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Date Posted: 07/18/01 19:10:29
Author: Alim Ahat, Abdireyim, Anwar, Uyghur...
Subject: Unicode, Language ID, Kona yeziq....(Feb. 2000)

Note Nr.: 371 from 2001-02-14 20:17:46
by Alim Ahat
email: alim@uighursoft.com
url: http://www.uighursoft.com

yahximu siler:
Microsoft xirkitining tor betige kirip, search kha "Uighur" digen sozni kirguzsingiz, Uighurqe yumxak detallargha ayit uqurlarni koreleysiz, yeni Microsoft Windowsda Uighurqe kona yezikka, Language ID berilidi, dimek kona yezik Windows khimu az wakit kaldi.

http://www.unicode.org ni korsingiz, 4-ayning 25-kuni HongKong da eqilidighan UNICODE olqemlaxturux yighininh tapsilatini bilalaysiz.

---Alim Ahat

Note Nr.: 372 from 2001-02-15 13:52:16
by Abdireyim
email: rey_u@hotmail.com
url: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/usse

Salam!
Yahxi ucur iken, dimek kelguside Uyghur Kona Yeziqi bilen internette ucurlixalaydikenmiz we u yeziq bilen yezilghan betlerni koreleydikenmiz.
Note Nr.: 373 from 2001-02-15 15:19:11
by Alim Ahat
email: alim@uighursoft.com
url: http://www.uighursoft.com

xundak, dimek aldirmay tursak, hiq bolmighanda bir yil saklap turalisak, Microsoft Windows(Uighur support yeni kona yezikti Windows)qikkandin keyin, Uighurqe uqur almaxturux nahayiti kolaylik bolidu. xunga bu putun Uighurlar uqun qong hox hewer.

Note Nr.: 374 from 2001-02-16 09:47:22
by enwer emer
email: no email
url: no homepage

Yahximu seler!
Note 371 diki hewer hergizmu yahxilikning bixariti emes! biz dunyagha yuzlinimiz deydikenmiz ammiwilikni oylixix bilen birge qukum aldi bilen ilmiylikni oylixiximiz lazim.baxka musulman doletlirigimu karap bekinglar ular yezik jehette kandak islahatlarni kildikin! biz nimixka kona yezikka unqiwala esiliwalimiz! baxka doletlerni dimeyli:Indinoziyz,malaysa,phillipin...katarlik doletlermu kona erep yezikini taxlap latin yeziki ixlitiwatmamdu?!! seler nemixka he disila kona yezikni texwik kilisiler!selerde yengilinix idiyisi yokmu!

Note Nr.: 375 from 2001-02-16 12:26:32
by Alim Ahat
email: alim@uighursoft.com
url: http://www.uighursoft.com

(Note: 374 ge jawap)
Yahximu siz enwer:
hazir kop sandiki Uighurlar yenila kona yezikni ixlitiwatkan bu peyitte, Microsoftning Uighurlar uqun kona yeziktiki Windows ni ixlapqikirixi, elwette biz Uighurlar uqun kop kolayliklarni elip kelidu, xunga buni men hox hewer digen idim. belkim, siz uqun bu xum hewer boluxi mumkin. lekin axu kona yezikni hazirmu ixlitiwatkan Uighurlar uqun zor hox-hewer elwette!!!

iligir men Uighursoftning meydenini enik quxandurgan yeni: Uighursoftning yezik ixidiki talax-tartixka arlaxmaydu, peket Uighurlar kaysi yezikni tallap ixlatsa, xu yezik uqun yumxak detal tuzidu, xundakla Microsoft tek qong xirketlarning Uighurlar uqun yumxak detal tuzuxini tolimu arzu kilidu, xunga hayajanlip, men uqun bu hox-hewerni, tehimu kop kixilerge bildurux uqun hox hewer dep GUESTBOOK da elan kildim, uningdin baxka maksidim yok.

