In sympathy,
Erica
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RIP Pat Kavanagh -- Simon Bowden, 17:22:29 10/20/08 Mon
Condolences to Mr Barnes
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Nothing to be frightened of -- T.F Reynolds (Disapponted), 22:59:54 10/22/08 Wed
There may well be a short article in this book - lots of repetetive filler -so sad to hate all one's family and be so glib and so lacking in substance. Struck me as someone unloved and unloving - all downhill from the opening sentence.
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A History of the World in 10 1/2 Chapters -- Linda Burton, 16:48:41 10/17/08 Fri
I am trying to figure out what "dragonfly mistake" (p. 236) means. Is it possibly an English/American thing like squeezed flannel possibly meaning a wet washrag?
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NO! The Genetic connection is not there. -- Ted Christopher, 18:50:42 10/13/08 Mon
I saw your assessment in an NYT book review. The assessment reads,
“Individualism — the triumph of free-thinking artists and scientists — has led to a state of self-awareness in which we can now view ourselves as units of genetic obedience.”
This is may sound profound. This certainly sounds scientific. It also wrong - wholesale wrong.
Here is a quote from an NYT article (Sept. 16, 2008) entitled "A dissenting voice as the genome is sifted to fight disease" in which a geneticist David B. Goldstein belatedly acknowledges the following,
"It's an astounding thing that we have cracked the human genome and can look at the entire complement of common genetic variants, and what do we find? Almost nothing. That is absolutely beyond belief."
They have found almost no connection between common variations in genes (the protein-defining subset of the DNA) and the susceptibility to common diseases.
Secondly in the Oct. Sci. American there is an article entitled "The search for intelligence" which reveals findings from a rather thorough look (half a million SNPs) at the correlations between variations in DNA and variations in human intelligence. They found only one DNA variation with a statistically significant impact on intelligence and "it accounted for 0.4 percent of the variation in the [intelligence] scores. And to cap it all off, no one knew what the gene does in the body."
The intellectual bedrock of the scientific or materialist position - that we are a bunch of DNA programmed biomolecular robots - is in fact getting the snot beaten out of it upon examination. It is worth noting that there has been a long-apparent rebut to genetic determinism that has been largely dodged. The rebut is of course the remarkable divergence of monozygotic twins in terms of their personalities (see the book "No Two Alike") and their health and longevity (see the Aug. 31 2006 NYT article "Live long? Die Young? Answer isn't just in your genes." by Gina Kolata).
The bio-robot model is a bust. It might be good to investigate the mysteries of life - many of which science won't even peek at - and see if there is perhaps more to it.
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A letter to Mr. Barnes -- Richard L. Aronstein, 10:09:41 09/30/08 Tue
I would like to send a personal letter to JB, or electronically if not. I believe I may be able to assist him with at least one of the issues he raised in NTBFO and in his interview by Bob Edwards, which I heard this past weekend on NPR. I am a very old American lawyer with similar experiences and concerns to which I believe I have found answers.
Postal address? JB's e-mail address?
Thank you.
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death -- eugene krasnow md, 09:37:59 10/05/08 Sun
Julian Barnes; The fear has nothing to do with G-d. It has to do with the loss of the future and whatever hope one has for good things ahead. gene krasnow
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Suggestion -- Jordan, 06:29:05 09/23/08 Tue
Julian,
About death, Robinson Jeffers' "The Bed by The Window" sounds the right note. It works for me, at any rate.
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Heaven vs. Hell -- Cheryl, 21:06:47 07/23/08 Wed
I heard a bit on NPR about a story where a man thinks he has died and gone to heaven but after a few days, he realizes that he is actually in hell. Does anyone know the name of the story?
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Gillian-Oliver-Stuart -- Marcus Moore (Frustrated), 04:37:49 09/08/08 Mon
Having written two great novels serial style, always leaving one with a thirst for the next instalment, is Julian Barnes the ultimate sadist making us wait till 2011 for the sequel to 'Love, etc.' and 'Talking it over'?
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appearance in UK -- Laetitia, 12:56:13 09/08/08 Mon
Do you know if Julian Barnes will make an appearance in London?
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doyle quote -- Andy Aligne (curious), 10:42:31 09/04/08 Thu
In Arthur and George, Conan Doyle is quoted as saying "about the writer's responsibilities: they are firstly, to be intelligible, secondly, to be interesting, and thirdly, to be clever."
What is the source for this quote?
Is it made up by Barnes?
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A History of the World in 10 1/2 Chapters -- Gillian, 04:41:39 09/02/06 Sat
My Upper-Sixth form has enjoyed reading this. Yesterday we were discussing Chapter 10 and the question arose as to why Hitler was the arch "bad guy" who was observed from behind bushes. Why not Stalin or Mao who both had similar atrocities committed in their names?
Has anyone any ideas?
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Help! -- Matias, 13:32:09 07/10/08 Thu
Hi! I'm from Argentina and reading a book by Julian Barnes for the first time. I started with 'England, England' -was the character of Sir Jack inspired on Sir Alan Sugar?-. Never mind, as my mother tongue is Spanish, I find some difficulties with vocabulary... no to mention acronyms! Would someone be so kind as to say me what "T... N... P!" means?
Thanks! I will keep reading.
All the best,
Matias Casano
Buenos Aires, Argentina
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"Nothing to be Frightened Of" -- Erica Hateley, 20:35:15 03/14/08 Fri
Okay, so due to time-management (or lack thereof) issues, I've only read the first 95 pages, but I'm loving it!
Rather than viewing it as an autobiography--which despite JB's resistance to--was a possibility for me, I think (at least so far) it's more of a literary autobiography. That is, if you're familiar with Barnes's earlier works, there are a number of connections that emerge here and there in "Nothing". Also, it has the added bonus for me of being a meditation on mortality undertaken by a speaker who is at the least Agnostic. As an athiest, I find these issues fascinating, particularly as I view them without the optimism of an Other Force/Presence/Organising Principle at play in the universe.
I'd love to hear what people think of the book, so far, or in completion!
