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The greatest contributor of all to that foundation is the government of Norway, a country that have a heavy tradition of using the assets of the Norwegian people, earn from the oil fields, to support every dubious enterprize of the global elite. And the revward: Norwegian politicians are steadily appointed as coordinators of various projects of the global elite, of which the most prominent example is Gro Harlem Brundtland, the once chief coordinator of Agenda 21 and the general secretary of World Healt Organization. and before that the prime minister of Norway.

Another example is the current general secretary of Nato, Jens Stoltenberg, but you have dozens of more clandestine examples in that corps. The global elite uses heavily Norway as a vector tool for their agendas. Also Norway has a heavy tradition of renting out Norwegian children as guinea pigs to medical projects of the global elite, and the children are most often provided by the heavy so-called child protective systemn of Norway.

It is often claimed that Russia has interfered with American elections in the favour of Trump. This may or may not be true, but it is beyond doubt that Norway has done it in the favour of the clintons and Barac Obama in the role as handlers for the global elite by the heavy financing of their agenda in USA and elsewhere and working as channel for their propaganda.

By Knut Holt

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Mandatory extreme medical exams and procdures on kids and adults - polls with stories -- Knuit Holt, 10:45:08 06/20/17 Tue



Interesting polls about events in childhood, teenhood and adulthood


Collected, edited and analyzed by Knut Holt

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Alien abduction - investigation of memories of alien abduction or similar events, like abduction for surveillance and experimentation by governments or mafias

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/616524

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Extended, mandatory well-child examination under anesthesia - where the kid undergo endoscopic inspections in the intimate zone and other body areas, extensive ultrasound inspections, ex-rays of several body zones, intrusive specimen collection and body function testings:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/611395

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Poll about cystoscopy or bladder inspections in kids and adults:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/615327

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Secret, intimate, intrusive medical exams and procedures under anesthesia on kids and adults:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/608976

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Called in for a strange physical or psycological exam:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/605807


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SOME OF THE STORIES I HAVE COLLECTED

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GIrl, 12 yo - Poland - cystoscopy to explore urination problems

My doughter had cystoscopy. The exam took place in Eastern Europe, Poland at 12 years old, year 2011. The cystoscopy occured in a hospital. Got an accurate explanation of what should be done and the reason. She was brought there by me, the mother. The reason was problems with urination.

Preparations:
Had to stop eating several hours before the cystoscopy. Given enema during preparations. Vitals taken like temperature, heart rate and blood pressure. A doctor came, asked questions and explained. A consent formula was presented and signed.

Anesthesia and arrangements:
Got a shot to calm down and make sleepy. Was totally naked during exam. She lay on back with legs in stirrups.

How the exam occured:
They put a rigid stick-like cystoscope in through the urethra. They pumped up and irrigated bladder with water when looking inside.","They took out the scope and inserted a new scope to take further specimens. The scope or a new intrument was inserted even further up towards the kindeys.

They inserted an ultrasond probe in through the anus to inspect the bladder and genital area. Other additional exams.

Arrangements before the exam:
Had catheter in the bladder some time after the exam. Had to stay in bed more that a day after the exam. Got medicines into urethra with a syringe after the exam.

Diagnosis and follow-up:
Diagnosis - valves or constrictions in the urethra. Had corrective surgery. Had to have a cathetherization routine.

JUdgements:
It was unneccessary. It was painful.


Comments:
It is uncertain how much of the information given here that is from what the doughter experiemced, from the mother present and seing all, or from information given.

The procedure described is a fairly standard examination for children with problems during urination. But it was added that other exams were done, but not what. The ultrasound inside her anal region probably had the purpose of getting a broad pelvic overview. In boys and younger girls the anus is typically used for that exam. In girls in full puberty and adult women the ultrasound is more often performed through the vagina.

Children that have such procedures will always be totally naked during preparations, and mounting, but then other body areas than just pelvic zones is usually covered. In the recovery period, the kid will again often be totally naked under a blanket.

If she was totally naked all the time, they probably did some additionl tests further up in her body with external instruments too, most probably ultrasound exams or x-ray pictures taken. The purpose was probably a full assessment of her development and pubertal status.

I guess that the mother left the room just after her doughter had been mounted so that she did ot see the whole procedure. I think that her doughter then was intubated, given full general anesthesia with artificial breething during the procedure, but not given information about this. The long recovery time seems to indicate that.

The mother indicates that she deems the procedure unneccessary. If she had a narrow urethra or some blockings there, it could have caused bigger problems in the future. But from the account it looks like they corrected it with a more major surgery, while it could be corrected with a fairly easy procedure.

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Girl, Bolivia, 13yo, cystoscopy in a health center followed by her mother

My doughter had cystoscopy. I brought my daughter in for an exam when she complained of some pain downstairs. The exam took place in South or mid America, Bolivia, when she was 13 years old, Year 2007. She had cystoscopy in a health centre.


PREPARATIONS

We got no explanation in the first place . The exam was a total surprize. The doctor didn't talk much. I brought my daughter to the health center. Got to a special preparation room. Had to undress completely and go to bed.


Then taken vitals like temperature, heart rate and blood pressure. A doctor came, asked questions and explained. A consent formula was presented and signed.

I undressed my daughter completely. In my country exams are always done in the naked. I signed a form saying the medical staff could do as they liked.


ARRANGEMENTS AND ANESTHESIA

She got pain-killing gas through a mask that made calm and sleepy. Was totally naked during exam. She lay on her back with straight legs, then lay on back with legs in stirrups. The doctor put my naked daughter in a lot of positions, including "Frog leg" position, during the examination. She just got a little gas to calm down, but was awake.


THE EXAM PROCEDURE

They put a flexible snake-like cystoscope in through the urethra. They also used an ultrasond probe on the stomach to inspect the bladder area. They inserted an ultrasond probe in through the vagina to inspect the bladder and genital area. They were very quick probes, the doctor said everything was fine.

While we were there, he gave her a full head to toe physical examination, saying it was good to have these done as often as possible, and that I should do them for her at home as well.


DIAGNOSIS AND FOLLOW-UPS

Diagnosis - urinary infection. He said she had a mild UTI and some cranberry juice would clear it up. If it didn't, I should come back for another exam and get antibiotics. The reason was urinary infection.


JUDGEMENT

It was useful. I would bring my daughter to this doctor several more times, he was good and thorough.


COMMENTS

The procedure was done as it should be done, with just that anesthesia needed to make the girl comfortable, but not the exaggerated anesthesia often use in North America and Western Europe, which adds discomfort before and after the exam and adds risks.

A consent where the parents allow the doctor to do anything, is however not a good thing. A concent form should explain exactly what procedures they intended and only ask concent for that.

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Girl, 15 yo, Nevada, Cystoscopy to investigate voiding difficuloties

I am female. The exam took place in North America. Nevada, in 2003 When I was 15 years old.

The cystoscopy occured in a hospital. I got an accurate explanation of what should be done and the reason. My dad took me. It was a follow-up after visiting my primary doctor when I had minor pains and some difficulty peeing.


