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Date Posted: 12:22:24 04/10/06 Mon
Anybody have any news on the winners of Stars Over Texas State Pageant today. -- Crowning should just about be over. Please share,
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Hannah won the ultimate grand. (NT) -- congrats,
not guearanteeing these are right but this is off top of my head...GS 0-2 Sara conner UGS 0-6 Landon, 3-5 GS Cassandra Shaw, 0-6 Mini Kamryn S, Overall Personality Mikayla S, Jiovani-division, Mia OA MB, Benji Grand Talent, Kyleigh-talent Addie-6yr div, Frankie-div (NT) -- all I can remember,
Some more titles: UGS 7 & up - Alexis M., Kate S. 7 & up Grand Talent, Alyssa W. 0-2 Div. Queen, Kileigh K. 0-5 Overall Congenialty, Kenzie W & Kailey W won some kind of Overall, I think. Faith S. won Overall Glitz, (NT) -- Not sure if these are right but this is what I remember, crowning was VERY confusing.,
Mini supreme- Asia M; 7-9 Maddie H; 10-12 Jordan H; 10 and up Grand Kate S. Star Ultimate Hannah; Glitz winners 10-12 Kate & Asia TIE; Alexis M 7-9; Cassandra S 5 yr; (NT) -- all I can remember,
Hi! Yes, Mia won O/A Most Beautiful and Division Photogenic....she had SO much fun! We can't wait until the next one! (NT) -- Jennifer & Mia Cantu, Sun
This pgt was a ridiculous farce, every child won a crown, there was no competition, It basically could have been drawn out of a hat,,,, It was $200+ spent for practice time on stage, and to purchase a crown, banner and toys. Honestly it was ridiculous. And yes I know its for the children but it is still a competition, Several of these children work to hard preparing to compete only to have all the titles divided..It was so obvious what should have went where I thought there was going to be a MOM mutiny... (NT) -- An Observer, And no I din't have a child in it, I was watching for several friends.,
This was advertsed as a total natural pageant no pageant cloths and no modeling, the score was on personality and stage projection. and yes I agree if you did not want to do this pageant maybe you should have stayed home. (NT) -- Don't bash children, you are bashing the winners by your post.,
Most rediculous pageant I have ever witnessed. Number one....They did not even give out divisional age group gifts. The glitzy girls busted....It was like minus points IF you knew how to model...UNLESS you knew Lucy. (NT) -- pp, Also an observer, it stated in the paper work NO EXPERIENCE NECESSARY, that means to modeling score in case you couldn't figure that out., if you did not want to do this pageant you should not have pd your money to do it. (NT) -- but it's wrong to take away from these girls win by posting such a post, all the contestants looks great, Congratulations to all the winners. And oh yes when you give out more awards then you have kids every child gets a crown.,
I agree. On top of that get this. Benji did an awesome dance rountine with a PARTNER. A duo at a one on one competition? Never seen that before. They introduced his partner not as a contestant but as his partner but, when he won talent so did his partner. She received a 10" crown just like the Overall Grand Supreme and was not even a contestant. How does that work? Pay $300 + not $200+ and have someone win a 10" crown with no fees paid. When did partner competition become part of the one on one competition. Or is this another of LUCY"S friends. WRONG! (NT)
Did you ask the director or this child if they pd if not what proof do you have that she did not do just talent only with Benji, I know for fact this pageant allows contestants to do talent only if they chose (NT) -- It would make no sense for the director to give away a 10" crown to a child who did not pay a dime. confirm this before assuming,
Benji and his partner split the prizes that were to be given to a single winner. Benji gave HIS crown to Emily and his banner. They split the cash down the middle. The parents split the talent entry fee. They entered as a single talent. Hope this clears things up. (Yes it was a Girls crown but it was the Grand talent crown). Thanks for asking. (NT) -- Benji's mOm, 19:34:23 04/09/06 Sun
that was very sweet of Benj, and yes they did an awesome job/ (NT) -- Congrats Benj! Great Job,
This pageant was not about the kids. Has anyone ever seen a pageant where you pay for Most Beautiful, Best Hair, etc and they do not give gifts to each age division. (NT) -- dd,
Did anyone get their scoresheets? (NT) -- curious?,
Yes, they did give them out about 15 minutes after crowning. (NT) -- hth,
Not knocking Benji his talent was great but I agree, There was no competition, And to the pereson who wrote about modeling not being part of the scoring ...who cares for overall stage presence and Poise yes It plays a big factor going towards those scores, You present yourself better and look better for overall appearance if you know what to do, so don't knock those kids that take the time out to learn to present themselves on stage.... Duh (NT) -- me,