Cheers,
Erica
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polar bears -- luke kelly, 15:17:53 06/05/08 Thu
In Flaubert's Parrot, Geoffrey Braithwaite suggests that polar bears cannot be tamed. This article suggests that they were tamed in the past: http://www.icelandreview.com/icelandreview/daily_news/?cat_id=16539&ew_0_a_id=307177
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Nothing to be frightened of -- Theo Veenhof, Almere, Netherlands, 06:56:58 05/15/08 Thu
Dear Mr. Barnes,
On page 50 of "Nothing to be frightened of" you mention a "temperature [that] often rises to 20 degrees". could this possibly be 20 degrees Réaumur, which would equal 25 degrees Celcius? 20 degrees Celsius is a fine temperature for a room, 25 degrees is unpleasantly hot...
I am really enjoying your new book!
Kindest regards,
Theo Veenhof
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Nothing to be frightened of -- Tony Sandy, 06:54:42 03/18/08 Tue
I don't think athiests can claim to feel wonder as this is a religious reaction to life - worshipping at the altar of existence. Atheism is dispassionate, nuetral and therefore outside the world of emotion - when it enters it, it becomes by definition spiritual or religious in experience.
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Arthur & George -- Beverly Fox Martin, 09:01:46 02/04/06 Sat
Thank you, Mr. Barnes, for writing Arthur & George. Your eloquent prose reminded me very much of the tenacious and precise writing of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle himself. It was very compelling for me to be driven, once again, on a twisting textual journey by such an outstanding word weaver! I was sorry to have the tale come to its inevitable end. I look forward to reading more of your work. Most sincerely, Beverly Martin
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'People say life is the thing; but I prefer reading'.... -- Bianca, 09:37:05 03/23/07 Fri
I'll be joining the camp of message posters who are writing a dissertation, hoping that you enthusiasts will have an educated nibble at a dangled question...
I am looking at 'Flaubert's Parrot' and the statement it makes on the relationship between literature and the reader. Does it promote empathy, insight and a sense of life's possibilities? Or is it a ghetto for saddos who can't cope with the intimacies and complexities of real life? Although packaged up to sound more academic, naturally. Any resources or ramblings you'd care to supply would be received with rapture...
How do you suppose one would actually be able to angle a conversation with Barnes, short of stalking? Is it worth sampling the delights of Swindon to see him at a literary festival I wonder? Musings on this subject, welcome too.
Many thanks.
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Oblivion -- Ron Fox (Apprehensive), 02:33:44 03/19/08 Wed
Good morning,
My interest in J.B's work stems from our mutual fear of death.I first heard of J's "condition" some years ago,on R4.It prompted me to buy a book of his short stories,title escapes me,but I've read nothing else by him.I shall be reading "Nothing To Be Afraid Of".I'm catching bits of it on the radio.
What I'm working round to is this, I shall be 61 in a few days time & as a younger man I used to think,"if I live long enough I'll get used to the fact of death & come to terms with it". This doesn't seem to be happening,the only comfort & it's cold,that I am able to take,is that so many people have coped with the event already.
Ron Fox.
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Title -- Ron Fox (Apologetic), 02:43:47 03/19/08 Wed
Sorry, I meant " NOTHING TO BE FRIGHTENED OF " in my previous post.
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Heard the first extract on Radio 4 -- jerome kiel (Enthusiastically inspired!), 10:23:44 03/18/08 Tue
As a writer and mature OU student, when I heard the first extract today, I recognised some of the brilliantly thought out techniques which we learnt in Creative Writing last year.
This year, although still writing short stories and poetry, I'm doing Humanities, a concoction of Art History, Literature,Philosophy,Religion,Science, Architecture,History and so on. This book, curiously, seems to promise covering some of those subjects for me, but in a wonderfully enjoyable way. I look forward to my own copy when it gets here from Waterstones.com in the next day or so. Yippee!
Until today, I hadn't heard of Mr. Barnes.
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Death Book -- David Heinaman, 14:04:44 03/04/08 Tue
I'm your age and trained as a scientist and mathematician. I found your comments about Darwinism enlightening, but what if Darwin is wrong? Consider Michael Behe, The Edge of Evolution.
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MC&HNY!!! -- Irina, 06:28:39 12/24/07 Mon
Dear friends!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all JB's readers and to our great author and his famaly of course!
Be happy in your countries and read good books!
With the best wishes from Moscow,
Irina.
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Story of Mats Israelson -- Irina (Dear friends! Dear Mr. Barnes!), 00:05:44 12/14/07 Fri
The first time I met the author while reading his Story of Mats Israelson.
I thought he is Swedish because he told a very beautiful love story happened in Sweden. Then I found out he is English and wrote many other things. I have read almost all of them and I like them very much, but you know The Story of Mats Israelson was like "coup de foudre", love at the first sight, which you can’t forget.
Irina, Moscow.
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Good prose -- Pam, 12:30:07 07/01/07 Sun
I've just finished redaing "Love, ect." and keep on wondering where are all the good writers? I find this book so superficial & boring (with some rare good passages) that I had to resist temptation to throw it right away. I love literature but really struggle to lay my hands on some decent British writer. Sorry, if I am too straightforward, but I guess I am entitled to my opinion. The question that haunts me is the following one - "Are the writers deliberately write all sorts of rubbish books to cater to mass market or they just do not see what rubbish they produce?" Why forty plus dissapointed & cynical ladies march along the pages in thier droves? Is that such an exciting character to work on? What's the message behind? On the second thoughts - give me Golsworthy any day. Probably, I'd better stop buying modern writers.
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Arthur and George -- Michael (satisfied), 16:57:55 10/22/07 Mon
At the end of a visit to Paris, I picked up a copy of "Arthur and George" in the airport bookstore - I had never heard of the author, but the cover was appealing, at least when compared to the rest - and read it on the flight to New York.
I was very lucky in my choice - What a wonderful book!
I especially enjoyed the clever and craftful melding of fiction and history. There was never an awkward moment in the writing - unless the final peculiar bit in the Albert Hall...although that was as memorable as the rest.
