yaki chm/sec d�p oqughili bolmaydu. "v" nimu xeli yaxshi oylishipsiz.

Biz "C" ni bird�m [s], bird�m "ch" d�p oqusaq kishil�rni qaymuqturup qoyimiz. Shunga "ch" ni "c" gha �zg�rtm�y, uni ch�ttin kirg�t atalghulargha ishlitish yaki ishl�tm�slikni oylashsaq.

Biz KUY ni xeli t�st� mushunchilik birlikk� k�lt�rduq. Buninga 10 n�chch� ataqliq tilshunas qatnashqan. Nurghun kishil�r "Bu uyghurlarning tunji qetim birlikk� kelishi ..." d�p qaridi.
Shunga k�pchilikning �shu 10 n�chch� tilshunasning pikirig� h�rm�t qilishini, tilshunasliq sah�sidin izlinip pikir birishini soraymiz...

Miningch� "Ch, gh, ng, sh, q, x" larni �mdi qayta oylashmishaq, "Zh" gha m�n dig�n boyich� oylashsaq qandaq?

Ch�nki bundaq qiliw�rs�k birlikimiz buzulup k�tmisun, x�lqnimu qaymuqturmayli. Birlikk� kelip 3 k�n ichid� bazi kishil�r UKY-1, UKY-2 deg�nd� "Birlik" l�rni chiqirip boptu. http://www.uighursoft.com/Uyghurqe/index.htm g� qarang.

"h" ni "c" dis�, "q" ni "Kh" dis� ... Bular q�y�rdiki tilshunasning qa'idisig� ch�shidu? Kiml�r birlikk� k�lt�rg�n!? D�l shu kishi 14 - dikabir m�n (Waris Abdukerim) ning yenida olturup "Yengi UKY layih�sig� qoshulim�n ..." d�p xeli yuquri awazda warqirighan!!! Uighursoft sherkitining derictory bolghan bu kishi (Alim �h�t) ning yeghin xulasisining pikir d�ptirig� yezilghan birdinbir pikiri " Elipb� t�rtipi kona yeziq t�rtipi boyich� bolsun."(Imzasi h�m pikiri Kona yeziqta yezilghan) idi. Bu qandaq w�d�?! Bu qandaq birlik!!!???

�mdi m�rkizi m�sil� y�nila UKY ning elipb� t�rtipi bil�n "c", "w" larni ch�ttin kirg�n s�zl�rg�, birlikl�rg� ishlitish yaki ishl�tm�slikk� y�tk�ls� qand�q?

Zaman Research Group
Xinjiang University
Urumqi, China
Email: waris@xju.edu.cn
http://www.zaman.xju.edu.cn
Tel:86-991-2862753-5234(O),5146(H)

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