I'm sorry, but please correct me if I'm wrong...are you saying there was no "competition" as in children there? Or do you mean there was no actual competition...whereas they basically just chose who got what and there was no real competition to try and earn it?? (NT) -- just trying to understand:),
The winners were way off in the 3-8 group IMO. Way off. (NT) -- Observer,
I was there too. Unbelievable. Lucy must have made a bundle. She did not even give side awards in age groups. Natural or not the gifts were nothing. Even the grands just received the contestant gifts. The overalls were getting $2.00. The director spent probably $300 on blankets and chairs. I have never seen a Pageant costing so much give so little. BAD BUSINESS! (NT) -- I was there,
Lucy is always about the kids, she has helt numerous pageants where she lost her shirt she gives what she says she will, if not enough contestants she does have to prorate, but I don't think that was the case today. (NT) -- I bet if you took this up with the director she would be more than happy to give your child a gift for best hair and best smile, ect. I did not think we paid for these.only the overalls and she did award them.,
I didn't have to ask the director about Benji's partner. She was introduced as Benji's Partner in Talent. You don't do that at one on one competition. The director didn't even know the little girls name and had to be tole with the introduction. Not taking away from Benji or his Mom. It was an awesome routine. BUT THIS IS ONE ON ONE COMPETITION! (NT) -- dd,
Lots of upset parents at this one today. I have never seen that many mad before & I have never seen so many crying kids either. So sad to see :( (NT) --
so the kids were crying because they did not get the crowns they wanted. please I was also there and I saw no crying and upset kids after crowning (NT) -- If you do not like this system stay home , no one says you have to come, but again you are taking away from the kids who won the titles today.,
Not sure WHY they were crying, but i saw it too! I am not the OP of the crying kids post either. (NT) -- .,
this was an all day pageant, and mostly small children did you ever think that they were just tired. (NT) -- small children have a rough time with an all day pageant and then crowning afterwards.,
I agree with the one that was talking about modeling. Everyone knew that modeling was not a score. What we obviously did not know is that if you could model you stood out as a quote "Glitz Pageant Kid" and it was obvious that this pageant wand to award titles to those who don't compete much. If it were about stage apperance, natural beauty and personality then Lucy did not draw out of the hat. She selectively picked her winner. (NT) -- I was there,
One thing I do agree on is I had the choice of whether or not to waste my money with this system and You are right I should have chosen not to, And for future reference anyone who ask about this system will be told not to do it, It is not a competition, Save your money buy your child a crown , banner and toy. As has been said It was not a competition, everyone and yes this means YOU knows who should have won what... It was only Way Too Obvious... Now lets be honest.... But congrats to all The children they all did a great job just by going on stage, You all did a super job. (NT) -- me, 19:20:37 04/09/06 Sun
OMG LOL!! I like your post!! I agree with you....EVERYONE won something...I just thought tmost were backwards lol! We won't be doing another Stars pageant either... (NT) -- ...., 19:22:54 04/09/06 Sun
This is another example as to why you don't use "mommy" judges or even relatives. (NT) -- observer, 19:22:25 04/09/06 Sun
there was only one mommy judge there the other two were not, and we have done numerous pageants with Rita Nelson judging and she has always been very fair in her judging and not bias. (NT) -- again sound to me like sour grapes, sorry your child did not get the title you think she deserved today., 19:27:25 04/09/06 Sun
I was there but my dd didn't compete so no sour grapes here. One judge was a "mommy" judge, one was a teenager from the Miss Teen system and the other one was Lucy's oldest daughter. (NT) -- FYI, 19:31:13 04/09/06 Sun
Excuse me..Lucy obviously picked her winners. I also agree about the divisional awards. I have never seen a pageant where age group optionals were not recognized..or could she not afford more $1 store shampoo? (NT) -- Who give adult shampoo to 0-6 children anyway? Come on people. What a joke., 19:24:05 04/09/06 Sun
Here's some of the answers I got (as i was confused also)...Titles in order were Star Ult. Grand, Ult. Grands, Grands, Mini Grands, Div. Supremes, Overalls, and Special Titles. It was difficualt to see what the judges were looking for by the winners, and yes, winners, all were so sweet today. I'd rather not comment on my opinions, but thought Id post this for a little more understanding of the title order. (NT) -- thought it was nice that all got a crown, banner and blanket anyway., 19:25:06 04/09/06 Sun