I intend to read more books by this gifted author.
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Obtaining translations -- Daniel (hopeful), 05:15:02 06/17/07 Sun
Hello everyone,
It's great that Julian Barnes' website provides a list of known translations of his work into other languages, but I need a little help in how to get hold of copies.
I see that 'History Of The World...' has been translated into Czech and I'd like to buy a copy for my girlfriend. I've been to the website of the publisher of the translation, but I'm afraid my Czech has barely got off the ground, so I'm not able to learn much there.
Has anyone any experience of obtaining foreign translations that might help me?
Many thanks
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translations -- Viera Seligova, 07:00:33 08/01/07 Wed
Hello,
if your girlfriend is Czech, she should have no problem reading a Slovak translation. Here is a webpage where you can order some of Barnes' books translated into Slovak. They even have one translated into Czech {Flaubert's parrot}. Unfortunately they don't have History of the World..Good luck :-}
Viera
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arthur & george -- michael, 13:00:29 07/21/07 Sat
just finished Arthur & George... i was torn between 2 desires - to read it overnight or to stretch it over several days of reading pleasure, and the latter won. I could not sleep for a few nights because george's case was bothering me so much.
Dear Julian, thank you very much for this book - i do not remember another one I've read in the past few years that took over my imagination so completely, and got me so fully immersed in the story told.
waiting for more of your creations,
michael
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Arthur & George -- Brian Lynch (Puzzled), 07:18:32 05/04/07 Fri
Is it true that J B Partridge,while at Stonyhurst, did not know the difference between the Virgin Birth and the Immaculate Conception of Mary?
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england england -- monalisa (help please), 14:29:22 03/07/07 Wed
hi everyone,
i'm writing on julian barnes and other narratives which are linked to england and englishness, can you give me your opinion on the subject and tell me more about how it is underlined in barnes' novel thanks for your help
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Arthur et George -- Nordon (grateful), 13:37:47 02/23/07 Fri
My name might ring a bell (no pun intended). I would like to know what was at the inception of your book. Carr and I had mentioned the Edalji case but by no means as thoroughly as you treat it. I look upon your study (investigation ? analysis ? novel ? ) as a brilliant sequel. And as far as I can judge admirably translated. Thanks for mentioning Adrian whose guest I was on several occasions. His relationship with his French secretary was very much of the ACD - Wood kind. You and I briefly met in Paris some 20 years ago - about the time when I retired from Sorbonne and all that.
Best regards.
Pierre Nordon
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Get rid of religion, but not of spiritual values -- D. R. Khashaba, 10:41:39 01/07/07 Sun
Dear Professor Barnes,
I feel that we have much in common. I believe it is high time for humanity to grow out of religion, but not to abandon spiritual values. Permit me to invite you to have a look at my website and weblog.
http://www.Back-to-Socrates.com
http://khashaba.blogspot.com
You might also find my latest book, Hypatia’s Lover, which has just been published of interest:
http://www.virtualbookworm.com/store/search.php?mode=search&page=1
Best regards.
D. R. Khashaba
Cairo, Egypt
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Barnes -- Daria, 06:20:26 10/11/05 Tue
Hello everybody,
I'm looking for people who wrote or are going to write dissertations and articles on Barnes's novels and short stories. Hope to get in touch with someone to exchange ideas on his literary output. My icq number is 203094883. Many thanks,
Daria
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Quotation uncertaintity -- Maxell Harvester, 07:31:00 12/04/06 Mon
I've heard the quote that postmodernism argues for the existence of a "multiplicity of theoretical standpoints". Does anyone know who this can be attributed to?
Thanks
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JB reviews Therese Raquin dramatic adaptation -- Erica Hateley, 23:18:03 11/27/06 Mon
http://arts.guardian.co.uk/features/story/0,,1956167,00.html
Cheers,
Erica
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Quotation -- Mark Hall, 09:04:53 11/27/06 Mon
Hi
I know this may seem a bit strange, I am writing a 20th American History Essay and believe that Julian Barnes once observed that any foreigner visiting the United States can perform an easy magic trick.
`Buy a newspaper and see your own country disappear.'
Does anyone have any proof that he said this as I would like to use it and think I need both evidence he said it and permission to use it.
Regards
Mark
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A History of the World in 10 1/2 chapters' -- Anastasia (Help!), 09:07:09 09/05/06 Tue
Hello everybody!
I am from russia, and it is really impossible to find an original English variant of the book here. But i badly need it, really. PLEASE if anybody has an electronic/ scanned version of the book or at least of the second chapter "The Visitors" give me the link, or my e-mail is portwine_777@rambler.ru Iwill be very grateful.
Thanks all =)
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Reception of books in England and France -- Klaas Roggeman, 01:37:38 08/14/06 Mon
I wonder if there are any known comparisons between the reception/sales of Barnes' books in respectively England and France or any difference in popularity?
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Arthur & George -- Subhankar Mondal, 01:26:26 08/01/06 Tue
I have just completed reading "Arthur & George" and find it a masterpiece. I've always bore a bizzare scepticism against modern novelists but now that I've read a great modern writer,this shield of cynicism is gradually revealing cracks. The novel is an exquisitely contrued work of literature that must remain a great book till eternity.
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Staring At The Sun -- Marion, 04:20:21 07/12/06 Wed
Please help me! There's been a question bugging me ever since I've read this truly haunting book - Staring At The Sun - someone p l e a s e tell me: WHY IS THE MINK TENACIOUS OF LIFE???
Put me out of my misery, I beg you!
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Soil on Shoes? -- Dr Alastair Ruffell, Queen's University Belfast, 02:26:03 03/30/06 Thu
I read Arthur and George with two intentions. First was to enjoy a good read, as we always do with Julian Barnes. The other was to see how the evidence we often cite in the Edalji case - of Doyle proving his innocence by the mud on his seized shows not matching that of the scene of the last animal mutilation (see Ruffell & McKinley, 2005, Earth Science Reviews, V 69, p235-247). The latter point, forgive me if I missed it, was not in Barne's book. Now I am seeking to test the veracity of this oft-quoted evidence (Murray 'Evidence from the Earth', Mountain Press, 2004). Can anyone help?
