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Date Posted: 07/12/01 22:46:55
Author: Waris
Subject: Pinyinda sh,ch larmu bar, ular pinyin bilen toqunushmaydu!

From: waris
Date: Tue Jan 2, 2001 12:09 pm
Subject: Pinyinda sh,ch larmu bar, ular pinyin bilen toqunushmaydu!


Western Europe(ISO) bilen enkodlang, Birlikke kelgen UKY da yezildi.



Essalamu eleykum tordashlar,





Erdem ependining pikiri nahayitimu orunluq. UKY omumiy prinsiptiki töt türning yughurulmisi. Miningche UKY ni texi toluq chüshenmigenler uninggha yaxshiraq qarap baqsun. Omumiy prinsiptiki “26 latin herpliri bilenla ipadilesh.” Dëgen türge 3-qetimliq yighinda “latin herpliri bilenla ipadilesh.” Dep özgertish kirgüzülülgen.



Yighingha qatnashquchilarmu “Nan qëpi” emes! Yighingha qatnashqan 20 din artuq kishiler siler otturgha qoyghan mesililerning hemmisini digüdek otturgha qoyghan, nurghun pikirlerge qarap chiqqan. Ular yighingha qatnishalmighan nurghun kishilerdin köp toghra pikir qilghan. Eger bu yerde munazire qiliwatqan bezi kishilirimiz yighinda bolghan bolsa, bezi geplerni qilishtin xijil bolup qalghan bolatti, eng axirida UKY ghimu qayil bolatti. Buni Erdem ependimmu dep ötken. (Esinglarda bolsun biz ulargha 15 xilgha yeqin oxshash bolmighan kompiyuter Uyghur yeziqlirini körsetken…)



Silerningche tilshunaslirimiz, mutexesislirimiz xelqaraliqni oylap, xelqni oylimighanmidu?! Yaq ular oylighan, ular siler hem bizlerdin xeli yiraqni körgen. Ularni yighip yighin achmighan bosaq belkim hemmisi eGroup tikidek her xil pikirler hemme yerde chiqqan bolatti…



Yighin qatnashquchilirini qayta yighqan teqdirdimu UKY diki burunqi Ee ni Ee gha, Ee ni Ëë gha özgertishtin bashqa netije chiqmaydu. Shunga bundaq qilghanning anche ehmiyiti yoq. Ulardin buninggha qarita tëlifunda pikir ëlip bolay dep qalduq.



Pinyin gha yeqinlashturimiz desekmu “ch, sh” larni qoshushqa toghra kilidighu? Ular pinyinda barghu? Nurghun pinyinni bilidighan Uyghurlar Engliz tili, Nimis tili, Ros tili, Türk tili, Yapon tili … üginishi jeryanida u tillarning yeziqlirini Pinyin bilen toqunishidiken dep baqmighan. Hem xelqimizmu x bilen h ni bir qilip yezip baqmighan. H ni V,hh,h, … qilip ipadileshning mukin emesliki köpchilikke belkim ayan bolghandu.



Pinyin wehshilerche asas qilinghan burunqi yengi yeziqimizning(1983-yighiche ishlitilgen) nimishqa emeldin qaldurulghanliqini oylap beqinglar. Uni yene asas qalimiz disek “zh,ch,sh” larnimu qoshup, yingi herp yasap herpimizni 35 qilamduq? Xinjiang, Shanghai, Zhou Rongji, Qingdao, Chongqing … dep yazamduq? Yaki Pinyinini emes xenzuchisini yazamduq? Nimishqa Shinjang, Shanghei, Ju Rongji, Chingdaw, Chongching … dep yazmaymiz?!



2000-yili 10-ayning 31-küni 9-nöwetlik memliketlik xelq qurultiyi daimi komitit ezaliri yighinining 18—qetimliq yeghinida “Jungxua (Zhonghua emes) xelq jumhuriyitining omumiyüzlük ishlitidighan til-yeziq qanuni” maqullandi. Bu qanunning 8-maddisida yene “her qandaq milletning öz til-yëziqini ishlitish we tereqqiy qildurush huquqi bar” dep belgilengen. Partiye, hükümet az sanliq milletlernimu oyliship, ghemxorluq qilip, hörmet qilip mushundaq qanun chiqirip biriwatsa biz yene nimishqa öz abroyimizni qilmaymiz?! Nimidep Pinyingha shunche ching chaplishiwalimiz? Ömride 3 xildin artuq Uyghur yeziqini ishlitish tarixini ötküzgen, pütün ömrini Uyghur tili tetqiqatigha serp qilghan Ibrahim Muti dek alimlirimizmu bu yeziqni qollap xelqaragha yüzlininglar didighu?! Ular nimishqa pinyinni asas qilinglar demeydu!? Miningche ular burnining uchidin jiq yiraqni körgen. Ularmu xelqni oylighan.



Mininge UKY bilen Pinyin toqunishidu dep qarash, Firansuzche diki J bilen Pinyin diki J toqunishidu digendekla exmeqliq…





Öz ara ishinisheyli, chüshinishely!


aman bolunglar



Waris Abdukerim

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