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Date Posted: 13:36:41 09/08/01 Sat
Author: Trecklar
Author Host/IP: adsl-64-123-145-171.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net / 64.123.145.171
Subject: Bot logs of this incident
In reply to: Trecklar 's message, "Gb & Mestro... Again" on 10:15:42 09/08/01 Sat

<11:46:26AM -GB-> if we can get 2 more players we can do a 3v3 micro wars...
<11:46:31AM mestro> first time i played...
<11:46:32AM scrappy~pol> lol
<11:46:34AM $$BRAMPOL$$> geeeez
<11:46:42AM mestro> whats mass?
<11:46:43AM $$BRAMPOL$$> i can play a normal game bymyslef
<11:46:54AM -GB-> microwars=loads o' skill
<11:46:58AM mestro> aye
<11:47:19AM $$BRAMPOL$$> i have not lost a micro wars game yet gb and you know it
<11:47:27AM mestro> but zone control is real strategy
<11:47:27AM -GB-> fine, micro wars ME
<11:47:42AM $$BRAMPOL$$> if i have to hear about your skill's being greater one more time
<11:47:47AM $$BRAMPOL$$> lol
<11:47:49AM scrappy~pol> lets play thats survivor thing
<11:47:54AM mestro> when it heats up, the mini-map is your god =)
<11:48:12AM -GB-> i never said my skills are greater now did i bram?
<11:48:22AM -GB-> people say my skills are greater
<11:48:35AM mestro> no real appreciation of the ground lvl, but whoa, the shifting patterns of the overview =)
<11:48:36AM $$BRAMPOL$$> oh but your skills are great cause you held off 2
<11:48:38AM $$BRAMPOL$$> lol
<11:48:51AM -GB-> no, you said there is no skill involved
<11:48:52AM $$BRAMPOL$$> ya doink listen to what ya say before defending it
<11:48:58AM System> $$BRAMPOL$$ left the channel
<11:49:04AM System> MrCold_son2 joined the channel
<11:49:04AM -GB-> i was just saying there is some skill involved
<11:49:09AM scrappy~pol> hi Nate
<11:49:10AM MrCold_son2> hail everyone
<11:49:11AM mestro> hi
<11:49:42AM -GB-> "There is no skill in this game" "Must be some skill considering i held both of you"
<11:49:55AM mestro> *sigh* drop it pls
<11:50:00AM scrappy~pol> yes please
<11:50:03AM -GB-> bram is just a sore losing baby
<11:50:11AM mestro> gb...
<11:50:20AM scrappy~pol> and your a
<11:50:22AM scrappy~pol> no
<11:50:22AM MrCold_son2> hail
<11:50:25AM ko_strider> hail
<11:50:26AM scrappy~pol> im not going to say it
<11:50:26AM MrCold_son2> hey
<11:50:27AM MrCold_son2> ko
<11:50:34AM -GB-> go ahead, say it, like i care
<11:50:39AM mestro> way arrogant
<11:50:51AM -GB-> snobby know it all?
<11:50:56AM mestro> but lets play
<11:51:05AM -GB-> you say im a snobby-know-it-all?
<11:51:06AM MrCold_son2> cya
<11:51:07AM scrappy~pol> i think im DONE playing now
<11:51:07AM System> MrCold_son2 left the channel
<11:51:16AM mestro> nope
<11:51:24AM -GB-> i believe thats what arrogant means
<11:51:34AM mestro> a snobby-know-it all is a know-it-all
<11:51:49AM -GB-> i believe arrogant is a snobby-know-it-all
<11:52:47AM -GB-> and when do i rub it in, when i give help to others?
<11:52:55AM -GB-> when i offer people help to improve?
<11:52:56AM mestro> knowing everything and saying it out is just silly and smacks of an inferiorty complex
<11:53:08AM System> tassadar3413 joined the channel
<11:53:10AM mestro> nope, when you keep saying your the best
<11:54:07AM -GB-> i dont say i am the best
<11:54:10AM -GB-> OTHERS say i am the best
<11:54:19AM -GB-> i say im not that great because i lose to a lot of people
<11:54:24AM tassadar3413> DROP IT PLEASE!
<11:54:49AM -GB-> stop whispering mestro
<11:55:01AM mestro> and sometimes it's better to know when to drop a subject
<11:55:07AM -GB-> i dont care
<11:55:11AM -GB-> you state i say i am the best
<11:55:22AM -GB-> i do not unless people keep saying "Ya you are" whenever i say im not
<11:55:26AM mestro> i never did say that...
<11:55:41AM -GB-> "nope, when you keep saying you the best"
<11:55:43AM -GB-> hmmm
<11:55:46AM -GB-> never said that?
<11:55:50AM mestro> no i didn't
<11:56:04AM mestro> most i said is you were good or very good
<11:56:18AM -GB-> im not talking about you
<11:56:21AM -GB-> im talking about others
<11:56:28AM -GB-> inside PoL
<11:56:38AM -GB-> i never state i am the best around you unless others are saying i am
<11:56:41AM mestro> well, self-depreciate a bit hmm?