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Emily & Florence -- Charles Nicol, 12:25:31 05/20/06 Sat
Dear Mr Barnes,
I love your books.
I was wondering if the characters Emily and Florence in the popular television series are named after the cryptogamic ladies in your short story in "Cross Channel"
Charles Nicol
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Synoptic Paper -- Richard Morris, 11:27:26 06/19/03 Thu
The author Julian Barnes belives ‘A history of the world in 10 ½ chapters’ is a novel, by his definition ‘an extended piece of prose, largely fictional, which is planned and executed as a whole piece.’ By this classification the book could be described as such. Other critics have called it, ’10 Short Stories’ and a work which posses ‘no character who rises above the cipher and no plot worth speaking of’. It is true that most novels will follow trends and themes which re-occur in each chapter, Barnes’ book takes a different stance and each chapter seems for the most part to be separate from those before or after. The only frequent theme and character is the ‘narrator’ (the woodworm) and the theme of separating the clean from the unclean which occurs in both the story of Noah’s arch which was built because God felt the world was too corrupt, the flood therefore was intended to cleanse the world leaving only Noah. This also occurs on the raft, when the clean and unclean or healthy and dying were separated to save food. Beyond this I can find little else to link Barnes work chapter to chapter. What then is Barnes’ reason for this seemingly unstructured ‘novel’ I ask myself. The only answer I can derive is that the unstructured book is supposed to symbolise as a whole man on earth and the random nature by which we live.
I would be as bold to say that this book is an attack on history itself. The humorous title almost mocks history. Furthermore I came across a quote of Barnes’ on the internet, ‘47% is better than 41%’, this pessimistic view on how truthful a source can be reflects Barnes’ whole attitude towards other peoples account’s. In this way we must remember that of the 150 on the raft only 15 survived and 2 told their story, how truthful do you believe those two guilty survivors where? Barnes’ aim as far as I can see with this book is to undermine history as a genre altogether, ‘there are as many types of history as there are ways of writing’ (Barnes).
I gotta get back to real work now but please reply, unfortunately I didn’t get around to the painting but briefly I believe that this picture is attempting to portray, as the source I believe says, mans isolation and will to survive despite the unbeatable forces of the ocean.
Please Respond, Good Luck.
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History of the world -- George, 05:30:56 04/11/06 Tue
Hey there,
Barnes certainly wrote a "clever" book. It is clearly provocative, thoughtful and searching, but it is also unconventional in form, impartial and unjudgemental. What does Barnes want the reader to think? Is this an insurmountable problem for the litery theorist or is this the exact position that Barnes wants his readers to be in, and if so why?
Any thoughts on this greatly appreaciated!
Thanks George.
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Flaubert's parrot -- Hugo Lewyllie, 12:43:44 04/01/06 Sat
Dear Mister Barnes,
I've just read your novel on Flaubert and his parrot.
Some questions have since bothered my somehow.
First question: Are your really sure that "bear" has the same connotation in English as in French? I myself have some doubts. The English dictionaries explain it's use for a human being as "a pessimist, an ill-mannered person", but none that I have checked states the connotation "person that seaks solitude", which is what Flaubert was referring to and can be found in any good French dictionary.
Secondly: You translate somewhere (page 138, Picador paperback) a excerpt of one of Flaubert's letters, wherein he writes Bouilhet of his plans. "My Flemish novel about the young girl who dies a virgin and a mystic... in a little provincial town, at the bottom of a garden planted with cabbages and "bulrushes"... (highlighted by me). Bulrushes are in French "des joncs", but in the original French correspondance I read "quenouilles". Quenouille means here: fruit trees cut in the form of a "spindle". This surely must be a mistake? Anyway, I haven't heard of "planted" bulrushes...
Yours truly,
Hugo Lewyllie (Belgium, mother tongue: Dutch)
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Arthur and George -- caroline walker, 07:14:41 02/16/06 Thu
Having just finished reading Arthur and George,(I only got the book yesterday).
I live in the area that this book mentions. firstly I should point out that the Bridgtown mentioned is not spelt with an 'e' as in Bridgetown, small point I know, but folks around here get very 'put out' about that.
However last night it sparked a conversation with my parents, who are in their eighties, and my mother reckons that my grandmother(her mother)was 'in service to that household, somewhere near that time!! so now you have set me about on a mission to find out more!!!!!!!
I enjoyed the book,and will read more of your work.
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essay -- Natalia, 13:51:11 03/12/06 Sun
Hello, everybody!
I should write an essay on the chapter Parenthesis of Julian Barnes' "History..."
If somebody has any material on this chapter,send it,please, on my e-mail.
Best regards from Ukraine and thank you for your help
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just asking... -- Lea Marie, 19:20:11 02/26/06 Sun
hmm.. just wanna ask if his character/hero in flaubert's parrot a non-fictinal character. thnx folks. :)
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Arthur and George -- Helen Humphreys, 07:41:03 02/24/06 Fri
Really enjoyed Arthur and George, but sorry to be a bit of an anorak about this but Ingleton is nowhere near the Yorkshire Wolds its in the Yorkshire Dales, so it would be fells and dales not Wolds, also the station was at Thornton which was then 2 miles to Masongill- across the viaduct from Ingleton- the halt at Thornton was demolished about 1970 although I remember it as a child- i am from Ingleton so rather pedantic about these things.I hadn't realised that the stories I heard were in fact true, my family apparently knew Conan Doyle as a visitor to the village and a friend of the local doctor.The only bit that village gossip got wrong was the relationship of the governess at Thornton Vicarage to Conan Doyle.They also believed that the Hound of the Baskervilles was based on the moors above Masongill, its certainly wild enough.
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Re Verlaine House Camden -- Michael E Corby, 00:39:06 02/24/06 Fri
Heard you on the wireless today.
Am interested in getting involved in this, possibly buying and restoring, with utmost sympathy and commitment, the properties.
Can I have more info please?