Enwer apandim:
Microsoftning Uighurlar uqun yumxak detal tuzuxi uqun toskunluk kilip koymang yene(hargizmu ulargha E-mail selip koymang)

Note Nr.: 376 from 2001-02-19 12:11:15
by Uighur Dadam
email: uighurdadam@yahoo.com
url: no homepage

anwer apandim:(Note: 374 ni korgendin keyin)
Eger siz ammiwilikni oylaxmay peket ilmiylik boyiqila ix kilsingiz, nimixka Uighur tilini etkes kilip, Engliz tiligha kocmeysiz? Ilmiylik jehetdin Engliz tili Uighur tilidin kop terekki kilip ketti, xunga sizningce biz Engliz tiligha kociximiz kerekmu? Eger emme ixta ilmiylik boyicila bolidighan bolsa emme millet ozining yezighi we tilini ozgertetti. Emme yezik we til ilmiylik jeettdin mukemmel emes. Mesilen: Engliz tilida bir tawuxka bir erip toghra kelmeydu, we bir eripning kop hil okulixi digedek kop kalaymikanciliklar bar, lekin ular yenila xu boyice ixlitiwatmamdu?

xunga bundak qong ixta, ammiwilikni oylax intayin muyim. oz pikrini hammaylanning pikiri dep mejburi tengixka bolmaydu.

Amerka Microsoft xirkiti uyghurlar uqun, yumxak detal ixlep berimen dise, "bu biz uqun xum hewer, hazir bizning Uighur yezikimiz tehi enik amas disek bolamdu???" baxkilar bizni tehiqe oz yeziki yok milletken dimemdu???

Anwer: siz nime uqun axu kona yezikni ixlitiwatkan (yengi yezikni bilmeydighan) Uighurlarni oylapmu koymaysiz? ular komputer bilen het yazalaydighan bolsa, komputerdin tehimu yahxi paydilinay dise, nime uqun sizge nisbeten bu xum hewer bolidu???

Note Nr.: 377 from 2001-02-19 18:23:53
by yasin
email: yasin@163.net
url: no homepage

Alim sizning MicroSoft xirkitining Uighur kona yeziqigha ID barganliki bilan ularning uighurca kona yeziq sistemini ixlaxka az qalghanliq toghrisidiki pikirliringizni kurup kok hoxal boldum. bu rastinla bir hoxallinarliq ix boluptu.. bu habar rastmu? ular ISO diki layihani ixlitiptimu? agar bu toghriliq bilidighiningiz bolsa azraq bayan qilip barghan bolsingiz?

Note Nr.: 378 from 2001-02-20 08:09:16
by Alim Ahat
email: alim@uighursoft.com
url: http://www.uighursoft.com

Yasin:
Microsoft xirkiti Uighur kona yezikigha Language ID beriptu, sizmu bilisiz hazir Windows'2000 din baxlap Windowsda UNICODE ni kolliniwatidu, xunga ular elwette ISO diki layihelarni putunley ixlitixix natayin, xunga, ular 4-ayning 25-kunidin 28-kunigiqe HongKong da muxu uxlar toghurluk 18-nowetlik UNICODE yighinini aqmakqi. nawada, xu yighinda Uighur kona yeziki UNICODE olqimige kirsa, andin Uighurqe Windows tehimu tez bazargha selinidu, xunga barlik umut yenila xu yighinda kaldi. silerning til-yezik komitetidin bu yighingha mutahasisler baramdu??

bu yighinga kiziksingiz:
http://www.unicode.org ni ziyaret kiling.

Note Nr.: 379 from 2001-02-20 15:15:56
by enwer emer
email: no email
url: no homepage