PREPARATION

Had to stop eating several hours before the cystoscopy. Given enema at home before going. Got to a special preparation room. Had to undress completely and go to bed. Taken vitals like temperature, heart rate and blood pressure. A doctor came, asked questions and explained.

I lay on back with legs in stirrups. I got np anesthesia. I wasn't really worried or anxious or scared so i didnt need anything to calm my nerves. I got lubrication of my peehole but i dont think it had any pain killing effects. It felt weird but didn't really hurt.


THE PROCEDURE

They put a flexible snake-like cystoscope in through the urethra. They also used an ultrasond probe on the stomach to inspect the bladder area.


DIAGNOSIS AND FOLLOW-UP

It was inconclusive. They didnt find anything wrong with me. suggested I drink plenty of water, cranberry juice. and green tea, and a followup with my primary doctor 2 weeks later unless it got worse.

The reason was problems with urination. The followup appointment was fine. My symptoms were gone. Doctor said it might be due to stress or something. It might have been where I worried it into existence. Had some trouble peeing, and some minor pains down there that led to speculation with me and my mom about what it was, which caused more worry...it turned out to be nothing.


JUDGEMENT

It was useful. It was not any big deal. The exam felt really weird like it should hurt somehow but it wasn't painful at all. I think getting that exam put my mind at ease and whatever it was just went away.


COMMENT

With modern equipment and with a gentel approach a cystoscopy is a very easy procedure that can be made painfree without deep sedation or general anesthesia. In reality can the anesthesia give more disconfort, trouble and risk than the procedure done without. Doing the procedure as in this case is mostly the best way.

Yet many health institutions always subject children and teens to deep sedation or general anestesia for this procedure and other simple procedures. This shows that there is a great amount of dishonesty in the health institutions and that they often do additional things they do not tell to the kid and not to the parents either.

But this girl was taken care of by a staff working in an honest way.

Knut Holt

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GIRL, 17YO, NORTH AMERICA, YEAR 2010

A female friend had cystoscopy. The exam took place in North America, USA, 17 years old, Year 2010. The cystoscopy occured in a hospital.

She got now explanation. The exam was a total surprize. Her mom and I went with her.

Preparations:
She had to stop eating several hours before the cystoscopy. Shen got to a special preparation room. Had to undress completely and go to bed. Got a hospital gown before going to bed. While in bed given medicine to get very sleepy but was awake. The whole bed was rolled with her upon when the time for the exam had come.

Taken vitals like temperature, heart rate and blood pressure. A doctor came, asked questions and explained. A consent formula was presented and signed. She got a tube into a blood vessel to give anesthesia. Got very sleepy but was conscious.

Exam procedure:
Had a gown around me, but the lower body was naked. Lay on back with legs in stirrups. I do not know how the exam was done.

After the exam:
Had catheter in the bladder some time after the exam. Had to stay in bed some hours after the exam.

Diagnosis and treatment:
Diagnosis - reflux of urine up towards the kidneys - Vescicourethetral reflux. She had corrective surgery.

The primary reason for the exam:
The reason was problems with urination.

Judgement:
It was useful.

COMMENTS:
It seems to be common that young people are brought in for intimate exams without getting to know what shall be done. It is also typical that the staff tend to use general anesthesia to avoid rememberance of the experience on young persons. But ironically, and tragically the anesthesia causes more risks and more discomfort afterwards than the procedure itself would have done with only local numbingh ans cautious handling.


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Domestic Surveillance and Spying, a Threat against Average Citizens

By Knut Holt

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Many types of instances are surveilling average citizens in any community in the world and recording data. The data is stored, analyzed and then used for own purposes, handed over to authorities or sold to third parties for proffit. Instances that perform these actions or resceive the data for use are private companies, police, child protective agencies, secret services, social services, insurance companies, scientific institutes, health authorities and many more.

Objectives for this extensive data collection are typically such as: to protect children, to combat illness, for national and domestic security, for scientific use, to find the best advertizing targets for specific goods, for public planning, to develop company strategies and much more. Since the spying is performed in a hideous way the purposes are also poorly known in most instances, and objectives openly communicated may not be the real ones. Steadily more often they use the necessity for protecting the society from terror and children from abuse as an objective, and at the same time one tends to use absurdely wide defitions of terror and child abuse. Here is a survey of the most important contemporary domestic surveillance activities:


SPYING ON PEOPLES BUYING HABITS

When you go to the supermarket or any other bigger store, the products and quantities you buy together with your bank account is read into the payment terminal and stored in the computer connected to that terminal. These data are then typically distributed to a third party that builds up a dossier about the buyng habits associated with your bank account. The third party then gets personal information about you and your family from the bank and identifies you as individuals. Based on your buying habits they then deduce a lot about the personal life of you and you family, including your children. The data is then distributed to cooperating instances, both authorities and private companies.


SPYING ON YOU THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA

Most websites that give you free information or free cervices, for example online newspapers, Google, Youtube, Yahoo, are associated with spyware that register data about your activities, store them in a central and distribute them further to third parties. The script for these functions is typically loaded up by a basic script integrated in the page you are reading on. What the uploaded spyscript does, will vary from time to time, and can also be adjusted for the individual user. Based on what can be deduced about your interests, the website will also load up scripts to present adverts for individualized products and cervices. Probably data are also hideously collected by such services for authoriries.

Also most blogs or private webpages based on free systems like for example Wordpress contain scripts that upload spyware when you read or write at the blog. These systems will automatically place the script for uploading of the active spyscripts in the code when the blog or webpage is constructed. A developer with programming knowledge can of cource take that script out, but most forget to do it, or it is against the contract for use of the free development system to do it. When someone reads or writes into the blog or webpage, his activities will be recorded, and what is interesting will be distributed to third parties.


SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS IN PUBLIC PLACES

It is a wellknown fact that surveillance cameras with microphones are installed all around at public places like streets, stores, theatres, cinemas, hospitals, sport arenas and schools. There is a growing tendency to install such cameras also at places where intimate activities occur, like locker rooms and toilets, so that anything you do at those places is surveilled. Often the cameras at the most intimate places are hidden so you do not know that they are there, or are camouflaged as some other type of installation. What you or your children do at all these places is also videotaped and stored. These data is steadily more often analyzed and the most interesting things from these audiovisual data are distributed to third parties which most typically will be police, social servcises and child protective agencies.


SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS IN SCHOOL LOCKER ROOMS AND TOILETS THAT CHILDREN USE

Authorities do not restraint themselves from spying on citizens, and especially children, even at places for the most private and intimate needs and actions. It has been amply revieled that a great many schools have surveillance cameras installed in the locker rooms and toilets the children use, so that one can record in detail what the children do at these places. Probably hidden spy equipment is installed even in the toilet equipment itself so that the bodily functions of children can be recorded.

The revelations have come forth by use of freedom of information acts. But there are always something in ayy community that is not covered by such acts, so one can surely deduce that hidden cameras not admitted is also installed to spy on the most intimate moments in the daily life of children.

So far most acounts are from UK, but it is a fact that USA, Canada, UK and Scandinavian countries extensively copy the practices regarding children, so be sure it happens worldwide.

