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Date Posted: 16:13:22 05/08/01 Tue
Author: Lyn
Subject: Re: Revelations Bob gave to his church that were not of God
In reply to: Lyn 's message, "Re: Revelations Bob gave to his church that were not of God" on 10:17:55 05/08/01 Tue

>>>In his c section of his revelations given to his
>>>church . Sec 194;3e If I give a dream, vision,or
>>>gift,it is for that person along. This is God
>speaking
>>>to his church.Now let us read D&C sec 46:5a,b And
>>>again,I say unto you,I would that ye should always
>>>remember,and always retain in your mind what those
>>>gifts are, that are given to the church,for all have
>>>not every gift given unto them. Now lets go down to
>>>(C) to some it is given one, and to some is given
>>>another,that (ALL) may be propheted thereby.Now in
>his
>>>first revelation to his church sec;1 it says by him
>>>that the lord has shown me many future events through
>>>spiritual dreams.This has often been the means of
>>>showing me the spiritual deterioration and secret
>sins
>>>of certain individuals,On his tape 9-16-84 he also
>>>says that the lord direct people in there lives by
>and
>>>through these gifts from us to others.Lehi had a
>dream
>>>vision of the tree of life .Was this dream for him
>>>along.Are is it not also for us this day? Daniel the
>>>prophet had many dreams were they for him along ?Are
>>>they not for us today as well? this revelation sec
>194
>>>he gave to his church was not of God for it is
>>>contrery to the word of God.And is also contrery to
>>>his own revelation as well as his tapes.If this
>church
>>>pays for the putting of false doctron out they will
>>>take the same punishment that is reserved to those
>>>that give it.Now let us read your sec:10;4e If you do
>>>not repent in the little time that is still allotted
>>>to you, you must suffer the same punishment that are
>>>reserved for those who have deceived you, and who
>will
>>>refuse to repent,As it is also given in the
>scriptures
>>>Deuteronomy 13;chapter it was not the lord that
>>>deceived you but because you no not his words
>>>Becareful not to leave revelation in your c section
>>>that are contrery one to the other.Remember it is
>also
>>>written that the saints in Zion will judge those that
>>>say they are prophets and apostles and are not.If you
>>>have one in your pristhood stand and say that this
>>>revelation was of God . And then stand and say the
>one
>>>given that is contrery to it is also of God ,then he
>>>is not being lead by the spirit of God but by his own
>>>wisdom is he lead.Lyn
>> Another one that is contrery. His c;section 8:4d
>>As I say now to all who will hear My voice this
>>day,the organised church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day
>>Saints will soon be reclaimed by My Son. Now if he
>>just said that he will reclaim his church and this
>>revelation was voted on by the church to except it as
>>the word of God and had priesthood stand and say it
>>was the will of God .Why then did he tell you to start
>>a new church in sec;c;21 for the last time.Is that not
>>contrery to the other.Now to show you it was also
>>given to the prophet Joseph Smith let us read D&C sec
>>105;12a and your leaders is the power of this
>>priesthood given,for the last days and for the last
>>time,in the wHich is the dispensation of the fulness
>>of time. Now I ask you a question did God forget he
>>told Joseph for the last time are could it be that God
>>never said to start a new church .Many people are lost
>>to the kingdom for the like of knowledge Be careful
>>you to are not lost when you stand before God.Remember
>>put not your trust in the arm of flesh.For flesh only
>>caires for itself not the creator of it.Lyn
> Now let us go to his D&C 201;20k And all
>revelations addressed to the church is given only
>though the prophet.Now out of his own revelations to
>his church let us see how many time the lord gave to
>thie church that that did not come from him. Let us
>now go to his D&C sec;c;4;5a,b The spirit of
>revelation,even councle to the church,has been removed
>from (THOSE) that were entrusted with it,yet it
>remains with (MANY) who are indeavoring to keep My
>commandments. C;42;4c,e They forget that I left My
>especial witnesses to utter My voice. (e) Do you not
>remember that they and (OTHERS) were chosen to be My
>voice.C;50;11;c,d I have granted to My servants of all
>ages whom I have placed among the people to speak My
>words,to be My voice and to command. C;4:4d All
>spiritual guidance,councle,and blessings will come
>from and through only those servants who have not
>bowed to Baal, c:34;4c And (THEY the 12) have the full
>authority to move out and though the spirit of
>(REVALATION) call ordain,and to send forth all
>offices. Remember in Luke Christ said the first office
>of My church is Apostles,then prophets not the other
>way around .c:52;21,e,f for those counselors are also
>prophets (F) They both have the gift of
>prophecy.c;34;5a the Bishope of Zion has the authority
>to call priesthood,through the power of (REVEALATION)
>C;5;7,b,c thouse things that are spoken of by My
>faithful servants ,(C) they speak under the direction
>of My spirit are accounted as (SCRIPTURES) and shall
>be recorded forever. One of the guifts of the spirit
>is prophecy is it fot the prophet only are is it not
>written in the last days your sons and daughters will
>prophecy unto you? And what is it that one speakes
>under this guift if not Gods will for the church.For
>revealation is given by the power of the Holy Ghost.
>And did we not all receive this gift in the waters of
>baptisem? This is not a true revealation that he gave
>.For in 2petter the lord even used an ass to speak his
>word. And here to is a hidden mystery in the words
>just spoken.Lyn And in his c;section C;7;4d You are that Moses I have prepaired to lead My people in these last days. Now to show you that that revealation did not come from God let use now go to (3Nephi ;9;60) This is Christ speaking to the Nephits ( I am he whom Moses spake,saying A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto your brethren,like unto me. Now let use go to (1 Nephi 7;46) And now ,I Nephi ,declare unto you,that this prophet of whom Moses spake,was the Holy One of Israel. So if the scriptures lie not then what thank you .Lyn

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