If that was the order, then it was REALLY backwards lol! I thought OVERALLS are just that. They're pulled...how can they be below a Queen? The more I think about this, the more upset I am becoming...argh! (NT) -- k, 19:29:55 04/09/06 Sun
YEP! That was the order, some were told as they registered and didn't pay for overalls because of that. (NT) -- Getting more angry won't help, LOL, just chalk it up to experience., 19:43:06 04/09/06 Sun
I did not understand why some of the lower titles crowns were much nicer that the upper titles, I think the overalls all but 2 were the lowest titles, but crowns for some were nicer than the grand supreme crowns. (NT) -- The order she went in she did flip flop back and forth from smaller crowns to larger crowns this was confusing., 19:44:57 04/09/06 Sun
How many overalls were there? (NT) -- ?, 19:46:24 04/09/06 Sun
On the paperwork or made up today? (NT) -- hth, 19:51:04 04/09/06 Sun
they were all on the paperwork there were no made up titles. (NT) -- why are you trying to start trouble?, 19:54:19 04/09/06 Sun
Overall Congeniality? I don't see that one anywhere. (NT) -- ., 19:56:36 04/09/06 Sun
This same thing happened at nationals last year in her glitz pageant!! My daughter got a congeniality award there were 3 given away then, we didn't even pay to enter that, nor was it on the paperwork. At least this won gave away division winners, national didn't, and her excuse was that everyone got a crown and that was considered an overall title and she didn't think that division needed to be won!!! Glad I learned my lesson the hard way!! (NT) -- Never again!!!, 20:26:38 04/09/06 Sun
What I meant was this was not a contest, the winnes were all just given a title... Pure Silliness, Should not be promoted as a Beauty Contest, More like a " pay and we'll take your money will make sure all kids get a Title and A prize" (NT) -- TTT, 19:26:08 04/09/06 Sun
so you are saying every system that advertises more titles and give out more titles then she has contestants. this is not a competition. (NT) -- Excuse me, I have been to numerous pageants where every child got a title and crown, so you are saying these are not competitions???so should directors have less titles, 19:31:21 04/09/06 Sun
I also have a suggestion DOn't take my money If you are wanting to give awards to kids that "don't compete much"... My child works hard for what she does,,And My suggestion to that poster is why would you want something given to your child and not earned... It is a Contest, Remember for anyone wanting to compete, And I would not want my child to be given anything Just because she doesn't compete much... (NT) -- ttt, 19:30:57 04/09/06 Sun
This was not a glitz pageant, although she had an optional glitz beauty division which was separate from everything else. (NT) -- Yes there were alot of none glitz children at this pageant just because everyone was on the same level here doesnot mean the winners were way off. In an natural pageant all kids are on the same level.You knew this coming in, 19:34:57 04/09/06 Sun
What about the little girl who kept refusing to go on stage pulling a GRAND title? (NT) -- Explain that one., 19:33:13 04/09/06 Sun
I have to say that I have never before seen such poor judging. I watched every child through out the day, my dd won a great title, but, as a mother I do have to say that she did not earn the title. As a parent is is almost embarrasing. I don't want anyone to bash my dd but the judging was so off. I personally scored the children, as a Grandparent even I have to admit things did not seem right. I saw girls up there absolutely beautiful, smiling happy little ones and I gave each contestant my own scores. I would not have choosen my OWN Grandaughter to receive the award she did. I do agree with the one that stated that the prizes were not age appropropiate and were much less than one would expect when paying the pageant fees. (NT) -- In fact the only winner that I chose that was right was the little boy. I think his name was Landin. He was precious and I did score him to win what he won. Otherwise either I or the system was way off., 19:34:03 04/09/06 Sun
I think your last sentence said it best, the little girl who did not want to go on stage was not judged until she actuallly got on stage and she final did get up there and did well. Maybe not well enough for a grand title but that was the judges decisions live with it. (NT) -- I guess the pageant kids did not do well at this natural pageant.? Then maybe you should stay with glitz., 19:40:17 04/09/06 Sun
This was the worst pageant I have ever seen. All the girls were great. However, I spoke to several of the parents and those who know Lucy won high titles. I have never been in a pageant that was so obviously fixed. (NT) -- and yes. the prizes, crowns, gifts were nothing compared to the money to enter, 19:41:39 04/09/06 Sun
you are being so childish, there were about 25 children at the pagent and lucy knew about 20 out of the 25 there weren't 20 top titles (NT) -- again this is sour grapes, sorry your child did not win the title you thought they should have won today., Just don't go back don't bash., 19:59:35 04/09/06 Sun