Regards
M E Corby
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Happy Birthday, Mr Barnes! -- Dr Max, 12:30:07 01/19/06 Thu
Happy Birthday, Mr Barnes! With the 250th birthday of one of Europe's most excellent composers coming up in about a week from now, let's not forget the 60th birthday of one of Europe's most excellent writers - today's the day!
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I love Barnes! -- Lea Marie, 20:06:52 01/08/06 Sun
or maybe braithwaite's flaw? how about flaubert's flaw? or canaria's flaw perhaps? ok, let's call this barnes' flaw... no no no! let's call this flaubert's, braithwaite's and canaria's flaw.
Flaubert's Parrot by Julian Barnes (copyright: 1984)
1984, the year i came to existence and the rest to extinction. the year this novel (anti-novel) came to the market. or did it? or was this only a reprint? who knows? julian barnes sure does. ask him? posthumously? hopefully not..
few years ago, i came across with this novel at my aunt's bookshelf (im the person who would mess ur shelf looking for a nice book to crack). but it honestly didnt have my least attention. i find the cover boring and assumed the whole is as plain as its front.
but things are made to decieve. and to my surprise, this is the only novel who had me up for some nights chuckling my heart out (and some more nights thinking about the novel itself, and the author alongside). and the only prose i find too delightful, indulging and exceptionally witty... so far. no. i am not trying to adulate barnes (or braithwaite?) for such a job well done. im just expressing what is due and what is there to express.
so who might these people be? flaubert? a french novelist. braithwaite? an english anti-novelist. canaria? a filipina wannabe? from the 18 hundreths, to the 19th, to the 20th or 21st perhaps? does it matter? does time really matters? the generation? the war? the abstract? the absolute? the writings? the parrot? the ironies? the flaws? or maybe the philandering?
i've actually looked up the encyclopedia if flaubert really did exist; Gustave Flaubert (1821-1880). i wonder if it is really his picture that is there. a bald, stout french guy who happened to be a 6-foot mere adonis in his early years. but again, does it matter? does looks matter? the height? the built? the color of the eyes? of the hair? of the skin? the prominence of the nose? the contour of the mouth? but why? we were born without any knowledge of how we look and how we have to look. if we find it too frustrating facing the mirror, do we have a choice? we were born the way we are. no matter how good or bad it was, it is and it can be, we were simply born; unknowing, choiceless. but does it matter? does looks really matter? do we have to fixate ourselves to physical aesthetics? especially of a person? sure thing, when one is physically beautiful, he'll have as many women as he like chasing after him, and even men by all means. but when our age progress, do we progress physically? do we expect to look the same on our deathbed half a century after the peak of our youth? "when the mind inside declares itself prematurely old, the flesh do its best to conform"-- braithwaite.
the only real deal in this world is regression, deterioration. it's the boiling pot of everything, of evey detail of our existence. of every struggles, of every foe, of every gray hair that multiplies day and day and of every wrinkle in our face that is much too frustrating than the faec itself.
you may call these hypocritical thinking; yes it is, and no it is not. somehow, we do set requisites and standards for the right person to love -- tall, dark and handsome, pretty, sexy and petite. it's sane enough, isnt it? we dream. and when we do we cross the horizon. we dream of the abstract, the ideal. y not? the dream is the reality of the dreamer. but we're not dreamers (maybe, not always) and reality, unfortunately, always set in and strike us hard. how about the short ones? the ghostly ones? the not-so-handsome-nor-pretty ones? the pudgy ones? the walking sticks? isnt there a bright world ahead of them? do we have to prejudge, judge or adjudge people by the way they look? no, of course not. looks is the shallowest part of the stream. and those who see a person by the way he look, are as shallow as looks itself.
braithwaite's had had me a still-vague picture of flaubert (though he gave himself a cloudless view). i have always wanted to learn french. but maybe, with all these translations and different language versions, learning such is just but a waste of time. (just the way learning english has made me less of a filipina, has made me divert my native tongue from filipino to english. and in a way, made me less of the ordinary and more of the intellectual -- if it makes sense, and if u would agree.) i wanted to have a copy of his vulgar and controversial "madam bovary". (anybody with a good heart pls?) and why it has brought him into legal interrogation. freedom of speech? freedom of expression? did he somehow violate this? funny isnt it? how will one ever violate such freedom? or if that was such then we should omit the term freedom and call it "of speech" and "of expression" instead. well, his novel simply went against the moral law. and yes. during the 18th century, they speak of moral law; of chauvinism, of feminism, of egoism, of sadism. of war, of homosexuality, of syphillis, of philandering.
my client (braithwaite) is an english retired doctor who fed his obsession to his client (flaubert), set all the way from england to rouen, to croisset, to wherever these places be. i honestly am not so sure if he does exist (or if barnes just like flaubert, built his characters) but apparently, he seemed to. i've theorized his own obsession out of the synopsis the encyclopedia had for "madam bovary". did braithwaite, somehow, feel the weight of flaubert's novel? did he, in a way or another, able to relate the story of emma bovary to ellen braithwaite? i honestly felt moved by his pure story. it looked like, "madam bovary" was a prophecy that had befallen unto him. and braithwaite was in search for the prophet who had almost cursed his life, his whole being. i felt a little symphatetic, that's all.
and as for me, i wouldnt have to do anything with "madam bovary". but braithwaite's real-life story and exceptional writing style had interest and at the same time inspired me. i've always wanted to write a novel (a book). i've tried, but that lacked spice. u may call me braithwaite's amateur but i would inclined myself to vera brittain, a realist romanticist (or maybe to miguel de cervantes' don quixote; a mad hopeless romantic). but brittain was just too profound and spontaneous the way i always try to be. i can never be like her. i cant deal with all her "corporeal" and i havent wont, nor submitted, nor made a brilliant, award-winning literary work at 20. i want to be a little of braithwaite's intellectually funny sense.