This filming is surely used to analyse the intimate habits of children that the school find different from a strict normality scheme, at it is probably coordinated by some superior instances that use it, like the child protetive agenies and special polise units. If not coordinated and ordered by more superior agencies, so many schools have hardly dared to install spy equipment at these places.

If you go to google and type "cameras in children's toilets" you will find massive accounts of this expanding practice.


SURVEILLANCE BY DRONES

Drones that fly around high and low to record the activities of citicens are becoming steadily more commen, and these drones are typically used secretly so no-one knows about it. Must so-called UFO-sightings are probably due to sightings of such drones. They takes photos, perform videotaping and listen to wireless communications. They may also contain technology to interfere with such communications. Most typically they surveil districtwise, but are also used to surveil persons on individual basis. There is a growing tendency to especially survail children and their parents with drones. Such drones are most often operated by police units, but stedily more often privat companies, property owners, child protective agencies and social services use drones as a part of their arsenal, or buy services based on drone usage from providers of such survices.


SURVEILLANCE ON YOUR EONOMY AND PRIVATE LIFE BY YOUR BANK

In many societies the banks have been instructed to subject the use of your accaunts to a thight scrutiny, and any unusual activity pattern from what is common in the society, or any new pattern of use of your accounts trigger alarms that make the employees of the bank investigate you. If the investigation reveals even slight suspicion of some illegal activity, the bank is instructed to report you to authorities, and the bank has been given the permission to deny transactions or even block your acount totally from use on such circumstances. Banks have generally employed sophisticated software to do this spying and analyses, and you are not allowed to know what data the bank is collecting about you. This is at least the situation in the European Union and countries associated with the European Union.


SURVEILANCE BY THE TELEPHONE COMPANY AND ISP YOU USE

Your telephone service provider or ISP prowider is constantly registering and storing data about all your connections and also store all messages you have resceived or sent. They can also store your voiced conversations if that is of interest. Traditionally the old data are erazed when the roll for the abonnent is full and new data is filled in, but steadily more some key data are stored permanently. These data are handed to authorities on a regular basis or after request. The provider will of cource also sell data about you to third parties that then will send you adverts based on what they can deduce about your interests.

Telephone companies also typically have permanent surveillance lines from their servers to police units so that the communication of spcific citizen can be tapped at will any time. In many countries there are moves to increase the bandwith of this surveiilance network by connecting such lines them to all local telecommunication link stations, and not only to central servers. The objective of this expansion is be able to surveil and record all communication to and from all citizens at all times. These activities are of cource regulated by law, but these vary between communities and often give the authorities wide privileges, and do not be sure that the authorities themselves abide to the law.


THE MASSIVE SURVEILLANCE UPON ORDINARY CITIZENS BY NSA AND THE LIKE REVEALED BY EDUARD SNOWDEN

In June 2013 a former employee of FBI and of a contractor company working for NSA (National security agency), Eduard Snowden, revealed through newspapers documents that prove that NSA surveil the communication of all customers of certain telephone companies and of services like Google, yahoo, Skype, AOL, Microsoft and Youtube. The documents were mailnly copies of approval from courts in the USA that they could freely take in data about whole groups of citizens. According to the documents the surveillance were massive regarding comunication crossing the border to USA, but somewhat unclear about the extent of surveillance of purely domestic communication.

It seems that the surveillance plan is working this way: The providers handle over to the NSA scheduled lists that identify all calls and all communication sessions and the people communicating. For people thay are especially interested in surveilling, they record in real time the calls and sessions and all data transfere during the calls and sesions, including voice and pictures. The surveillance is achieved through wires directly connected into the backbone servers of the providers. The system used by the NSA is identified with the name PRISM, but some or perhaps much of the data processing is probably done by proprietary software belonging to the providers, because the providers themselves perform surveillance in order to sell data about custoners and their cativities. Probably the providers are paid a rather huge revenue from the authorities for the the data they hand over.


SURVEILLANCE BY YOUR FAMILY DOCTOR OR PEDIATRICIAN

When you or your children visit the family doctor, pediatrician, health center or hospital, or when your children have a physical exam in the school, you typically will deliver a urine specimen or it is taken blood specimens. These specimens will of cource be used to control traditional fysiological parameters, like hemoglobin, blood sugar, cholesterole and lipids. They are also often used to test you for use of illegal drugs, but also legal substances used in a way the society does not approve. Sometimes it is openly communicated that such tests are done, but often not. In addition it is possible to find out a lot more about you or your families lifestyle by applying specific tests to the specimens. The results of the tests are typically stored in central databases, and distributed to interessents that can be insurance companies, social services, child protective agencies, scientific institution and private companies.


SURVEILLANCE UPON PEOPLE BEING UNDER ANESTHESIA IN HOPITALS

If you, and especially your children are under anesthesia for some procedure, being tonsillectomy, dental work or whatever, it is a great chance that the staff or someone cooperating with the staff will do secret exams, take secret pictures, or take secret specimens, often of a very intimate kind, to find out as much as possible about you and your children. And what they find is used by all kind of community services, but perhaps especially the social services and the child protective agecies.

In many societies children are frequently sent to special exams to screen for sexual abuse or sexual behavior that the society does not approve. or to investigate observations that are interpreted as symptoms of sexual abuse. These exams are sometimes done secretly when the child is under anesthesia for some other reason, sometimes with the child awake. In many societies one has got to a situation where the authorithies nearly automatically suspect parents for abusing their children, and always suspect children that deviate some way from the social norm to be victims of sexual abuse. It does not matter for the society if the deviation is positive or negaive. For example will a child that is more intelligent than the average, and showing interests accoring to his or her intelligence nearly automatically be suspected for being an abuse victim.

During these exams they will take all kind of specimens, including specimens from all body openings and they will take intimate picture of the child. These data will be stored permanently and the data themselves or the interpretations made from the data will be distributed to interessents, like police, social services, the school, scientific institutions and child protective agencies.


THE GEOGRAPHICAL SPREAD OF THESE ACTIVITIES

The activities told about here are not done in every society in every country on Earth at equal extent, but be sure that this informationat least in some degree apply to the society where you live, and in many societies they apply in full extent, and regardless of the society is a democratic one or one that tends towards dictatorship. In all societies there are of cource laws that regulate surveillance of this kind, but the laws are invariably constructed in such a way that certain authorities have nearly full privilage to spy at you or your children with any type of means. The authorities that have the greatest privilages, are usually not the ordinary police, but more often child protective agencies, the school system and social services.

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AUTHORITIES INSTALL SPY CAMERAS IN CHILDREN'S LOCKER ROOM AND TOILETS AT SCHOOL

Steadily more schools install cameras in locker rooms and toilets to spy on children and teens. So far most acounts are from UK, but it is a fact that USA, Canada, UK and Scandinavian countries extensively copy the practices regarding children, so be sure it happens worldwide.

This filming is surely used to ananalyse the intimate habits of children that the school find different from a strict normality scheme, at it is probably coordinated by some superior instance that use it, like the child protetive agenies and special polie units.