This exact same mess was up after her Nationals in Dec, which was horrible. Lucy is sweet, but we will not do her pageants, because they are just simply never fair (NT) -- I am sure all the girls were beautiful, but she needs to give everyone a fair shot at winning, 19:45:08 04/09/06 Sun
You are right but better yet how about stay whee there is a contest... You MOMS know yes you know what should have went where, Glitz or no glitz, Quit lying to yourselves and trying to make yourselves fell better, There was NO JUDGING the titles Were randomly given out... YOU know what your own eyes showed you on that stage... MY DD took that stage and did what should have been done, And yes she is the same age as yours... Think about it! (NT) -- ttt, 19:46:43 04/09/06 Sun
Since when does Overall Personality get the best crown? That crown was the prettiest one there. (NT) -- Way to go Mikaela!!!!!, 19:53:22 04/09/06 Sun
It was double the amount of other overall fees to enter the personality overall, thus the nice crown. Lots entered that particualr event. (NT) -- hth, 19:58:54 04/09/06 Sun
It was $20 to enter O/A Photogenic too (same as personality)....I think Savannah Jennings pulled that one. Was her crown as big? I can't recall?? (NT) -- k, 20:01:12 04/09/06 Sun
No Savannahs crown was NOT big at all. But the overall crowns were the same size as the Mini supremes figure that one out (NT) -- dd, 20:18:58 04/09/06 Sun
See, it would make sense for them to be the same size as the Mini's IF they were a higher title than division....I have NEVER seen a pageant place O/A'll's below division...EVER. (NT) -- ;, 20:21:38 04/09/06 Sun
she told everyone at registeration that was the overall personality crown, oh I do believe it was even taped to the back of the crown at registation for everyone to see. (NT) -- why can't she award the bigger crowns to this title if she so chooses, she told everyone up front when you pd for it., 20:05:23 04/09/06 Sun
I just ASKED....she never told us anything at registration..just took the entry form and the $$, that was it. I simply responded to the person that said it was double the $$ to enter personality, when in fact it was the same for photogenic that's all. (NT) -- :), 20:08:03 04/09/06 Sun
Why is this one title being questioned? Is this the one that was OFF? (NT) -- curious, 20:13:04 04/09/06 Sun
We did not know that if you knew how to model you were immediately pegged as a pageant kid. what about the naturally beautiful Pageant kids. Today several of the "pageant girls" showed wonderful stage presence, beauty and poise. There were about five pageant girls there that compete alot. They are all naturally beatiful, followed the guideline with no makeup, no fake hair, etc., butttttt their modeling ability obviously gave them away. (NT) -- If I were Kate,Asia, Kaylie,Geo or Savannah's parents I would not be happy tonight. All you girls did awesome as usual., 19:55:35 04/09/06 Sun
then how did Alexis M. win ultimate grand, she is very much a pageant kid. and she did a great job. as everyone else did. (NT) -- congrats Alexis,, 20:12:30 04/09/06 Sun
There were two madeup titles that I know that were not on the paperwork (NT) -- hows that, 19:58:29 04/09/06 Sun
which titles were these I must have missed that. (NT) -- nt, 20:07:08 04/09/06 Sun
Miss Congeniality 0-5 and 6 & up (NT) -- hth, 20:10:44 04/09/06 Sun
your right these were not on the paper work were they door entries? (NT) -- if so you did not have to entry it., 20:15:34 04/09/06 Sun
Not door entries either! (NT) -- never given the option to enter., 20:28:55 04/09/06 Sun
I agree with the post referencing Benji's talent and his parner. THAT WAS WRONG. I asked about his parnter after the competition and I was just told she was just doing a routine with him and not competing. I could not believe the crown a non-paying contestant won. I also cannot believe that Lucy would let a talent partner in on a one on one competition. (NT) -- Lucy I will never do one of your pageants again and will spread the news dont offer glitz, 20:05:59 04/09/06 Sun
she did not win the crown Benji did., did you not see where Benji gave her the crown. (NT) -- I don't agree with Lucy allowing this as it should have been a one on one competition. I have never heard of this before either. Guess next time ask and make sure it is a one on one talent competition, 20:10:27 04/09/06 Sun
As for Savannah J's Overall Photogenic Crown I do recall, And NO it was not as big.... Hmmm what answer do we have now??? (NT) -- ttt, 20:07:11 04/09/06 Sun
None of the crowns that I could tell were "equal", so no answers to that either (NT) -- even Div. crowns were not the same, 20:16:50 04/09/06 Sun
how petty if you do not like the crown your child got I suggest you call the director and take it up with her (NT) -- what do you want custom designed 10-15 " crowns ., 20:23:28 04/09/06 Sun
This was a state pageant, not a Nationals or mini nationals, all the crowns were nice crowns very well made not flimze little cheap crowns. (NT) -- gee moms get a grip, 20:26:01 04/09/06 Sun
