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Date Posted: 10:55:54 07/18/00 Tue
Author: SwimmingUpstream
Subject: Re: IMAGINATION AND TYRANNIES
In reply to: Jonathan Gulson 's message, "Re: IMAGINATION AND TYRANNIES" on 10:52:14 07/18/00 Tue

Dear Jonathan,

Is concept therefore a formation of external objects not present in perceptive sense. Awareness.

Substitute "intellectual" for "external".

If this is concept, it sounds like imagination. How do you differentiate between imagination and concept.

Imagination is the generator -- concept a species of what is generated by imagination.

Do perceptual and conceptual thought interact to make reality?

I am not clear what it is you mean when you use the word "reality" in this context.

Do ideas only exist within conceptual boundaries?

I have only myself to blame for this question -- because I used the vague word "idea" in the beginning.

There are many things that we lump under the word "idea" -- percept, concept, hypothesis, generalities,
categories, universalities, etc.etc.etc.

A percept -- that by which we know a perceived object -- is not knowable to us. Aquinas suggested this, and I think
he was correct. (He referred to percept as "phantasm" in the copy of Summa Theologica that I have.)

So, I'd say concepts only exist within conceptual boundaries.

Is detox achieved in a purification of language or an expression of new ideas.

I'd say by the escape from confining language, from confining means of communicating experience, and from
confining ideas.

Should we increase tension: between two opposites does a third appear. Thesis and counter-thesis, as Hegel had
it

I think Hegel was in the main incorrect -- a third does not appear. Dialectic can be attacked on logical grounds -- I'll
try to find a condensation of an attack I made on it a while ago, and post it. Binkie doesn't like long posts...

Anyway, I think tension develops as the result of the interplay of all sorts of social forces, and trying to increase it or
decrease by explicit action is as achievable as getting a huge jellyfish to change direction by prodding it with a very
sharp stick. If this is true, then what we can do is move towards one of the poles -- sort of make a move towards a
Right Mean, ala Aristotle.

Kindest Regards

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Re: IMAGINATION AND TYRANNIES -- SwimmingUpstream, 10:57:21 07/18/00 Tue