i have always wanted to meet a lot of people. 1st, shakespeare. i wanted to tell him "how dare u made literature a man and only a man's thing." 2nd, virginia woolf, she reprimanded and counterproved the thought that literature is only a man's thing. 3rd, byron george gordon, he's damn gorgeous. 4th, elizabeth browning. i want to ask her how to be romantically bitter. 5th, abraham lincoln, he knew just what freedom and human rights are. 6th, andres bonifacio, a brave heart. 7th, conrado de quiros, a brave soul, daringly opinionated. 8th, vera brittain, a woman of melancholia, a true woman, a brain. 9th, lualhati baustita. i like her "dekada 70". 10th, the sophists. "dont make things hard for an idiot!" 11th, eisntein. i want to trim his hair, he honeslty and no doubt needs a little grooming. and now lastly, geoffrey braithwaite. i wanted to ask him how to make people come to u time after time, at any rate. seriously, i wanted to tell him, "u'll come out of it."
so is this the life we talk about almost everyday of our unpredictable existence? when u're in ur 20's and u talk about life, do u get criticisms on ur head? at ur breasts? behind ur back? under ur feet? from whom? from the old and experienced ones? yes, for sure. but what do they know about u? what do they know about the billion "other" people living in the same planet as u do? how do they ever know if u exist, if u did exist, or if u'll about to exist? how will u know one if u just take a glimpse on him and fainted with his boisterous look? and apparently, died from his unfunny jokes and dull wit. (but is this all that matters? the looks? the intellect? is this all that makes one happy? no. "to be stupid, to be selfish and to be healthy are the three requirements to be happy -- though if stupidity is lacking, the others are useless"-- flaubert. now, can u tell if u're happy?) do they know about the things u had gone through? do they experienced all the things u had? do they know every detail of what u're going through? do they? did they?
what is life to u may not be life to me, and what is life to me may not be life to u. what is love to me may be lust to u, what is lust to me may be love to u. i may be a riddle to u, i may be a riddle to braithwaite the way he's starting to be a riddle to me. what is orthodoxy to me might be paradoxical to u. what is philandering to me, may be sanity to u. we never know the absolute, we never can tell if there is really such. but what if we can? what difference will it make between knowing, unknowing and wanting to know? if u want to know, will u know? if u dont know, will u want to know? if u know, will u understand?
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US News and World Report article -- Zaleski, 20:33:37 01/02/06 Mon
Is this the same Julian Barnes who spent time with Maj. Jon Fox in Iraq and wrote an outstanding article for U.S. News and World Report?
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Love, etc. -- Ni, 01:14:59 12/03/05 Sat
Is there any critics on the book 'Love, etc.'and where could I find it? It is very intersting to read, but it is also necessary to know what others think about it.
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Help Me Gooch McCracken...You're My Only Hope -- John Smith, 17:44:10 11/28/05 Mon
Gooch, golfers, Tony, etc.,
Where's Mart's new board? I know you've found it if there is one.
John Smith
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i'm writing a paper and i don't want to read the novel -- John, 20:50:40 11/03/05 Thu
i'm writing a paper on history of the world, can you tell me the importance of the fish that swim up the urine. and is parentheses the 1/2, or what? any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. if you wil write my paper that would be really really cool.
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Conference -- Guillaume, 13:13:52 11/01/05 Tue
Hi there!
I haven't read any book of Julian Barnes yet (and I know I'm wrong...), all the more since I study English!
Anyway, while working on Ford Madox Ford's "The Good Soldier", I happened to read a clever article written by Barnes about it, and then I found the recording of the conference he held at La sorbonne in Paris a few years ago that might interest some of you, because he talks about his "Flaubert's Parrot" and answers to a number of questions concerning other matters with humour and spirit.
Here's the link:
www.ercla.paris4.sorbonne.fr
Tell me if you find it useful... or not!!
Guillaume
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Talking it over & Love etc. -- Anton Segers, 15:12:28 11/01/05 Tue
Hello,
I'm wondering if Talking it over & Love etc. have ever been adapted for the theatre. I know about one production in Belgium (just Talking it over) but has it been done in other countries as well?
It seems very logical, but I do not seem to find a trace of a theatre version anywhere on internet.
Can anyone help me please?
Anton Segers,
Ninove, Belgium
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Flaubert's Parrot -- Lies, 11:02:27 10/03/05 Mon
I read 'Flaubert's Parrot' a very long time ago. I seem to remember a quote about animals and crazy people. Something like: "I only attract animals and crazy people". Does anyone have the correct quote? Does anyone have this quote in French (this would be wonderful). Thanks anyway.
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Writing to Julian Barnes? -- Yelen, 04:11:14 09/12/05 Mon
Hi, I am a huge fan of Mr. Barnes's amazing works and I'd like to write a letter to him. Does anyone know where to address it? Thanks in advance.
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Where can I get more info about Flaubert's Parrot? -- Yana, 06:05:39 12/17/04 Fri
Please, can you tell me where I can get more information about Barnes's novel Flaubert's Parrot? I need any critique for my thesis. Thank you
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Barnes's appearance ? -- Lara, 12:12:50 06/02/05 Thu
Any prospective public appearance (TV, lecture...)? Coming to France any soon?
Is there any information about that available?
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Arthur and George -- Blair Southerden, 14:12:45 07/22/05 Fri
This is my first Julian Barnes novel and I am enjoying it immensely - but for idiosyncratic references to the law which are so wrong. 'A pair of gloves is Going Equipped' says Sgt Upton. Well it is under the Theft Act of 1968 to which the story later refers as the Theft Act, while at the time of this story the governing legislation was the Larceny Act 1861. How can this be? Going Equipped replaced the old offence of 'being found (by night) with face blackened and disguised'. Oh dear, I am showing my age.
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Arthur & George -- Allen Shelley, 04:09:21 07/17/05 Sun
Enjoying Arthur & George a lot. It is beautifully written & I love the detail & the psychological insight into the life of George in prison. It is my first read of Julian Barnes. Can more practised readers of him recommend his other books? What would be a good follow up to read after this one?
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Arthur and George -- Gerry Kilduff, 13:16:56 07/05/05 Tue
Reall enjoying this new book so much I have to ration myself to 20 pages a night to make it last.Thank you.
