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should be writing my thesis but ...

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Date Posted: 14:12:22 02/22/02 Fri
Author Host/IP: molten-ext.nus.edu.sg/137.132.3.10
In reply to: Darren 's message, "Mmmm...Cheekan...." on 17:32:12 02/03/02 Sun

this is not an argument about being pro vegetable and anti-meat or pro-animal anti-human. i think it is important for us to see that there are quite a few processes before a chicken comes clean and plucked to the supermarket.

I've seen people cry watching a chicken slaughtered (and it's not because they love birds or are even vegetarian!). Sure, killing is quite brutal to see but do pple cry when they see a zebra being brought down by a lion? we don't see the blood the gore etc etc., wathcing discovery channel doesn't count. we just take it for granted that 'that's the way things are'.

You're right in pointiing out that its almost a racketeering business out there but it only perpetuates itself because there are consumers who are blissfully ignorant (or choose not to know).

Right: not all farms are like that. Do you know which ones are and which ones aren't? (Eg. Australian vs Europena Beef) Would it really make a difference to your pattern of consumption? (Chicken is chicken, right?) where does all our produce come from? what goes into the chicken (hormones? what kind of feed? possibility of CJD jumping the species?)or even our milk (do you really care if you're drinking real milk or reconstituted milk? What's the difference? did you check--hint: check FERNLEAF "FULL CREAM"). It's precisely questions like that which are answered when things like Mad Cow disease come up.which is too late.

Yeah so we know the things that drive consumption itself are excessive and exploitative. but i feel that the consumer does have a choice (Cliche!) and a right to know (cliche again!).

>1) Not all farms work like that.
>
>2) If the world went vegan, veggie planting would also
>usurp the environment through mass production. (Lots
>more oxygen, but soil will go fast too.
>
>3) Terminator seeds
>
>4) Survival of the fittest. They may be god's
>creations etc but animals eat animals. It is not
>cruelty, it is survival. Humans are by biology
>omnivorous.
>
>5) this has nothing to do with switching diets and
>everything to do with bad / cruel management for
>profiteering.
>
>6) And perspective. Who says plants don't have
>feelings? ;-p
>
>Mmmmm, beef....

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