If you go to google and type "cameras in children's toilets" you will fond several accounts of this expanding practice, off which thi is an example:


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/sep/11/cctv-cameras-school-changing-rooms


Also read here for a more coprehensive acount about the surveillance from authorities and service providers upon average citizens.

http://www.eioba.com/a/49u9/domestic-surveillance-and-spying-a-threat-against-average-citizens


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We have heared much about security agencies spying on ordinary citizens, as well on political actants, using tapping of electronic communication. But some even more direct and physically hardcore scary methods has since sveral years been in use and these are gradually extended to all pats of the communities in USA and the allied countries.

The ability to trace all physical movements of any citizen in USA and allied countries have been built out enormously. Technically they use antenna stations, drones and even electronic chips secretedly implanted in persons. The antenna stations and the drones can communicate with cellphones or other electronic devices you have on you and they can monitor you even more directly if you have an electronic chip inplanted in you. .

If you think you have seen an UFO or a swarm of UFOs, you have most probably seen surveillance drones that are watching the area, including you and your children.

If you or your children have been under anesthesia for some procedure or exam, the chance that you have got an electronic chip inplanted secretly is rather high in certain comunities, and the drones and antennas also communicate with those chips to surveil you.

Steadily more communities in USA and other countries have a secret program of inplanting electronic chips into every child or teen so that they can be monitored at any time with antennas in the area and with surveillance drones constantly circling the airspace over the community. The kids are called in for an exam under anetshesia using some pretence and inplantation of these chips is one of the things done.

Please read in depth about domestic spying here:

http://www.abicana.com/spying-and-surveillance.htm

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Unmarked Governmental Vans Engaged in Child and Teen trafficking

Unmarked vans owned by the government are steadily more often seen at roads in USA and other coutries.

These have generally blackened windows and it is generally unable to look into them, except to some degree at the drivers cabin and in that cabin nothing especially interesting is to be seen, except that the driver and helpers wear some sort of military-like outfit, but with a neutral look.

Some of these are heavy duty vans, and are obviously transporting some material, possibly nuclear equipment for the military forces.

But the most interesting of these are trucks of a more moderate size, that usually drive in small columns. By appearance these seem more suited for transportation of people than technical equipment. The car models and the outfit of the cars are typicallly the same as that of ambulances.

The trucks may in fact be some kind of camoufaged ambulances, and if so, the persons being transported are most probably children or teenagers which are held deeply sedated or under general anesthesia. The child protective system each day transport children taken from parents to secret places, and this is a possible method of doing so.

They might also carry children taken hold of to use them as guinea pigs in governmental projects.

They might be young people having been declared braid dead, but with still living bodies, and possibly still living brains to, and are under transport to some clearing central for distribution of organs.

They might be children and teens being transported this way to governemental correction facilities or mental hospitals where they will be held secretly for a specific time.

Some of these trucks are possibly owned and operated by the National Guard, but still the National Guard may be on some mission for other governmental bodies, like the CPS or jouvenile correction system. Services like national guards and the like in any ountry tend to do services for other bodies when these other bodies require some security transportation service or the like.

This is a common feature in any society. You use your resources for several purposes, and especially security services work on orders from several other agencies, and especially agenies like child protective agenies or the like.

By Knut Holt

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Athlete Development by Unhealthy Medical and Psychological Intervention on Children and Teens

By Knut Holt

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm

All over the World persons destined to become competition athletes are systematically subjected to a strict training and diet regime with a military-like disipline from they are young kids, without regard for the ultimate well.being of the kid, and the future well-bing of the adults these kids acentually will be.

In these training regimes there is a cartain element of fun, pleasure and happiness, but only in the way and degree that it helps the goal of producing a athlete that can take gold medals in national and international competitions.

These regimes are fairly well known. What is not so well known, is that those kids are developed systematically not only with a strict training regime, but also with extensive medical interventions of pharmacological, surgical and physical kind. On the long term these interventions can produce disasterous result from their health as adults.

Also psychological interventions are used to make the children obey the regimes, to feel an ambition they would not feel otherwise, and to suppress other whishes and ambitions they would naturally have. Some of the interventions also make the kids feel a kind of ecstacy, not unlike sexual ecstacy, coupled to the training regime, that is used as a driving force.

Often these kids attend special sport schools, often boarding schools, with hospital sections where the kids undergo the programs consisting of surgeries and other imterventions. Other kids attend sport clubs that have theie own medical centers for that purpose or cooperate with some nearby medical center.


PHARMACOLOGICAL INTERVATION

Sveral drugs are forbidden to use during training and compettition. Among those are many steroids. But symptoms you can watch at young athletes,like for example girls having a typical masculine body shape, points to extensive treatment of athletes under development with these kind of drugs, but of cource it happens secretly.

Less clandestine is the use of asthma medication to alollow to make it easier for young athletes to train intensively and thereby obtain greater development within muscle mass and condition. Even though there are certain restrictions on the use of such drugs, the restrictions are commonly overcome by false asthma diagnoses. Some of these drugs also hane a direct anabolic effects, commonly danied by the sport clubs and their medical apparatus.

In sports where great flexibility and slim body figure gives advantages, drugs to delay or even block the pubertal development is commonly used both for boys and girls, so that the shape and flexibility of a child is preserved in athletes in their teens or after. Some nations or teams are commonly accused of sending underage performers to international competitions, pretending that they are older. This might be true, but more likely these performers are much older, but with pharmacologically blocked pubertal development.


BODY MODIFICATION BY PHYSICAL MANIPULATIONS

Especially in sports that require great flexibility, this is not only achieved by classical stretching exercises, but also by techical equipment of various kind. To achieve greater flexibility in the pelvic region, the anus, rectum, urethra or vagina are frequently blocked out or otherwise manipulated on kids being developed to athletes.

Furthermore, the colon, anus, bladder and urethra of these kids are often manipulated by insertion of balloons that are then inflated. The purpose seem to be facilitaion of complete emptying of the colon and bladder before they perform, so that the content is not any hinder for training and performance.

These kids is also frequently subjected to cystoscopy or vaginoscopy where long term working medication is injected in the deeper parts of the genitals with the purpose of decreasing sexual reactions,like erections, that are seen as a hinder for the training and development process.

These manipulations are often done in massage sessions after training, and with the kid sedated so that heshe is not fully aware of what is going on.


SURGICAL INTERVENTION

Intervations to make joints and body structures more flexible is very common during the development of a young athlete. The hip joints are most often surgically reshaped for this purpose. Also structures in the pelvic floor around the genitals and anus are subjected to surgery to make the structures more fit for extensive bendings and flextions.

A fairly common surgical intervention in athletics that require great flexibility is removal of some rib bones.

In some sport clubs, the size of male genitals are sytematically reduced to make the area more fit for the sport they perform. It seems to be most common in swim clubs.

Most female top artists have got the development of the breasts depressed or they have undergone surgery to diminish the breasts.

From American collage sport there are exampls of heart surgery to increase the working capacity of the heart in young athletes. Probably the capacity of the vessels furnishing the heart with blood is increased during the surgery.

Also from American collage sport there are also examples of surgery to reduce the size of the intestines to make the abdumen get an optimal shape.