Uighurdadamgha:( Note 376 ni kurup)
Men sizning Note 376 de digenliringizni korup ciqtim,"ilmiylik jehette Engilis tili uyghur tilidin kop tereqqi qilip ketti,xunga sizningce biz Engilis tiligha kuciximiz kerekmu?"... qatarliq birmunce nersilerni sozlep kitipsiz.meningce siz mening diginimni taza angqiralmay qalghan ohxaysiz.men "Tilni" ozgertimiz diginim yoq,peqet hazir biz qolliniliwatqan,likin bizge nep bermaywatkan kona yeziqni yengi yeziqqa almaxtursaq didim.xunga aldi bilen sizning mening nime dawatkanlikimni obdan cuxunixingizni,andin pikir bayan qilixingizni omut qilimen.siz biz yaxawatkan mohitning kundin-kunge tariyip kitiwatkanlighini segeklik bilen bilixingizni,ammiwiliqni depla tehi oyghanmighan ammini we kiyinki ewlatlarni toyuq yolgha baxlap qoymasliqingizni semimi omut qilix bilen birge,etirapingizdiki xeyilerning ozgurux qanuniyetlirini koprek tetqiq qilixingizni,baxqa milletlerning: mesilen Indinoziye(musulman),Malaysiya(musulman),Phillipin(musulman)we ottura Asiyadiki baxqa doletlerning yeziq mesilisini qandak hel qilghanliki toghrisidiki bilimlerdin az tola hewerdar bolup qoyixingizni soraymen.
"America Microsoft xerkiti uyhurlar ucun yumxaq detal yasap berimen" digen bu jumlini siz toghra cuxunixingiz kerek idi.yeni ularning nimini oylap xundak qiliwatkanliqini bilixingiz kerek.bizde birer nersige bolghan qimmet qarixi bolixi lazim.baxqilar sizge bir nersini bikargha birermu? siz ismingizni nimixqa "Uighurdadam" dep qoyiwalghansiz? bu sozni demek manga bekla tes keldi.sizning kimlerni kozde tutiwatqanliqingizni bilmidim.meningce hazir A,B,C,D,...ni bilmeydighanlar(compyeterni ixletmekci bolghanlar icide) az bosa kerek.

Note Nr.: 380 from 2001-02-22 09:50:51
by Abdireyim
email: rey_u@hotmail.com
url: no homepage

Salam Alim Ahat,
(Note:371)
Men "Microsoft.com" din siz digendek izdex qilip baqtim. Netijidin aran 4 bar.
Uyghurgha berilgen ID bolsa Uyghur tiligha berigenken(language ID), yeziqqa(script) berilmeptu uningdin qandaqsigha biz " Microsoft Windowsda Uighurqe kona yezikka, Language ID berilidi" digen yekun ciqarghili bolidu? Men hatalaxqan bolsam cuxendurux bersingiz, rehmet.

Belkim tilgha ID berilgendin keyin tebii halda kona yeziqqa berilgen dep yekun ciqirilghan boluxi mumkin(kona yeziq qanunluq yeziq bolghanlighi ucun). Microsoft Uyghur yeziqini(scriptni) qollixigha ucun nahayiti uzaq yillar ketixi mumkin buni birnime diyix tes.
Aman bolung

Note Nr.: 381 from 2001-02-22 14:03:04
by Alim Ahat
email: alim@uighursoft.com
url: http://www.uighursoft.com

Salam sizge Abdureyim (Note: 380 ge jawap)
1999-yili 9-ayda ISO yighinide Uighurlar uqun Language ID berilip rasmiy elan kilghan idi(yeni Language ID: Uighur ISO 639-2), hamde kona yezik heriplermu muwapik orunlaxturulghan idi. Xuningdin keyin UNICODE Standard 3.0 dimu Uighurlarning yeziki Arabiy yeziki asasidiki yezik dep etirap kilip, Arablerning yeziki orunlaxturulghan rayunlargha Uighurqe, Kazakqe, Kirghizqe yeziklarnimu orunlaxturup boldi. lekin(Mesilan: Uighurqidiki "NG" heripining UNICODE bolsa 06AD, Urumqidiki "U" ning UNICODE bolsa 06C8).