That's what you think. For the price you paid you should have gotten better crowns. (NT) -- someone who knows, 20:34:08 04/09/06 Sun
This was a natural pageant. You could tell who knew how to model and who did not. I noticed that the young ladies that could model did not win the higher titles. My child did. I did not think this was right. Not because my child isn't beautiful but because she did not smile much. There were three girls in her age group that were as beautiful as she but smiled and really did a better job. I only do natural pageants with my daughter but felt wronged by her winning because I did not believe she deserved it. I hate that this discussion is happening but I wanted to let all the Moms of the other girls know that some of the winners parents knew that we should not have won and think your girls are great. (NT) -- Natural Pageant Mom, 20:11:27 04/09/06 Sun
It sickens me to see how parents react. Get a grip. If you don't like it, don't compete. Simple as that. Paperwork says natural no experience. Some who may have done glitzy that does not mean they will win. This is NATURAL! It doesn't mean a touched up photo will win. It means NATURAL!!! Bad sportsmanship is EXACTLY what most of you are displaying. Set a better example for your children. Score sheets were given out?? Why not read & askin private. Don't bash these children & this director who does her best at trying to make things right. I really didn't see any child there upset. Hmmmm!!! I was happy with what my child received. But not because of the title or crown but because of the smile on her face.That's what makes me happy. That precious smile & the running into my arms saying look mommy what I have. I WILL NEVER TAKE THAT SMILE AWAY FROM HER just because it wasn't what someone else expected she should have won. (NT) -- I will never bash a child for anything. Friendships & happiness are much more important. Parents posting these childish comments SHOULD NOT DO PAGEANTS! Find another hobby! It will do everyone you hurt a world of good to get out.....Grateful Mom for My childs win!!! Thank you Miss Lucy!!!, 20:13:03 04/09/06 Sun
Thank you, very well said. I agree if you can't take the heat and not bash don't do pageants. (NT) -- Congrats to all the winners, and thank you Lucy for a very nice pageant., 20:20:21 04/09/06 Sun
You know I am TRULY happy with my DD's title today! If I could have picked one, it would have been this one...HOWEVER I do think something was fishy....I paid the $200, so I feel I have the right to voice my opinion. Sure, GRANDS would have been NICE.....however I feel my daughter won what she deserved. I did however see others get jipped, a nd can completely understand they're right to be upset. (NT) -- k, 20:25:08 04/09/06 Sun
Reply to Grateful Mom: You must have a child that won big. Good friends with Lucy? This conversation is about what is fair. Our children only see the wins, we are most certainly positive to them, but we are the ones paying the fees to joke pageants like this. Yes we will neve do another of Lucy's pageants, but we will also make sure that as many that can read this will not either. It was a JOKE! (NT) -- Lucy made money, that is her business, but don't even go there about her being about the kids because this pageant was FIXED. Done many pageant before and will continus. Never in 4 years of Pageantry have I ever seen such a poor excuse for a State pageant., 20:25:15 04/09/06 Sun
I know Lucy very well, and my daughter did her pageant for about 10 yrs. It took my daughter 9 yrs. to win a grand supreme title at her pageants, if she was not fair, and hand picked her winners my daughter would have won grand supreme a whole lot sooner and more often. (NT) -- I know Lucy is fair and goes strickly by the judges scores, yes maybe your choice of judges could sometime be better but don't incenuate she is not a fair director., 20:32:50 04/09/06 Sun
So sorry to bust your bubble but no, she did not win big. No, we are not buddy-buddy with the director. I have her scores and I take the comments as useful and something we can use for the next time. Fair, yes I believe that. That is my opinion. My child was happy and if you think that pageants are for the adults your are wrong. Pageants are for the kids, not the parents. They are the ones who do the work. No wonder pageant moms hate each other. This is crazy. Don't spend your hard earned money if you don't feel "honored" to have a Grand Title. Take it elsewhere because you and those who bash are not the parents we want our children around. I for one DO NOT. I want my child to still have that smile on her face no matter what she wins or doesn't win. I teach good sportsmanship, morals and no matter what happens she did a great job and to be happy with herself. I will NEVER bash (NT) -- & if I WILL NEVER say a director is not fair. I don't judge people no matter who they are, what people say about them or what happened in the past. I do my best to look for the good in everyone. I can't find good in some of these posts. That is SAD!!.....Thank you again for making my daughter happy., 22:26:34 04/09/06 Sun
