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Date Posted: 16:17:52 12/27/01 Thu
Author: Anonymous
Subject: This is all so true.

We quit pageants a year ago. My child was 9 and even she saw through it all. -- Anonymous, 20:10:08 12/27/01 Thu

She told me she saw judges hugging the kids who won, more than once. Even a child knows that a judge should not know the children or should not have judged them before, because it is not fair.

Our last two pageants, we won and after expenses and fees, even with the wins, we went in the hole for about $6,000 in one month. The wins were only $500 and $600. Isn't that a laugh.

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I have made an honest mistake -- Anonymous, 17:44:27 12/27/01 Thu

We have had so much fun in beauty pageants, and have ha some pretty crappy times at pageants as well, Honestly, I have lost my best friend ove pageants, fought with my husband and family over pageants and defended them to the very end. Recently we came upon hardship and have not been able to participate, I think it is by the grace of god. I look at all the money I dropped into pageants this past year, well over 15,000 and I think, I sure could use that money now. Sold all of the clothes for at least 40% less than we originally paid, Can't do a damn thing with all the pics now, family don't like em, and the entry fees and H&M fees and hotels and traveling, I mean all that money is just down the drain. I sit here and look at all the trophies and georgous crowns, and satin sashes and other gifts won at pageants, They won't pay my rent right now, they won't pay my electric bill right now, they won't pay my phone bill or car insurance, Hell I would be lucky to be able to give them away, I could never sell them for as much as what was put into them. I feel solely responsible for our financial downfall because of pageant silliness. WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING???? I am financially and spiritully broke. I missed church for so many pageants, what a crock, I atually defended the fact that I missed church with the fact that we had a pageant that day or days. I missed out on giving honor and glory to the one person who blessed us with the ability to even participate in the first place. It is so sad. The last pageant dress we own goes out this week, at half of what I paid for it because we need a roof over our head. I have a couple more outfits that are essentially worthless because they are out of style or season. I can honestly say I will always be a big fan of beauy pageants, I will maintain some involvement in beauty pageants but can honestly say myself and my children will never compete again. I can honestly think of only a handful of children that actully profit from pageants, only a handful across the entire USA. oUT OF THE THOUSANDS THERE ARE ONLY 20-30 THAT ACTUALLY PROFIT enough money free and clear of all expenses to validate doing a pageant for the money and that number is probably stretching it. Oh the rest of us say it is the fun and friends, WHAT FUN??? WHAT FRIENDS???? Oh sure the candy coat it friends and fun, but honestly and truly, there is no fun, there are no TRUE friends. I am so sad now that I think back, ya know I thought that people were my friends, well where are they now that I am going through hard times? They were only my friends to get what they could while they could and that is it. I have seen my children lose pageants that they should have won, I have seen the most backhanded tactics from, relatives judging to the director changing scores, butt kissing, behind the scenes judge bribing, certain kids winning because they are H&M favs, photographers botching a shoot for the sake of a win for another kid, backstabbing parents, backstabbing kids, backstabing directors, backstabbing H&M, backstabbing photographers, I mean the disrespect goes all the way down the ranks. I won't teach my kids this and luckily they are still young enough to where they never got wind of the actual deal. When I first stated with them in pageants I only wanted an honest system to have fun at and win if it was deserved, from all I have seen, been through and experienced I realize now that that type of system no longer exists. I guess I just had to be forced away from it all to realize how bad it was. After going through all of this I am not even certain I will stay involved. I just don't see the point in it all, and the waste of money is absolutely pathetic. I am sureI am not the first, and I know I won't be the last, JUST THINK ABOUT IT BEFORE YOU END UP IN MY POSITION!!

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[> How nice of you to let others know about your mistake. I think this type of post really helps people to see the light. Thanks. -- Anonymous, 17:54:50 12/27/01 Thu

[> [> Re: How nice of you to let others know about your mistake. I think this type of post really helps people to see the light. Thanks. -- Anonymous, 18:29:11 12/27/01 Thu

Why post it on THIS board! Don't you know our husbands read this board??

[> Re: I have made an honest mistake BINGO -- Anonymous, 18:39:16 12/27/01 Thu

Couldn't have said it better myself, may I add that any wins that your kids have won, may not even be ligiate wins. Many times over, wins are not even close to what they should be due to the directors friend, etc etc

[> We quit last year never sold all the clothes, but I was able to get my kids toys to the ceiling this holiday -- Anonymous, 19:13:23 12/27/01 Thu

My daughter hated pageants after awhile, I was the one who loved the excitement. It cost about $3000 to do her last pageant and we won $50.00 and she won 4 events!!

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[> [> Re: We quit last year never sold all the clothes, but I was able to get my kids toys to the ceiling this holiday -- Anonymous, 19:24:10 12/27/01 Thu

The wins may not be legit, How am I to know? How am I to know we weren't part of a scheme to keep someone from winning that should have, or come in second to a supreme winner that knew tey would supree b4 it ever starte and hell I spent so much money on pageants and have 2 in pageants and have taken as many as 12 girls referred to a pageant, we probably won for referrals or won for allthe money spnt or won wih the hopes we would bring more back with us next time or won knowing that there wasn't just one pageant girl but 2 and sometimes more than that when we took others with us, I just think it was all about the money, I mean my girls have been considered for and recieved modelig jobs, they are not ugly children but how is a mom to know if you truly and honstly took your child to get a deserved win or a money motivated win?" Is this whole pageant thing fake and someone just hasn't enlightened me yet? Is it like wrestling and it is all preplanned? Just so glad it is all over the wool isn't over my eyes anymore and I hope it won't suck anyone in like it did me, NONE of you want to be in the same place I am now, IT SUCKS!

[> Re: I have made an honest mistake -- Anonymous, 19:23:40 12/27/01 Thu

Ww quit last year my daughter begged me to, she wasn't having fun anymore. Her last pageant cost me $3000+ to do, we won 4 events (no bumping)and only won $50.00. This year I was able to put a lot more under the tree and my bills are paid. I never sold the clothes because part of me doesn't want to let it all go. Even though we are in a position to put some money behind her the whole deal was a bad investment. Many times I would watch kids win that were names, they didn't deserve the titles, the results would have been different if they weren't "known" and this always hurt. I know my daughter won a lot of title because she was "known"also, but lost a lot at scaled down pageants because she was too smooth also.

[> Re: I have made an honest mistake -- Anonymous, 19:47:14 12/27/01 Thu

Many wins aren't legit. I have judge pageants, had friends judge pageants. I've asked to change scores by directors because they were afraid of the terrible "bashing"they would get if their if a certian "personality" didn't win. Been called by a parent after judging a pageant to be asked why I gave their child such a low score and I had in fact chosen the child to win the score was changed by someone. I have been given score sheets from my daughter that were tampered with and since I knew one of the judges in question I mailed a copy to her (yes she had not given scored that low to anyone. Watching the video confirmed my suspicions, not to mention my daughter lost Supreme by exactly that amount of points.

[> [> Re: I have made an honest mistake -- Anonymous, 20:01:39 12/27/01 Thu

How about black-balling? Don't tick anybody off because you may see them at a judge's table one day, and then they take it out on your child. Or low-balling...one judge scores everybody really low except the ones she wants to win, so they control all the outcomes. Then the director says, it was a low scoring judge...not if she checks the winners scores, they weren't. She may have even put them up to it. It all sucks.

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