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CONAN DOYLE INVESTIGATES -- Darryl David, 09:24:34 07/05/05 Tue
Dear Julian Barnes: Having heard your interesting discussion on Monday 4/7 'Start The Week' you may be interested in the following:
In 1971 the Victoria Theatre Stoke on Trent presented 'CONAN DOYLE INVESTIGATES' by Roger Woddis regarding the E-DAL-ji case ( that's how we pronounced it)as it was of local 'Potteries' interest. I played the part of SHAPURJI EDALJI ( VICAR FATHER)[ there were no Asian actors then] and my son George, the lead was played by CHARLES MCKEOWN (Pythonesque actor/writer)and Conan Doyle was played by ALAN DAVID ( late of Dr Who). The premiere was attended by Con-D's daughter (Dame Jean?). My memories fail. The villain was a local man called Royden Sharpe. Also in cast was Carol Drinkwater (Olive Grove author). It was directed by Peter Cheeseman.
The case was familiar to the elderly patrons of the 5 Towns- - they believed the Ansons ran a harsh regime and corruption was rife. It was an interesting play and worth resurrecting perhaps.
PS I thought 'FL's Parrot' one of the greatest books of the last century.
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Parenthesis -- Cheeseus, 13:40:38 02/12/05 Sat
It's all about that half of a chapter, isn't it?
It's what makes the book complete, I think. Half a chapter - unfinished - it's not history, it's not art, it's not an essay - it's not an account, an indisputable truth shown. It's perhaps the least imaginative of all the chapters - what is there to imagine about love? There is, of course, plenty to imagine about the history of the world - it's all stories, all characters, events - you can't see them, so you need to imagine them - which is where art comes handy. Helps you imagine. And, carried away into fantasies, we forget that love is not a fantasy, and it can't be COMPLETE, a full chapter :)
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Snarr -- Trisha Snarr Beck, 15:23:55 05/11/05 Wed
Somebody thought they heard Julian Barnes discuss the history of the "Snarrs" in England. Could you tell me if this is so and if so, where I would find the information? Thank you so much, Trisha Snarr Beck
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Re: New Articles on Flaubert's Parrot -- Yasin, 15:01:49 05/10/05 Tue
Please send me an article on Flaubert's Parrot
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Seeing the truth and history/past in Flaubert's Parrot -- Whiskas, 03:37:08 04/20/05 Wed
I need help on the topic above.. a.s.a.p.
Any suggestions?
Thanx :)
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Chapter ten: Flaubert's Parrot -- Liz, 06:13:24 04/19/05 Tue
Hi, this discussion board is pretty useful, thanks!As an A-Level student i am studying Flaubert's Parrot for the exam. I am, very interested in Barnes'writing but at times it is a little hard to get my head around. got a few quations that i am to answer, was wondering if anyone can help me. they are regarding chapter 10 of Flaubert's Parrot 1) What does Braithwaite mean when he says that italics seem to be the readers "favourite mode of utterance" (page 151)
2) What does the list suggest about the realtionship between art and life?
i would be very grateful for any insight into this chapter. Thanks a lot
Liz
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Franklin Hughes -- Emma, 03:42:03 01/25/05 Tue
Despite inital misgivings,does the Character Franklin Hughes in Barnes' novel History of the world in 10 and a half chapters show himself to be a good man, or is he shallow and vain through and through? I would be greatfull of anyone's opinion.
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Barnes and God -- Button, 15:56:09 09/13/04 Mon
I was wondering if any one had read anything about Barnes' own beliefs about religion and God etc?
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barnes on flaubert's parrot (3/5/05 guardian.co.uk) -- bill, 20:15:25 03/06/05 Sun
http://books.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,12084,1429954,00.html
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Mein Ericaerection is currently in abeyance -- Rolf Grolsch, 19:46:05 02/17/05 Thu
HEADLINE: A palace coup--but it had to be done
BYLINE: Sarah Bradford
SOURCE: The Sunday Telegraph
DATE: 13 February 2005
[blah blah blah]
The novelist Julian Barnes wrote in 1995 that when he was growing up the Royal Family operated as a moral and domestic exemplar for most of Her Majesty's subjects. "This function", he added, "is currently in abeyance." Indeed, apart from the shining example of the Queen herself, it is. The events of the 1990s destroyed the "ideal family" image of the monarchy that had been so assiduously promoted since the days of Queen Victoria.
That Charles could marry Camilla without expressions of popular outrage is an acknowledgment of this. People no longer expect the Royal Family to behave better than the rest of us; many of the generation under, say, the age of 50 positively welcome the fact. "Good on him" is their reaction. As a pre-emptive strike, Thursday's announcement has another advantage in avoiding the possible threat to the succession had it been left until after the death of the Queen. There will be unresolved problems such as the position of the Church of England in its close relationship with the Crown, but in handling the matter as it has, the monarchy has shown a new sensitivity towards public opinion and a willingness to take action before it is overwhelmed by event. A line has been drawn under the traumatic recent past.
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theme of alienation in history of the world in 10 1/2 chapters -- Siobhan Limbrick, 05:45:55 02/07/03 Fri
I am doing A level coursework on History of the World in 10 1/2 chapters and my question is how Barnes shows the theme of alienation through his language and any other ways in which he brings across this theme.I would be grateful for any help you can provide me.
Thank you very much
Siobhan
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Heisenberg's Principal of Uncertainty -- Patrick, 05:48:04 05/11/04 Tue
In The Pedant in the Kitchen Julian Barnes refers to Heisenberg's Pricipal of Uncertainty twice (pages 90 and 94). When I first came across it I had anticipated seeing it again, because I expected that he would desribe, or explain it. He didn't.
So I am still uncertain as to what it is. (Sorry I couldn't resist that.
Can anyone assist?
Patrick
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The Mystery/Detective Novels. -- Juan Galis-Menendez, 16:10:34 09/18/04 Sat
I find it intriguing that Julian Barnes elected to turn HIMSELF into a fictional person, complete with an invented history and to write detective novels as this new character.