This pageant was absolutely ridiculous. The winners were WAY OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!! All the girls did great, but I know a lot of moms that are going home excited about their GRAND or MINI titles that know their child did not deserve, or should I not say it like that. They know another child is more deserving. Not mentioning any names, You know who you are...... (NT) -- DD, 20:25:25 04/09/06 Sun
again this is total nonsense, get over it, so your child did not win today, maybe you should find another hobby, (NT) -- sore grapes have no room in pageants., 20:36:25 04/09/06 Sun
Lucy get into another business. Too many strikes. (NT) -- One who knows it all, 20:31:30 04/09/06 Sun
Benji your talent was awesome. Do you need another partner. Love to win a pageant without paying fees. (NT) -- Got that Lucy, 20:34:04 04/09/06 Sun
I do have to agree on that one. Cute little girl but why do we have to pay? A nice token Lucy but we would all love to compete for free. (NT) -- Not a happy parent, 20:35:54 04/09/06 Sun
Hey mad moms, let ME point out something please. What I am reading sounds like you think only the glitz kids know "how to model". Let me explain something. It's not that the natural kids don't know how, it's that they are modeling the "natural way". There are different styles of pageant modeling. Natural modeling should be just that- NATURAL!! Being overly poised with the cutsy head tilts, the raised eyebrows, the shoulder to chin move, etc. etc.- those are all glitz skills, they are not NATURAL. Our kids don't walk and move like that in their natural gait. I understand modeling was not supposed to be scored, but the paperwork said they were looking for "all natural girl and boy" and that is who the judges were told to pick. So yes, if your child was on stage doing "glitz" modeling, she would have scored lower. I like natural AND glitz, but this was a NATURAL pageant. (NT) -- pm, 20:36:31 04/09/06 Sun
So are saying all the girls/boys who won Grand and Mini did not deserve it?? (NT) -- ?, 20:37:18 04/09/06 Sun
Yes, please answer, are you saying NONE of the grands deserved their titles? (NT) -- inquiring mom, 21:13:20 04/09/06 Sun
All I'm saying the little boy Deserved his title. (NT) -- pm, 21:39:36 04/09/06 Sun
AND I want to point out something else. To those griping about Benji having a partner- what about all those BABIES whose moms go on stage with them for their so-called talents to try to coax them to "perform" and some even with matching costumes and taking part in the "act". Why aren't any of you complaining about that??? Oh yeah, because they didn't win a big crown. At least Benji's routine was a real talent. Congrats to him and his pretty partner. (NT) -- pm, 20:40:38 04/09/06 Sun
The paperwork states that Modeling is YOUR choice. There was NO MODELING score. It was Poise/PERSONALITY; stage presence; and overall appearance. The debate is that for those who were there and watched the pageant, the Winners were not consistently any type of "standard". There were kids who DID model who won and then there were those who barely took the stage and did not smile much who took higher titles than kids who had more STAGE Presence. For 3 judges to pick SO MANY different types from all the different age groups made it hard to know what they were looking for or were counting off for. (NT) -- It was suppose to be about FACIAL BEAUTY; STAGE PRESENCE; and OVERALL APPEARANCE., 20:52:44 04/09/06 Sun
Let me explain something. Modeling was not to be scored period. That means if our kids modeled and your kids wondered around the stage they should have both been judged equally for their NATURAL beauty. No where in the paperwork did it say that if you could model you were out. Come on lady....you saw the pageant..... (NT) -- It Lucy does not want Glitz girls then she is going about this correctly., 20:43:12 04/09/06 Sun
Those babies have to have Mom on stage number one. Number two...It was a talent and costume contest..... (NT) -- Those with babies did cute original costume ideas, they can't do talent, their babies, HELLO!, 20:46:28 04/09/06 Sun
Does anyone know the last name of the 0-5 overall congeniality winner? -- Just Curious, 20:47:37 04/09/06 Sun
Kyle (NT) -- hth, 20:49:48 04/09/06 Sun
Thank you very much to you!!! Am I suppose to leave my baby ALONE on the stage??? They are BABIES!!!! (NT) -- pm, 20:50:45 04/09/06 Sun
ok now you are getting really low attacking the babies., these are babies., (NT) -- whats wrong is when moms stand nehind the judges and do the childs whole pro am routine for them I've seen this in the 4-6 and up group, 20:54:03 04/09/06 Sun
I agree. You cannot say that those Mom's with those little babies did not do a great job with their costumes. Nobody is saying that Benji did not do an awesome performance. However, has anyone ever seen a pageant contestant have a PARTNER? Has anyone ever seen a non paying PARTNER win the crown the same size and the UNTIMATE GRAND? (NT) -- Benji, Baby Kenzie and Baby Sara Elizabeth all had great ideas/talent/costumes. Know what your talking about or get off the board., 20:51:24 04/09/06 Sun
