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Date Posted: 11:49:50 11/19/03 Wed
Author: wwolfe
Author Host/IP: 161.149.63.106
Subject: Re: Grim's stoopid question of the day.
In reply to: Grim ,_,_) 's message, "Grim's stoopid question of the day." on 09:49:35 11/19/03 Wed

Good question. Let's see how well I can follow this thread.

Oz: Unless Oz could have found a way to control his Inner Werewolf, I don't think he would have agreed to return to Willow, out of a concern for her safety. Since this plot development depended upon Seth Green's willingness to return to the show in at least a recurring role, I don't think this ever would have happened.

Tara: I never believed Willow was gay, so the absence of Tara would have removed a character development that was never convincing to me. In addition, I found Tara both as written and as played to be a colorless, uninteresting character. For these reasons, I would have been OK with her not having been added to the show.

Willow: See above, re: whether Willow would have been gay. I think the plot line of Willow becoming caught up in the power of her magic was one of the most promising that was ever on the show, and I see no reason why this couldn't have been pursued just as easily without Tara. Absent Tara, and her murder, it wouldn't have been possible to say that Willow became obsessed with the power of her magic only because her lover had been murdered; this would have been all to the good. Whether someone could have coninced Marti to drop the magic-as-addiction idea, as long as she was dropping cop-out plot developments, we'll never know.

Buffy, Xander, Giles, Spike: The absence of Tara wouldn't have affected these characters very much if at all. Which underscores how the writers failed to develop her as an interesting character apart from Willow's interest in her. In a sense, she was Willow's very own Mary Sue-as-a-giufriend.

Joss and Fandom in General: The absence of Tara would have generated much less hate directed toward Joss, and subtracted one very divisive subject from the world of the fans. That wouldn't have upset me, given that there were always plenty of subjects that fit that description at any given moment.

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[> Re: Grim's stoopid question of the day. -- Maye, 19:12:36 11/19/03 Wed (66.188.131.119)

Interesting thought...okay, here goes:

Willow and Oz: I think they would have gotten back together when he returned with his new-found control, but only briefly. Sooner or later, something would have broken Oz's cool, and he would have gone all wolfish on her. He would have left her yet again.

Willow and Evil: This second leaving could have been the excuse for a deeper dependence on magic, but I agree with wwolfie on how keeping the magic-as-addiction plotline would have been interesting to see on it's own, without using Tara's death as a catalyst.

Xander: without that whole "Willow is Gay" transformation, when Xander was able to stop Willow from using magic to destroy the world, Willow would have returned to her one true love, and Xander would realize that she's always been the gal for him (hey, this is my plotline and I can do what I want with it, dammit.)

Buffy, Dawn, Giles: not really much change here. Anya might have had some potential vengeance against Willow if my whole Willow/Xander plotline worked out, but other than that, no change for her either.

Joss, et. al: Truthfully, I didn't mind either Tara or the Willow/Tara relationship as it was originally defined by Joss and Co: that it was a love between two people who just HAPPENED to be of the same sex. If Joss had made the brave choice, and allowed Willow to date guys again after losing Tara, or possibly illustrating some sort of confusion when she began dating again, he would have had a hell of a lot of hate mail, but more interesting plots, not to mention really indepth discussions about the orientations of sex and love. Basically, I don't think that Joss made Willow gay because of politics, but I do think that he was unable to take her character anywhere else AFTER that, because of politics. Ah, well.


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[> [> Re: Grim's stoopid question of the day. -- Kuzibah, 09:31:36 11/20/03 Thu (12.175.117.195)

I think your last sentence sums up Willow, S7, in a nutshell.


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