PSYCHOLOGICAL INTERVETION

Hypnotic techniques are often used to motivate children for the transformational program to make a top athlete. An objective of the techiques is to make the child believe firmly in the glory of being a successful athlete, to believe firmly that he or she will become such a athlete and to decrease their consciousness of other immediate or long term wishes.

The children will often be sedeted with drugs before the hypnotic sessions to weaken own critical judgement about the material suggested.


USE OF YOUNG ATHLETES AS GUINEA PIGS IN MEDICAL RESEARCH AND MEDICAL TRAINING OBJECTS

Medical research organizations and universities use athletes under development extensively as guinea pigs to try out new surgidal and pharmacological methods to alter body development, shape and function, and to try out new techniques for mental manipulation.

Many of the body-alterning techiques used on the kids are such new methods not commonly known about or older methods still kept secret.

The kids are also used extensively as training objects for medical students and for doctors under specialization.

The sport clubs and sport schools earn money for renting out kids for these purposes.


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What is Rosacea - Symptoms and Treatment Options

Rosacea gives dilated blood vessels and inflammation in the skin. The skin is often also infected by bacteria. Most often the face is attacked and especially the convex surfaces of the face. Sometimes also the eyes or other body parts are affected. Rosacea may begin early, but distinct and serious symptoms usually develop as an individual gets older.

WHAT SYMPTOMS ARE SEEN BY ROSACEA

The primary symptoms of rosacea are the following. All the symptoms may not be present always.

- Permanent redness in the skin. This redness can get better or worse periodically.

- Flushing or redness that comes and disappears periodically.

- Telangiectasia - This is a distinct widening of small blood vessels in an area.

- Papules - Small dome-shape spots filled with fluid, often group wise.

- Skin areas with rosasea symptoms often get infected, and the infection worsens the symptoms.

- Pustules or pimples - Sometimes infection makes the papules develop into real pimples. However, if the pimples appear in a hair follicle stuffed with sebum (comedones), they are a symptom of acne, and not rosacea. Pimples from acne and rosacea may exist together.

Rosacea also implies secondary symptoms that are caused by the primary symptoms, or appear later than the primary ones.

- Burning or stinging.

- Placks - elevated red areas.

- Scaling, often associated with burning or stinging.

- Dry skin, often occurring before scaling.

- Edema coming in areas that already has been red for some time.

- Symptoms from the eyes like: Redness, itching, burning, corneal damage.

- Thickening of the skin, or lumps in the skin.

- Distended hair follicles.

- Rosacea in other places than the face.

WHAT CAUSES ROSACEA

The exact causes are not known, but some people seem to inherit the tendency of developing rosacea. People that blush very often seem to develop rosacea more easily. Therefore rosacea may be caused by blood vessels that dilate too easily upon stimulation, and eventually become permanently dilated.

The following types of stimulation may cause worsening of the rosacea symptoms: heat, hot baths, strenuous exercise, sunlight, wind, very cold temperatures, hot or spicy foods and drinks, alcohol consumption, menopause, emotional stress, prolonged use of topical steroids on the skin.

HOW IS ROSACEA TREATED

Traditional medicine does not have any treatment for the basic processes of rosacea, such as redness and the blood vessel extension.

Laser treatment may be used to take away already dilated blood vessels or skin irregularities by rosacea. The laser light heats and destroys the dilated blood vessels.

When infection is a part of the disease, and papules or pustules occur, rosacea is treated with antibiotics, usually applied directly on the skin, for example metronidazole. Oral treatment may also be used by severe rosacea, for example with: Tetracycline, minocycline, erythromycin, and doxycycline.
By pimple formation, you can also use rinsing skin cleansers in the same way as by acne.

On the market you can find several alternative medicines, mostly topical creams, to treat rosacea. These often contain natural oils, herbal extracts, vitamins, minerals and anti-oxidants that alleviate inflammation and stimulate skin healing. They may also contain mild antiseptic agents to treat bacterial infection.

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POLLS WITH MANY TESTAMONIALS TO UNVESTIGATE WHAT DOCTORS DO TO KIDS AND ADULTS -- Knut Holt, 11:28:04 09/21/18 Fri



Interesting research polls about strange or intrusive medical and psycological exams or procedures kids and adults are subjected to. You can use these polls to tell your own history or the history of someone you know about. The polls already have a lot of interesting testamonials you can read and comment upon.

If the links are not active, you can copy them and use them in the address line of your browser where they will work.
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Extended, mandatory well-child examination under anesthesia - where the kid undergo endoscopic inspections in the intimate zone and other body areas, extensive ultrasound inspections, ex-rays of several body zones, intrusive specimen collection and body function testings:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/611395

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Poll about cystoscopy or bladder inspections in kids and adults:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/615327

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Secret, intimate, intrusive medical exams and procedures under anesthesia on kids and adults:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/608976

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Called in for a strange physical or psycological exam:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/605807


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Alien abduction - investigation of memories of alien abduction or similar events, like abduction for surveillance and experimentation by governments or mafias

https://www.misterpoll.com/polls/625773

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All the polls also have a message board. The individual stories of each participant will be published here. Here you can add comments or ask questions.


Knut Holt

aquila_grande@yahoo.no

Please also see his website with interesting information about alternative treatments, fitness and sex

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm

http://www.mydeltapi.com/erotic-products.htm

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LATEST TESTAMONIALS FOM MY POLLS

Sister 14yo and brother 12yo getting puberty check and psychological assessment together

I am a female. My brother and I were examined together so I will try to tell you what happened to both. I was 14 and my brother was 12, Year 2000 or after. In North America, Idaho. I was examined in a healthh center. we were driven there by Mom and a doctor examined us.

OVERVIEW OF THE EXAM

They examined my head, teeth or jaws. They did an orthopedic exam. They examined my genitals and did a general examination of my pelvic zones. They performed a psychological exam. They made interrogations about my social relations and my daily life.

ARRANGEMENTS

They examined me and my brother together. I was totally naked. My positions during the exam: on table mostly.

THE PROCEDURE STEP BY STEP

Firstly they told my brother and I to undress. Then they instructed us to pay close attention to each other's bodies, what makes us different. Thirdly they shaved off our pubic hair and my armpit hair. Then did the full physical exam on us.

And then asked us lots of personal questions during the exam, about our masturbation habits. They also had us urinate into cups. The exam ended this way: told us "now that you have seen each other, there are no more secrets. Please add further comments. As we got dressed again, the doctor told me not to put my bra back on, talked about breast ligaments

OPINION ABOUT THE ORDEAL

What do you think was the reason for this exam? My brother had been spying on me a lot, I think they wanted to put an end to i. What is your opinion about thios experience? Well we weren't as curious about each other any more, but it was very embarrassing.

URINARY AND GENITAL EXAM

They had us pee into cups. They palpated the outar male genitals and testicles of my brother. They slid down his foreskin and spread my urinary opening. They let him masturbate to collect a semen specimen.

They palpated my outer female genitals. They spread my genital lips to look inside. They examined my vagina with a speculum.

RECTAL CHECK

They spread our cheeks and examined extarnally our rectal zone. They examined our rectum with an inserted finger. They did this for both my brother and I as we watched each other.

SOCIAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSESSMEMNT

Someone came and performed a psychological test even though I was called in for quite another thing. The psychological parts were during the physical exam.

FOLLOW-UPS

Psychological or social counceling as follow up. They gave our parents a lot of paperwork with their findings but we weren't told.

COMMENTS

First of all this was a check of development and pubertial status, and this part is probaly standard in this community.

But they added an assessment about the relationship between the sister and brother, and did so with direct observation. This also seemed to be a direct education of both of them about the difference between the two sexes. Furthermore this was a also an assessment on the psychological development with focus on the relationship between mental feelings and body.

The reason for this part of the exam was surely concern for possible sexual relationship between the prother and the sister and for the psychological development of both.

In some communities such a direct observation and education will be regarded as inappropriate, but not necessarily in all communities. It is possible that the doctor arranged it this way for own sexual gratification, but it may also be a standard in this community by certain concerns.

Knut Holt

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm


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Girl 13yo North America pubertal status exam plus hair removal

I am a female. I was a teenager. My exact age when this occured. 13 The exam occured in Washington, Year 2000 or after, in North America.

OVERVIEW OF THE EXAM

I was examined in a hospital. They examined my head teeth or jaws. They did an orthopedic exam. They examined my genitals. They did a general examination of my pelvic zones. I was totally naked.

THE EXAM STEP BY STEP

First they forced me to get naked. I was embarrassed to let my dad see me but they pulled my clothes off. Then carefully and completely went over my body head to toe, commenting on every part, proportion etc Thidly forced me to walk down the hall naked to another room Then washed me in a little shower cubicle

They then lathered me up and shaved my whole body saying girls my age should have no body hair. They also rubbed a cream into my genitals, armpits, legs and arms, saying it would stop hair growing back. The exam ended by drying me off, walked me back to the first room so I could put my clothes back on


COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS FROM THE GIRL ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE

What do you think was the reason for this exam? I guess this is normal? No other girls I know have any hair so does everyone go through this? What is your opinion about this experience? I was so totally embarrassed.

INTIMATE EXAM

They did not examne my urinary system. They palpated my outer female genitals. They spread my genital lips to look inside. They examined my vagina with a speculum. They spread my cheeks and examined externally my rectal zone.

OBSERVATIONS

Nothing other real weird happaned. Dad said he would check me periodically to see if any hair was growing back


COMMENTS
Firstly this was an exam to check the puberty status and this part is normel at least in some communities.

The removal of hair does not seem normal. It vary conciderably how much hair a girl has at the age if 13. It is normal not to have body hair and also normal to have some at this age. But it seems that all girls in this community are held hairless.

It looks like the hair removal is a preparation for a more thorrough medical procedure planned at a later stage that all girls and also boys go through in some communities. In this procedure also the inside of the urinary system and lower digestive system is inspected. One also perfroms inspections through the nose and mouth and test of body functions.

Knut Holt

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Boy, 6-12yo, Western Europe, yearly extensive endoscopic exams at school.

I am male. It happened in Western Europe, 200-2014. My parents just told me it was time to go to the dr and drove me to the exam that happened at room in the school that was preliminary prepared for the event.

It happened all children in my school of the age group. I was just taken, and didnt know how we were selected. I attended ordinary daytime school.


PREPARATIONS

I was not allowed to eat some time before the exam. I got laxatives at home to clean out my stomach the day before the exam. They washed my body before the exam. I was totally naked through alll the procedures. I had to strip totally naked before the exam.

They placed me upon something like a dentist's chair, but with devices to lift my legs onto. I was placed to lay on my back with my legs flexed up, spread and mounted upon two devices.

I got a device on a finger or a toe to measure pulse and oxygen in my blood. I got a blood pressure monitor wrapped around an arm or a leg. I got electrodes on my cheast. my stomach or hip region, on my legs and on my head.

I got a tube or wire in through my urethra, and in through my anus. I cannot remember i got any anesthesia.


EXAMINATION WITH EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT

They performed an EEC (electroencephalogram) - functional test of the brain with electrodes on the head. They performed an ECG, functional test of the heart function, with electrodes on my chest and other body areas. They performed an analysis of my breathing and oxygen uptake where I had to breath into a tube.

They examined my head and neck, my upper body, my stomach area, my shoulder area, my hip area, my arms and legs with an ultrasound device or something similar.

They used electrodes to record functions inside my head, my chest, belly and my limbs.

They examined my genitals with an ultrasound device. They had electrodes at my genitals to record functions in this area. They explored my penis with their fingers.


INTERNAL INSPECTIONS

They inspected the inside of my nose with a scope. They took specimens from my nose with a tube. They inspected the inside of my throut with a scope.

They took specimens from my throut with a tube. They inspected the inside of my urethra and bladder with a scope. They took specimens from my urethra and bladder with a tube.

They inspected my anus with a speculum. They took specimens from my anus with a tube. They inspected me through my anus with a rigid scope. They inspected me through my anus high up with a flexible scope. They performed a full colonoscopy with a flexible scope. The doctor explored my anus with a finger.

ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM

I had electrodes on my head. I had electrodes on my body.

I had catheter into my bladder. I had a tube going in through my anus. I lay with my legs in stirrups some time after the exam.

I was still fully naked after the main exam was over, I had my penis examined again.


COMMENTS

This is a standard procedure children go through in selected communities or schools in all parts of the World, and these oreals seem to be coordinated internationally. It is used to screen for diseases, for surveillance of kids in the society and for research.

Even though the ordeal involve very intrusive examinations, it is possible to perform it painless with modern equipment and only limited anesthesia.

Still heavy anesthesia or even full general anesthesia are often used on kids at these ordeals, mainly to hinder the kids and the parents about knowing and remembering details of what is done and tell it to others.

When many children in all age groups in a school go through the ordeal it is not economically feasible to apply advanced anestesia. Therefore it was not done in this case.

Still I think some anestesia was given, probably through the anus of the boy or through the air he breathed.

Knut Holt

http://www.mydeltapi.com


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Boy, 16yo, USA, several experimental endoscopies and surgeries

I am male. It happened as early teen, 16yo, in North America, in USA, in year 2010 or later.

The procedure happened in a hospital. My stepdad took me to see a doctor who said I would be a perfect patient for some small procedures. I was picked up from a location with my stepdad by an ambulance. I was not often given resons for the procrdures,as I was only given orders .


OVERVIEW OF THE PROCEDURES DONE

I had an exam or surgery in my chest, in my stomach area, in my upper stomach with instruments through my mouth. I had cystoscopy or other procedure through my urethra. I had an exam or procedure through my anus.

I had several done over a 4 month period. The first one I had was a laparoscopic surgery of my belly, at least that's what I was told. My second one was on my heart. My third one was on my belly again and they told me I had my appendix taken out. The others were exams of my stomach and intestines and bladder. I also had brain surgery.

SYMPTOMS AFTER THE PROCEDURES

I had pain, irritation or other problems in my nose, my mouth, my urethra or bladder and my anus or rectum. I had pain, irritation or gas in my colon or lower stomach. I had pain or irritation in my esophagus or upper stomach. My parents or others giving hints or remarks about unexpected symptoms or signs. Just pain and irritation of parts of my body.