Was not there but I would like to know what great costumes they had?? (NT) -- Just wondering since they were really great! Thanks, 20:55:21 04/09/06 Sun
Kenzie was "Tweety Bird" and set inside a feather decorated cage and she also was a chef cooking spaghetti for "On top of Spaghetti. Sara did 5 monkeys and Splish splash.... (NT) -- really cute ideas, 21:00:16 04/09/06 Sun
Alright! Alright! Let start with Benji. I saw the little girl’s parents split the entry with Benji’s mom. I also saw Benji and the girl talking about if they win, He is going to give her the crown and he was going to take the banner and split everything else. Why shouldn’t Benji win a crown he paid for and give to whoever he wants??? The big crown was for The Talent winner.As for the winners I understand what people are talking about. It did say Natural! I think some of the kids really looked glitz. As for Landon and the Alexia they were right on the money! The little boy did a really good job. (NT) -- I thought is was a all right pageant. Some of the wiiners were off., 21:00:53 04/09/06 Sun
What glitz kids didn't win that did good today that is making eveyone upset (NT) -- Just interested!, 21:03:30 04/09/06 Sun
It isn't one child that didn't win, it is the whole pageant as an experience. Everyone has an off day and several I thought were having one but the whole crowning was so confusing. The only part that was great was when Miss Teen Nacogdoches sang, boy does she have a voice. (NT) -- Good luck to Rachel in Miss Teen Texas, 21:08:11 04/09/06 Sun
there were no hair peices or make up allowed in the natural pageant. (NT) -- nt, 21:15:55 04/09/06 Sun
BOY i am confused now, Are you saying thee where children there with NO makeup, No hairpieces, In a Sunday Best dress with no stones and they still looked glitz, That doesnt make sense . (NT) -- ttt, 21:08:16 04/09/06 Sun
You can still look glitz with out all of that..Modeling, Dress, and poise. Can't explain bot getting a crown, but they both did a great job! (NT) -- Congrats to everyone that won!, 21:18:05 04/09/06 Sun
Well can we split the money now and have two contests win. Benji got is crown, his partner got her corwn...HELLO...still one contestant. (NT) -- You figure it out, 21:09:57 04/09/06 Sun
The glitz pageant part was a $65 JOKE. The prizes for the divisional winners was $1 hair product for adults. It was obcious if the child could model they were glitz kids and obvious also that scores reflected this (NT) -- If modeling does not count why cant our girls get on stage and still do there practiced modeling following all the non-glitz attire and guidelines., 21:14:33 04/09/06 Sun
Wow...I have been reading the board. Kenzie Wiatrek won Overall Miss Congeniatly and Kaylie Wiatrek Won Overall BEST HAIR, both of these crowned titles were not in the paperwork.....Does that tell me that both of my dd's won the lowest titles possible in this pageant? (NT) -- Mammy, 21:18:51 04/09/06 Sun
Which age groups do you think were the most off? Throw modeling completly out as is stated in paperwork and tell who you would have picked for each group... (NT) -- Let's see how the "Parent/audience" vote compares to the "Judges", 21:20:16 04/09/06 Sun
you are just trying to start trouble. let the winners enjoy their wins. (NT) -- this is not fair for the children that won., 21:23:54 04/09/06 Sun
Here is a funny one, @ years ago we went to state for this system and won a nice set of paper plates, YES an 8 pic of paper birthday plates,, We learned our lesson that year,,, (NT) -- Should not be advertised as a State pgt, more like a fun little tiny small practice pageant,, 21:21:33 04/09/06 Sun
It also looks like having a creative idea for costume for a baby is questionable as Kenzie did Tweetie Bird and On Top of spegettie with her Mom of course because she is only 14 months old. (NT) -- Mammy, 21:23:05 04/09/06 Sun
I would love to give my predictions however, I will never put down another child. (NT) -- It was Lucy who made the mistakes, if we have to bash, bash Stars Over USA, 21:26:25 04/09/06 Sun
I totally agree, DON'T bash the children who won just bash the system for not being fair. (NT) -- Congratulations to all the winners!!, 21:32:37 04/09/06 Sun
Mammy wants to congratulate Little Mister Landon and Miss Sarah Elizabeth (NT) -- You are both my Doll Babies, 21:28:37 04/09/06 Sun
Thank you so very much Mammy, you are THE BEST Mammy!! Congratulations to Kenzie and Kaylie also, they did an awesome job today!! And Landon, you are just "Our Little Man"!!! (NT) -- Sarah-Elizabeth Conner and Susan, 21:31:46 04/09/06 Sun
Thanks Susan...But according to the judging I believe they won the lowest title possible. Actually it looks like the pageant director made up the titles to crown them (NT) -- Mammy, 21:36:13 04/09/06 Sun
If they are making up titles to give away, Why did the little boy win two titles? (NT) -- Wondering!, 21:41:45 04/09/06 Sun
