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Subject: Ok, here's my "two cents" so to speak on this issue Author: Glenna [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 21:28:19 12/24/01 Mon Ok, here's MY opinion as to the whole gun thing, ect. One, I think we as friends need to tolerate if not respect Shroudy's opinion on things. Others may not feel that it is right, but unfortunately that is the way the world is. We can't escape the fact that things are bad today, but we shouldn't make it worse by fighting with eachother over it. In my opinion, yes, we would be better off without guns, without weapons at ALL. And I wouldn't want anyone to berate my belief in that, or to say that I'm wrong, no matter how anyone feels about that statement. I admire those whoc an speak their opinion, and as well, I think the other side of the controversy wants to have their opinion stated as well. So, the bottom line is....LETS ALL GET ALONG EVEN IF WE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS. It will do us no good to fight about it. I am a Christian, so I don't want to offend any who don't believe this way, but I believe God will take care of it all in the end, so why should we worry about it? There's nothing wrong with opinions, but there is something wrong with not respecting th eopinions of others. And I hope nobody is offended by anything I said, I just had to get MY opinion out there! [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Subject Author Date I agree with Glenna about leaving Shroudy alone and respecting others opions, perhaps it was my fault for going over guns when it wasn't relevant to the theme of the message, I wish now I hadn't said anything so we can stop arguing. (NT) Anonnymous Fool 00:51:18 12/25/01 Tue Stop arguing its CHRISTMAS peace on Redwall and goodwill to ALL beasts! (NT) -- Trefoil, 07:50:57 12/25/01 Tue I also agree with Glenna. Just because Shroudy likes guns doesn't mean we can berate him for it! I think it is good for us to express our opinion, but YOU CAN'T CONDEMM PEOPLE FOR THIER BELIFES!!!!! I too am a christian, and I agree with A.F. It's not the guns that bring mass destruction, it's the people! Glenna, A.F., I was wondering if you would email me, I would like to get to know you both better! (NT) Katikcha 04:58:10 12/28/01 Fri Katchika is right, POP QUESTION!: What else , other than guns is a major cause of war in this world, that I personally think we could do without? Any guesses? (NT) Telemain 13:33:33 12/28/01 Fri I think that we could do without bombs. Look at all the trouble that the states is having in airports with them. Like the dude that had some bomb substance in his shoes. (NT) Gumble 14:43:41 12/28/01 Fri Ok...I think the world has too much malfunction already. I think we could do without war and violence altogether...But it's cool in video games though...Anyone ever hear of Fur Fighters? |Yesh, my real name is Nicole and Fur Fighters is my _favorite_ PS2 game. Klonoa 2 comes next| (NT) -- ::Robbin::/|Nicole|, 20:23:58 12/28/01 Fri Oh, the bomb substance was plastic explosives and C4. (NT) -- Shroudy, 16:25:44 01/05/02 Sat Awww, I want a PS2!! I have heard of Fur Fighters but never played it. I had a friend named Nicole but she moved *sniff sniff* to Pennsylavania from California! (NT) Glenna 21:27:07 12/28/01 Fri In answer to your question Telemain, I think two more causes of war are greed and pride! If humans could just say that they were wrong, and if they didn't want to conquer the world, we would be okay, I think. (By the way, play station rocks!) (NT) Katikcha 21:28:19 12/28/01 Fri I've got a playstation! I wanna PS2 but it's way too expensive :( (NT) -- Lancepaw, 15:59:46 12/29/01 Sat Meh, those are smaller ones, I meant relegion... HUGE cause of war. Gunns dont cause wars, they fight them, relegion and different beliefs cause wars. I think people should just follow science, as opposed to relegion. But hey, if I say that, I could expect a whole bunch of people starting a war with me. (NT) Telemain 04:29:40 12/30/01 Sun But Telemain, (heck, you asked for this!) "religion" isn't something you can just give up. You know it to be true, so how can you give up your very beliefs? It's like me saying I'm a boy, even though I know that I am a girl. It doesn't work. (NT) -- Katikcha, 22:18:05 12/30/01 Sun I know, but you cant give up guns either, because there is religious arguements, and people cant make a point any other way then fighting sometimes. (NT) Telemain 04:45:57 12/31/01 Mon Plus, I dont believe in religion, and I'm fine, Maybe people shouldnt give it up, but it makes people so closed minded. I argue my religious friends on belief, they say that why not believe that when I die, I am sent to paradise? I simply say, why believe in something I cant ever see. if I tell you now that there is a lake of fire out in my backyard, are you going to believe me.. NO, because that's stupidity. I mean, most christians I know are worse christians then me! AND IM NOT A CHRISTIAN..I mea, I know one, who has done things that I think are wrong, and I have high morals.But he has done something I wont even say, and this "god" will still let him in heaven. But he wont let me because I dont think he exists? Dont get me wrong, you can believe what you like, but when I die, I'm happy