Bularni bu yil 4-ayning 25-28 kunliri HongKong da eqilidighan 18-nowetlik UNICODE yighinide rasmiy elan kilmakqi boluwatidu(yeni UNICODE 3.0).

nawada 4-ayda UNICODE 3.0 elan kilinsa, Microsoft Uighurqe Windows ni yasimaydu digendimu, uning FONT ni yasap, Windowska kirguzuxka majburi bolidu(Bu huddi Farisqe Windowsni yasimay, Windows'2000 de Parisqe FONT larni taminligenge ohxaydu), Arabiqe Windowsni yasap bakkan Microsoft uqun, Uighurlarning bir neqqe hariplirini kuxup kuyuxular uqun, bir neqqe kunlukla ix.
nawada siz bulargha tehimu kiziksingiz, Internettin ISO 639-2, ISO Uighur, digendeklarni izdepmu baksingiz bolidu,
sizningmu salamt boluxingizni umut kilimen.
---Alim Ahat

Note Nr.: 382 from 2001-02-23 12:13:26
by Abdireyim
email: rey_u@hotmail.com
url: no homepage

(note:381 ge jawap),
Salam Alim Ahat
Yahximu siz!
Erinmay unicode toghurluq cuxence berginingizge kop rehmet.
Bu qetim yeni 2001.4.25-28(Unicode.org) diki yighinda Uyghur yeziqi toghrisidiki lahiyeni(lahiye sunulsa) unicode.org testiqlixini hec bolmisa muzakir(under investigation) halitige qoyuxini umit qilimen.
Eslide burunqi lahiyeni 96 yilila Unicode.org inkar qilghan iken(koxumcini korung),
Bu qetimqi yighinni kutux ucun 5 yilgha yeqin waqit ketiptu. Eger yene inkar qilsa yene qancilik waqit kutermiz? Jawap belkim 4.25-28 kunlirige qaldi.

Aman bolung,

(koxumce)"Characters and Scripts Under Investigation or Rejected(Unicode.org)"
Additional Arabic presentation forms for Uighur, Kazakh, and Kirghiz in 96-Dec-06 were Rejected.
Note Nr.: 384 from 2001-02-23 18:32:06
by Alim Ahat
email: alim@uighursoft.com
url: http://www.uighursoft.com

(Note 382 ge jawap)
Salam sizge Abdureyim:
wa barlik tordaxlar:
silerning Unicode toghurluk su'al surighanlighinglargha kop rehmet!

Alahide hox-hewer!

Uighurqe kona yezik Unicode3.0 olqimige kirdi, tapsilatni bilmekqi bolsingiz, towendiki besing.

UNICODE 3.0(Arabic, Uighur, Kazak, Kirghiz)Standard

Note Nr.: 385 from 2001-02-26 12:00:59
by Abdireyim
email: rey_u@hotmail.com
url: no homepage

(note:384 jawap)
Salam Alim Ahat,
Bu nahayiti yahxi hewerken. Emdi Uyghurlar yeziqini ozgertip yurmeydu xundaqla yeziq ozgertixke urunuxqa hatime berix mumkin. Yeziqni ozgertix bu ecinixliq ix. Lekin bundaq digenlik yengi yeziqni yoqqa ciqirix emes. Uni bir qoxumce yeziq supitide saqlap qelix(huddi Pinyin gha ohxax). Ixinimen yengi yeziqmu ozining koxumce rolini dawamliq jari qildurup mangidu bumu bizning baylighimiz we artuqcilighimiz.

Sayahitingizge amanliq tilep.
Note Nr.: 386 from 2001-02-26 12:33:43
by Alim Ahat
email: alim@uighursoft.com
url: http://www.uighursoft.com

(Note: 385 ge jawap)
Salam Abdireyim:
taklip berginingiz uqun kop rehmet, nahayiti togra eytipsiz.
biz kona yeziktin aldirap waz keqelmeymiz, lekin yengi yezikning otturgha kuyuluxi tarakkiyatning mukarrar yuzlinixi, Tilimizni yengi yezik bilen ipadiliyeliximiz, tilimizdiki bir artukqilik. xunga, siz eytkandek bumu bir baylikimiz.
xunga ikki yezikni teng kolliniximiz, tamamen mumkin(ikki yezikni oz-ara uruxka saldurup koymisakla, biz nurghun awarqiliklardin kutulalaymiz)
sizge amanlik tileymen.

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