Hey I saw both Kenzie and Kaylee on stage today. Most rediculous titles. Mammy and Mom do NOT get you down. Both of those girls are georgous. Kaylie was awesome as usual and the baby smiled and even laughed on stage. Do not let this get you down. The judging was WRONG! Your two girls are those that I have been talking about when I talk about the Glitz girls not winning. I can imagine how you both are feeling but the entire judging process was rediculous. I hope you see that and don't get discouraged. You both are great people and the girls are BEAUTIFUL! (NT) -- A Pageant Friend who love to see K & K on stage!, 21:42:20 04/09/06 Sun
I agree these are two beautiful little girls, they should have won a highter title, however that baby group was really a tuff group and hard to call. (NT) -- I loved watching them., 21:47:44 04/09/06 Sun
I;ve caught bits and pieces throughout this enormus post does anyone have a complete list the the winners. (NT) -- if so please post., 21:50:25 04/09/06 Sun
Everyone is so confused they can't remember all the names and Ms. Lucy must not be home yet. (NT) -- hth, 21:55:33 04/09/06 Sun
Miss Lucy I hope you read all this when you get home (NT) -- I cannot believe what I am reading. Prizes. Titles. Duo Talent. What are you thinking. And what about these "FRIENDS" whose kids got titles. Is that how you get kids to Nationals?, 22:05:20 04/09/06 Sun
I don't agree on the duo talent I too thought the talent should be and was always one on one , bad call on the directors part, but the friends winning , who were the friends that won? I don't understand this at all (NT) -- what do you mean friends winning, 22:16:18 04/09/06 Sun
Who is Hannah...the top winner? (NT) -- ????, 22:06:42 04/09/06 Sun
this is the first time I have seen her, but she is a very lovely girl , (NT) -- I don't think she is a glitz pageant child but read the paper work folks it was a natural pageant., 22:19:13 04/09/06 Sun
IVE SEEN THIS LITTLE GIRL AT ANOTHER PAGEANT I BELIEVE IF IT IS WHO I THINK IT IS SHE IS ONE OF KENDALLS STUDENTS (NT) -- SHE DOESNT DO OUR GLITZ PAGEANTS BUT SHE DOES SO NATURAL PAGEANTS, 22:21:48 04/09/06 Sun
Doesn't it say above that Benji won the crown and gave it to his partner? That means he got one but gave it to the girl. That means there was only 1 crown. What difference does it make? If he was the one being judged. This is the most rediculous post I've seen in a while. Did the paperwork say there would be gifts for division awards? If not, then stop griping. SINCE WHEN IS IT A BAD THING FOR A DIRECTOR TO ADD TITLES????? Oh My God! Listen to yourselves. What a bunch of crybabies!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (NT) -- GET A REAL LIFE, 22:32:56 04/09/06 Sun
I think Lucy has alot of explaining to do. Expecially allowing Benji to have a partner in Talent. That should never be allowed in one on one competition. And the fact that both Benji and his partner were crowned. What are you thinking Lucy?????Try that at Nationals HAHA...... (NT) -- Your Glitz portion was a JOKE and you should give all those who competed their money back, 22:14:20 04/09/06 Sun
there were only about 8 that entered glitz it was a separate event from the natural pageant, she named age division glitz and then an over all glitz. (NT) -- no one was required to enter this and the smart moms didn't, 22:23:10 04/09/06 Sun
I think that everyone who competed in the talent should get a refund to. You cannot compete with a partner in a pageant. Every contestant gets an individual score. This is the biggest VIOLATION of pageantry I have ever heard of. If your (as I did) paid for Talent of Costume we need to DEMAND a refund. Otherwise we were robbed. (NT) -- I will be the first to email her!, 22:25:12 04/09/06 Sun
That is CRAP!!! No refund! I saw a lot of parents dress up with there kids in costume. They hade “partners” . Benji Deserved his win! It showed off his ball room dancing!!!!!!! Also I ask Lucy what did the winner for glitz wear get, she told me. We didn’t enter. Did you ask? If not to bad! Always ask the director the awards and you wouldn’t have to come on the board and be mad!! (NT) -- Pageant mom at Stars to day!!, 22:32:26 04/09/06 Sun
I think everyone has made their point, this was a mistake in the directors part and I don't think she will ever do that again. But what is done is done, (NT) -- get over it people. I saw something like this before at Lucy's pageant yrs ago a little girl did this awesome magic act and she ask for a volunteer from the audiance for one of the tricks no one complained about that., 22:37:29 04/09/06 Sun
Excuse me the smart Moms didn't enter their children in Glitz. Does that mean those who did were not aware of the $$$ robbery. Again if you entered Glitz or Talent I would DEMAND your money back. Otherwise maybe we should continue and get email info and combine together to get refunds. Lucy too many mistakes were made today and too many parents are angry. All the children who entered talent and glitz competition were wronged. (NT) -- Anyone inteterested in persuing post!, 22:30:15 04/09/06 Sun
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