knowing that I'm buried in the ground, with a headstone marking my spot. I dont need heaven, because if religion didnt cause wars, we'd already be there. (NT) Telemain 16:39:07 01/01/02 Tue I have to dissagree with ye there Telemain. Religion didnt start the Civil war did it. No. Now then, actually, Lancepaw and Longlegs have proved me wrong about arguing, but when we all die (or when christians get raptured) everyone will see the truth, and that suits me just fine because I'm not afraid of dying because I know since I'm a christian, I'll go to heaven! (NT) -- Saketip, 18:19:54 01/01/02 Tue So let's drop it and leave it alone. The world is full of religions, and I have found four christians (or five, but Im certain of four) here: Me, SkipRay, Shroudy, and Glenna. Now a few more may be out there, but those Im sure. (NT) -- Saketip, 18:21:40 01/01/02 Tue I'm a christian but I don't go to church or anything, I beleive in God, and pray and read the bible on Sundays. I beleive in Heaven because I was visited in a dream by my grandfather who died and well don't think I'm crazy or anything but I'm sure it exists. I do beleive tha tsome wars are cuased by religion but not all. I beleive that guns are good and it is the person who uses them wrong, but then again you can'st stop tha tperson from using them the wrong way, and it is just as easy to start a war with knives and swords as it is guns. (NT) -- Figgs, 18:19:19 01/02/02 Wed Right Figgs! ** Gives her a thumbs up** that's absolutely correct! I dont beleive in not going to church, but oh well, ye do the right things on Sundays, so good going! (NT) -- Saketip, 18:28:02 01/02/02 Wed I believe that everyoen should stop arguing. Intolerance is what started all these wars, not guns, not religion. Intolerance is what caused the Holocaust, 6 million Jews and thousands of Gypsies, Nuns, and those who tried to help them. The Nazis wanted the Jewish people dead, and they collected Jewish artifacts, they were planning on putting it in a musuem. We should all tolerate eveyrone else's idea. Even though I do believe in a heaven, I must respect Telemain's idea because, he may be right, I do not really know if there is a heaven. And he should respect my opinion, because maybe there is a heaven. We should stop arguing. (er, i hope that didnt sound like i was arguing there) (NT) -- Furrtil who wishes people will stop arguing, 23:47:00 01/02/02 Wed She's right, and i posted a message (I think Lancepaw for some reason deleted it) that we should forget the whole thing because its a new year and we have all learned a good lesson. (NT) -- Saketip, 23:49:49 01/02/02 Wed lol, no furtill it didnt sound like u were arguing, maybe u can stop this fight, but I dont really think it's a fight. oh well. (NT) -- figgs, 22:21:05 01/03/02 Thu Also Telemain, (THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY) If someone really loves someone, they will do what they say. If your friend really loves g-d (furrtil, your right, his name IS too holy!) they will do the right thing. (NT) -- Saketip, 18:45:49 01/05/02 Sat Er, when did I say that? But it is true.... And people say Jehovah all the time but jews arent allowed to say that because we arent allowed to say the real name of g-d because it is too holy... so either people say adonai or they say yud hay vuv hey. (NT) -- furrtil, 15:18:36 01/06/02 Sun Sorry Saketip, I still think you're wrong, I mean, just because my friend might love god, doesnt mean he is donig the right thing, Someone I love has hurt me alot, but I still love her, it isnt nessesarily the right thing. There is no difference between right and wrong, you see, whatever someone does is done, and it doesnt matter what anyone thinks about it, cuz it has already been done. Like America can blow the life out of Bin Ladin, but really, does that ever bring back the people killed? NO, it just kills more people, in my opinion. (NT) Telemain 16:00:24 01/06/02 Sun telemain** is about to say something, but then realizes it would be either extremly rude or very pinning, so instead she just shakes her head.** You'll see. (NT) -- Saketip, 17:50:59 01/07/02 Mon *shakes her head* You've just ruined the point I was trying to make! We've gotta respect everyone's ideas, Song! (NT) -- Furrtil, 01:04:30 01/08/02 Tue Meh, It's alright, im used to this. People dont always see things my way, maybe cuz I am always thinking. (NT) Telemain 03:35:00 01/08/02 Tue ditto.** looks at Furrtil (sorry if this is wiggly, I hve a peice of fudge in one hand!)** Furrtil, I know everybody has their own point, but Im lke Telemain. I get into this stuff all the time because I like to prove my points. (NT) -- Songbreeze, 18:11:25 01/08/02 Tue Eeep! Why don't we, um, stop thinking? and stop trying to prove everyone wrong???? (NT) -- furrtil whos tired of this discussion, 00:39:33 01/09/02 Wed OK, I agree with Furrtil. Let's just say we all have so many opinions that we are all such good friends. Being different doesn't mean that we can't be friends or that we have to argue all the time. So I think tis time we agree to disagree, though I have my own opinions on the matter, it will only go on and on for ever if we don't stop now! ;) (NT) Glenna 01:40:04 01/12/02 Sat Yeah, so lets stop arguing and forget we ever disagreed! (NT) Shroudy 18:52:10 01/14/02 Mon