THE ANESTHESIA GIVEN

I was given sedative medicines through my mouth. They gave me sedative medicines through my anus. I was given medication intravenously. They gave me gas through a mask. I was awake but drowsy from the anesthesia sometimes, but other times I was unconscious all the time. It depended on the procedure I had done for some I was put out others I was awake or half asleep


DETAILS I REMEMBER OR KNOW ABOUT THE PROCEDURES

I mainly remember what happened on my day of arrival and the day I got to go home and another day as well.

My first day I was taken to an exam room that had a gown hanging in it and was told to go behind a screen and take everything off. They put my clothes in a bag and looked them in a storage locker that I had to close with a thumb print.

After I had an exam plus my blood pressure taken my stepdad signed some forms and then I was brought to a room and told I had to shower and put on some clothes on the bed and then lie on it.

My last day I had to shower and put on a gown and then was examined again and my stepdad took me home in the ambulance.

ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE MAIN PROCEDURE

I don't really know where it was I was 16 at the time. It was pretty scary at times because I was alone and naked or in plastic hospital gowns a lot.

I had IV tubes in blood vessels and breathing tube only after I had my heart surgry .

I had catheter into my bladder a few times, they also pumped out my bladder a couple of times . I did not have tube in my anus after I woke up, but they did pump my stomach once. I had heart monitor for a day or two after each surgery. I don't really remember about other monitoring equipment. I remebered the procedures only when I was supposed .

COMMENTS

The boy was used in an experimental project, not for his own good in the first place, and he was probably also subjected to tiisue theft. It is possible that the stepfather got money for what was done.

Even though he does not say it, it is probable that the boy had a prehistory in a child protective setting and that the stepfather was a foster care father. Kids taken hold of by child protective agencies are frequently abused by projects connected to research institutions and great medical companies.

The stomach pumping he talks about was probably a cleaning procedure, or a intestinal test procedure, and so also the bladder pumping. Bladder and stomach pumping through the anus is frequently told about in these testamonials.

It is possible they found something that suggested je could benefit from brain surgery and heart surgery, but I strongly suspect that these also were experimental.
It is probably true that they took out his appendix, but they did it to collect tissue, not to treat the boy for any illness.

Knut Holt

http://www.mydeltapi.com


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Boy, 10yo, North America, unexpected brain surgery with circumcission

I am male. It happened as preteen 10yo. The procedure happened in USA, in the years 2000-2009. Other kind of exam or procedure. I had brain surgery. They only told me I was going to have surgery and then when I got to the hospital they told me I was having surgery to make me a good boy.

My parents brought me. I was 10 years old and it happened at a children's hospital.


PREPARATIONS AND ANESTHESIA

They gave me gas through a mask. They gave me gas through a tube down my throut. This is usually not remembered because one gets other medication first. I was awake but drowsy from the anesthesia. They put a mask on me to put me to sleep for part of time
. The procedure happened in a hospital.


THINGS REMEMBERED FROM THE PROCEDURE

They also woke me up for part of it and I had a tube in one of my nostrils going down my throat. It was kind of Cool when they woke me up for the brain surgery because they talked to me during it.


SYMPTOMS AND OBSERVATIONS AFTER THE PROCEDURE

My underwear was messed up or other signs that I had been stripped naked at my lower body. The time till I regained consciousness was at least twice before I woke up than expected. I was awake and asleep for parts of it but, when I woke up after the whole thing was done I had no underwear on I did woke up circumcised


ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE PROCEDURE

I had IV tubes into blood vessels on me that i do not know what were for. I had a mask. Yes I had catheter, it was connected to a bag I had heart monitor, blood pressure cuff and a brain wave monitor They asked me how I was feeling and stufg. I only remember from the procedure when when they woke me up no.


COMMENTS

Based on the account, it does not seem that the boy was ill in any usual sense that gave reason for the surgery. It is possible he suffered from some kind of epilepsy that gives behavior symptoms. But it is also possible they performed a sort of psychiatric surgery to alter emotions and behavior that did not conform to narrow standards set by the society.

The circumcission was possibly done only to harvest the tissue in the foreskin, because this tissue is use for treatments of other patients, and for research, and is sold on the organ market. In either case, circumcision is seldom the best solution for any problem a boy himself may have.

Even the brain surgey and the circumcission, possibly was done for other reasons that the good of the boy himself, it did not feel very traumatic for the boy.

General anesthesia adminitered through a tube going through the nose is done for practical reasons sometimes. Also waking a pationt up during brain suregy to test where specific functionds are situated in the brain is also sometimes done, so these are noremal procedures.

It is possible that they did some alterntions also in his inner genital organs in order to modify behavior, and this may also be one of the reasons for circumcision.

Knut Holt

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Preteen boy, Eastern Europe, intrusive examinations and tissue sampling for research

I am male. It happened as preteen 10-12 The procedure happened in Eastern Europe including the whole of Russia, in the years 1980-1989. The procedure was done in Scientific Institut of Medicone.


SYMPTOMS AFTER THE PROCEDURE

I had slime, bleeding, discharge or rest of lubrication coming out of my urethra. I had signs of needles having been stuck into my stomach or breast area.
When I woken up I had special feeling in mouth and neck.
I found a sign after surgery on my chest.
I woken up in room where a lots of boys like me were lying all full naked.


PREPARANTIONS INITIAL PROCEDURES AND ANESTHESIA

My parents got a message I have to go for special medical exam which takes few days. Based on the instructions I received through parents I had to be in school at 5:00pm, two hours earlier than usually. The only requirements was to bring some bag. At school there was around 10 other boys at the same age as I was. We were talked to strip totally down and put all clothes in bags. Then we kept the bags in locker rooms, our hands were restrained behind the back and were led to minibus. Despite it was for 8 passengers only there was 12 boys or something like that.

The minibus drove around 50 minutes, and I can see the information table on the gate where we entered the final place- it was Scientific Institut of Medicine. It takes totally at least two days maybe more. I was naked all the time - from the moment when I came into the school until we come back.
When we came to the place I participated on medical checkup: weighting, measuring blood pressure, listening of hearth, neurological exam, and also check of penis with sliding of my foreskin over the glances. Then I lied on exam table got a mask and they gave me gas through the mask.



OVERVIEW OF THE PROCEDURE

Based on the synptoms afterwards and arrangements I guess some of these things happened: I had dental work. I had an exam or surgery in my stomach area. I had cystoscopy or other procedure through my urethra. I had an exam or procedure through my anus. They performed orthopedic surgery in my hip region. They performed orthopedic surgery at my arms or shoulders. They performed orthopedic surgery at my legs.
Definitely I had a surgery in stomach area because I find marks after surgery oh there. Also they probably done some etching in my mouth as I had very special feeling in mouth and neck. I had woken up with catheter both from anus and penis. I suppose also some procedures in this area. Reason was an d still is not known.

I do not know what the main procedure was. I believe that it was some secret operation to collect information about youth men.

ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE PROCEDURE

I had IV with some water in the vacuum over me. I had ECG electrodes on my chest hand and legs. No. I did have catheter and I was told that I can pee without hesitation and the pee is coming to some machine. I also had catheter into my anus. I had typical ECG electrodes, my hearth activity was measured when woken up. They checked me quickly. When I was
Woken up I was not in the bed. I lied on the floor in room like gym with mattresses on floor. There was around 70 other boys as me with electrodes IVs and catheters. No.


COMMENTS

This was a grand scale project for collecting extensive medical data on young boys. Probably the same happened to young girls. They took out tissue and body fluid samples and inspected all body areas internally with endoscopes through all natural body openings and openings made for the purpose.

The boys were held under general anesthesia some days where all this was done.

It is possible that the area had a grand scale program also to adjust the anantomy, body functions, emotions and behavior to strict standard set by the society. Even though Eastern Europe is most associated by such programs in the public opinion, I have materials suggesting that the western region is equally eager to perfom such programs on kids.

It looks that they sampled tissue or made adjustments especially in the great joints, the urinary system and the digestive system of the boys. The symptoms and the support for body functions applied on the boys suggest this conclusion.

These type of projects are not only history. They continue in steadily more societies around the world even more than before.

Knut Holt

http://www.abicana.com


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Boy, 16yo, NA, extensive internal exams and chastity effect experiments

I am male, it happened in North America, 2015 or later, when I was 13 and 16 years old. Was informed at school some days before the exam and a note was sent to parents.
The answers here are about the last exam when I was 16.

I was not allowed to eat some time before the exam. We went a special health center used for these type of exams om another part of the town. All 12 boys in my class went there for the exam by the bus from school. Also all other children in my school of the age group went there too.


ARRIVAL AND PRELIMINARY EXAMS

When arrived we had to undress in a sort of locker room and then sit down in a waiting room all completely naked.
I was totally naked through all the procedures to follow. Then we were called 3 at the time into different examination rooms. There a much standard exam was done weight and height

I had to sit and then lay on an examination table where the doctor listened to heart and lungs blood pressure was taken the doctor briefly examined my body and my genitals and last a urine and a blood sample was taken. This took maybe 15-20 minutes.

COMPUTERICED PSYCONEUROLOGICAL EXAM

After that I was taken into another room where I had to sit in a special chair and electrodes were put on my body. I was told I had to sit absolutely still so my arms and legs were strapped to the chair . Another doctor then asked me a lot of questions some rather weird questions I thought. This took about 30 minutes.


TAKEN TO ANOTHER PARTY OF THE BUILDING FOR MORE EXAMS

Then we had to wait in the waiting room until everyone was finished. After that I and 4 other boys were told we should be further examined and was taken to another part of the building still naked where the rest of the much more extended exam took place.


PHYSICAL CAPACITY TEST AND PREPRATIONS FOR THE FURTHER EXAMS

First they put electrodes on my body and I had to run on a threadmill with some kind of breathing mask over my mouth. After that I had to lay on a special examination table with a lot of devices around it.

There my arms and legs and body was strapped so I couldn't move and my legs were put in stirrups. Before I lay down on the table I got a pill that they told me was to keep me relaxed.

My stomach was cleaned out by a tube inserted into my anus that was connected to some pump and flush mashine.

I got IVs tubes into blood vessels in an arm. I got a device on a finger or a toe to measure pulse and oxygen in my blood. I got a blood pressure monitor wrapped around an arm or a leg. I got electrodes on my cheast. on my stomach or hip region, on my legs and on my head.

I got a tube or wire in through my urethra and my anus. I got some numbing and lubricating cream injected into my urinary opening and my anus.


EXAMINATION WITH EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT

They performed an ECG functional test of the heart function with electrodes on my chest and other body areas.They performed an analysis of my breathing and oxygen uptake where I had to breath into a tube. I had to do some physical work like cycling or running on a threadmill when the ECG and breathing analysis was performed.

They examined my head or neck with an ultrasound device or something similar, my upper body, my stomach area, my shoulder area with, my hip area and arms and legs with an ultrasound device or something similar.

They took x-ray pictures of my chest, stomach, shoulder area, hip area and my limbs.

They used electrodes to record functions inside my chest, my belly to record body functions and my limbs to record body functions.


They examined my genitals with an ultrasound device.They had electrodes at my genitals to record functions in this area.


OVERVIEW OF INTERNAL INSPECTIONS

They ispected the inside of my nose with a scope. They took specimens from my nose with a tube.They inspected the inside of my throut with a scope.They took specimens from my throut with a tube.

They inspected the inside of my urethra and bladder with a scope.They took specimens from my urethra with a tube.They took specimens from my bladder with a tube.

They inspected my anus with a speculum.They took specimens from my anus with a tube.They inspected me through my anus high up with a flexible scope.They inspected me through my anus with an ultrasound probe.The doctor explored my anus with a finger. I can't remember any other internal examinations but I'm not totally sure what they did.


THE EXTENSIVE EXAMINATIONS AS EXPERIENCED

The internal and external examinations here was very thorough and took very long time. I must have been in that room for at least 4-5 hours maybe longer. I was told I was going to stay at the center until the next day. Many different instruments were used and inserted both in my urethra and my anus.


ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE MAIN EXAM

I was told I would be part of an experiment to see how chastity would effect the results both in sports and studies. After all the examinations were done I was fitted with a metal chastity device which was locked in place.

I was probably put to sleep for a while. When I woke up I had the following arrangements in addition to the chastity device: I had IVs into blood vessels. I had electrodes on my head. I had electrodes on my body. I had catheter into my bladder. I had a tube going in through my anus. I lay with my legs in stirrups some time after the exam.

After I woke up I was still on the table for maybe an hour before all the equipment was removed except the catheter and the chastity device. I and the other 4 boys then got to sleep together in a room with hospital beds.

The next morning I was again taken to the examination room for some more tests. After a few hours we all were taken back to the locker room to get dressed and were picked up and taken back to school.


EXPERIMENTS ABOUT THE EFFECT OF CHASTITY ON STUDIES AND SPORT RESULTS

I was told the chastity device would be on for a month and the catheter would be in place for at least a week. Once a week I revisited the center for check-ups.

The catheter was removed after 2 weeks but after the month they decided to extend the experiment so I got to wear it for a full year, check ups once a month and when it was removed and sometimes I could ejaculate for sperm tests but sometimes not.


THE SCHOOL I ATTENDED

I attended private boarding school. A private boarding school specialized in sports.


COMMENTS

The core part of this ordeal is an extensive internationally standardized procedure done on kids all over the world. Some communities use it on all kids at certain ages, others on kids with special need or as part of research projects. The procedures also seems to be coordinated internationally and the results are also used for surveillance of the population of kids around the world. The procedure is generally held secret for the common population, even though it seems to be fairly common.

The procrdure is often extended by additional elements for research or to correct bodily deviations found on the kid examined. In this case a computerized psyconeurological test was done and a chastity experiment was initiated.

It is highly probable that some anatomical changes also were done in the rectum, lower colon, bladder or urethra of this boy dyring the procedure. Most probably they made him more open in order to give more regular urination and bowel movements to ease sport performance and to make it more easy to go inside to examine him. From other testamonials this seems often to be done with kids attending sport schools.

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