Perhaps it was a way of making a part of his life (and, thus, of himself) into a fictional character too -- something which most of us these days are good at doing anyway. An author who does this, however, immediately creates a hall of mirrors for the reader: this is Barnes, writing as the character "Dan," in the first person, who is himself writing as the character "Duffy," who is a detective ...
All of this seems like clever French-lit stuff, except that I don't eat souffle and I seem to remember much of the same game-playing from good, solid, dependable English writers like Fowles (see the story "Enigma" and the brief essay "The John Fowles Club"); or bizarre writers from outlandish places, like Borges (see "Borges y Yo").
What is all this nonsense? Is it un-British? Should Barnes go into politics?
My favorite Barnes novels are: "England, England"; "Flaubert's Parrot," and "Love, etc."
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Is love something that can be analized through discourse analysis? -- Myrna, 17:13:43 08/29/04 Sun
Hi everyone. Eight years ago I came acroos A history of the world and I simply loved it, especially Parenthesis, which portrays the nature of love so deliciously described. Last year I concluded a Masters degree in Applied Linguistics and I am really looking forward to getting my degree by carrying out a discursive analysis of Parenthesis. In one of my chapters I would like to include comments from everyone who is willing to share his/her points of view about Parenthesis, so feel free to write and tell me what you thought and felt after reading this great work of art.
Thank you and best regards from Mexico.
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what are the points relevant in cross channel ? -- mourad, 10:02:14 12/03/03 Wed
i'd like to know the main ideas contained in cross channel.
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The pedant in the kitchen -- Eleanor, 05:24:48 07/23/04 Fri
I'd like to have some opinions on the pedant in the kitchen. I'd like to write an essay for my degree on Julian Barnes, and I'm just curious about that book.
Thanks, Eleanor
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the mysterious poet -- gérard van reysel, 01:39:11 07/29/04 Thu
No Morning Dawns
No Night returns
But What We Think Of Thee
who is the author of the poem whose extract can be found in the short story Evermore in Cross Channel ?
Thks
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Trespass -- Steve Wild, 13:23:23 07/20/04 Tue
Trespass
Just heard this story on radio 3 - brilliant
I really enjoyed it
Thank you
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Saddam Hussain's trial and Julian Barnes' The Porcupine -- Cyrus, 22:58:39 07/05/04 Mon
For those who have already read Julian Barnes' The Porcupine, Saddam Hussain's trial would appear as a deja vu. Can someone volunteer to actually compare the Saddam's court trial transcript, and passages from The Porcupine?
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Madame Bovary -- Paul Andrews, 05:32:20 06/23/04 Wed
Yes, I know that Madame Bovary is only best read in the original French, but for those whose French is not quite up to the task, which is the 'best' English translation that comes closest to Flaubert?
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the 1/2 chapter on love.. -- Lyan, 00:04:08 06/24/04 Thu
Hello everyone:)I am new around here but certainly adore Julian Barnes' work..Well,just wished to know your thoughts on the half chapter on love in " The History of the World in 10 1/2 Chapters"..Do you think the post-modern or even the post-post modern world would provide a suitable another half a chapter to complete Barnes' one?..Or is it Love the myth that is everpresent as a backdrop for the history of the world?
I was also thinking about the nature of the original sin..maybe the Barnes could have started from it and not media res as he did...What do you think?
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Beetroot, Beeton and Playfair -- Ryetee, 00:25:07 06/22/04 Tue
I was intrigued by this in The Pedant in the Kitchen:
"When first introduced into Britain, in the seventeenth century, [the beetroot] was viewed as a sweet pleasure of various application; there is even an eighteenth-century recipe for 'crimson biscuits of red beet-root'. But native puritanism kicked in at some subsequent point: this is a vegetable which naturally tastes nice and sweet, so let's make it taste nasty and sour. Mrs Beeton offers only two ways of treating it - pickling and boiling; though she also does cite Dr Lyon Playfair's unexciting recipe for cheapo brown bread made by rasping down the root and mixing it with an equal amount of flour."
because Dr Lyon Playfair is a distant ancestor. Resorting to my copy of Mrs Beeton, I can find no such reference. However, my copy is the "New and enlarged edition" (costing One Shilling) published in 1894 - so it may be a bit new-fangled.
Is anyone able to throw any light on the beetroot/Beeton /Playfair connection?
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Luke Slattery Madness -- Erica Hateley, 11:04:23 06/19/04 Sat
Luke Slattery - an Australian opinion writer for "The Australian" newspaper - has this weekend outdone himself with his usual infuriating nutbaggery ideas by going to town on Barnes's "The Pedant in the Kitchen", informing the reader that he was "thus saddened to pick up a book by Julian Barnes" (this comes amid a rant about people who are interested in discussing food).
My favourite annoying moment?:
"What was I doing with the book? Reading a much-loved author. What was the writer doing? Fussing about food."
There you go, don't bother reading "Pedant" - apparenly it's just fussing. Ah, where would we be without Luke Slattery?
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Dan Kavanagh's in Russian -- leo, 07:47:26 12/19/03 Fri
Hi there!
If anybody has any link or file with any of Dan Kavanagh's novel in Russian - please let me know!
your reply is much appreciated!
peace!
leo
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the use of french in talking it over -- anna, 04:09:26 01/31/04 Sat
hi everyone,
i study talking it over for my memoire, and i wonder whether the main reasons for the use of french are to show oliver as pedantic and to "test" the english reader's knowledge of french vocabulary; and i also wonder why julian barnes has chosen to translate some words or phrases into french rather than others.
does anyone know?
thanks alot for answering.
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Albion or Anglia? -- Birke, 04:44:06 04/24/04 Sat
Does anyone know why in the Picador edition (1999) of England, England the last part is called 'Albion', and not 'Anglia' like in the original Cape-edition????
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The Story Of Mats Israelson -- Naveen, 06:57:32 04/16/04 Fri
This is a story from the new collection, The Lemon Table. Anyone has thoughts about the significance of 'the gunshots to awaken the echoes'? Something seems missing about the story to me. Any insight will be appreciated.
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