<11:56:48AM tassadar3413> SHUT UP! PLEASE
<11:56:51AM -GB-> i always state im not that great
<11:56:54AM -GB-> screw you tass
<11:57:02AM -GB-> because im not
<11:57:04AM mestro> it may be a matter of my culture differing from u guys
<11:57:07AM -GB-> i could never compete with KBK guys
<11:57:18AM mestro> but there it is ^^
<11:57:27AM -GB-> KBK guys own all
<11:57:28AM mestro> anyway, enough debate
<11:57:43AM mestro> why do we always end up talking after a game?
<11:58:02AM -GB-> because bram is a sore-losing baby
<11:58:03AM mestro> and talking *alot* when we could be spending it more profitably gaming?
<11:58:44AM mestro> go make a game gb
<11:58:49AM -GB-> no
<11:58:56AM -GB-> i refuse to play with you
<11:59:00AM -GB-> your stating i do things that i do not
<11:59:06AM mestro> no? don wanna play with me...
<11:59:13AM ko_lillstrider> lol
<11:59:14AM tassadar3413> when will this crap end
<11:59:16AM mestro> i didn't state anything did i?
<11:59:18AM ko_lillstrider> u guys havin fun>
<11:59:20AM ko_lillstrider> ?
<11:59:33AM tassadar3413> theyre arguing like their married
<11:59:35AM -GB-> you said that i should not rub it in when i win
<11:59:41AM ko_lillstrider> lol
<11:59:42AM -GB-> i try to help others improve
<11:59:45AM ko_lillstrider> thsi si pretty funny
<11:59:51AM -GB-> i do not rub it in
<11:59:52AM System> ko_lillstrider left the channel
<12:00:03PM -GB-> i dont go "i win and you lost, niener niener niener"
<12:00:10PM mestro> nope, notice i didnt say you were rubbing it in
<12:00:22PM mestro> thats a bit too blatant...
<12:00:58PM -GB-> you said im way arrogant, "arrogant means having the belief that one is better than others, and *rubbing* it in
<12:01:08PM -GB-> hmmm...
<12:01:41PM -GB-> never said that did you?
<12:01:43PM mestro> and i only said i felt you were arrogant, but thats my perception... culture difference y'know
<12:02:00PM -GB-> but you said what you thought arrogant meant
<12:02:03PM mestro> yes
<12:02:07PM -GB-> and you stated it means i think im better and i rub it in
<12:02:20PM mestro> and i stand by it... and thats what most ppl feel about it too...
<12:02:20PM -GB-> so you cant deny that you said i rub it in
<12:02:37PM mestro> we all have faults, no one i perfect ^^
<12:02:38PM -GB-> thats because they compliment me, i think im not that great, because i KNOW im not that great
<12:02:50PM -GB-> i state im not that great
<12:03:03PM -GB-> they feel that i am rubbing it in when i am not
<12:03:21PM mestro> you may not think you are perfect, but the vibes you give off make others feel that you think so, or they percieve that you are arrogant...
<12:03:34PM tassadar3413> why cant we all just get along?
<12:03:35PM -GB-> what vibes? giving tips?
<12:03:40PM mestro> no....
<12:03:45PM -GB-> oh i give tips, im so freakin arrogant!
<12:03:47PM mestro> sorry, tass
<12:03:52PM mestro> wasn't meaning ya
<12:04:01PM mestro> it wasnt the tips...
<12:04:19PM mestro> it's an aggregate of everything you say...
<12:04:29PM -GB-> like?
<12:04:40PM mestro> like it or not, thats how we judge others.
<12:04:58PM tassadar3413> Look if you cant get along then just leave
<12:05:04PM -GB-> shut up tass
<12:05:07PM mestro> the overall impression you give is that of arrogance on your sc skills
<12:05:15PM -GB-> how so
<12:05:27PM mestro> pls don't aggravate the situation pls, tass
<12:05:29PM -GB-> how do i give that impression?
<12:06:20PM mestro> every word, every action, regarding sc/bw, you say or do
<12:06:26PM -GB-> like?
<12:06:34PM mestro> is tinged with that arrogance
<12:06:47PM mestro> more obvious examples
Current Time is -> Sat Sep 08 12:07:23 2001
<12:07:28PM -GB-> specify
<12:07:31PM mestro> umm... i can't remember the words, but it's because they are all jumbled up in me mind
<12:07:41PM -GB-> specify please
<12:08:03PM -GB-> everything i do that has to do with BW is arrogant, that leaves a very wide range of things
<12:08:19PM tassadar3413> quite
<12:08:22PM tassadar3413> afk
<12:08:34PM System> amo1 joined the channel
<12:09:02PM mestro> say after a humiliating game, to others, you would ahh.... immediately tell us what we did wrong... very abruptly, offensive to someone smarting from a defeat.
<12:09:29PM mestro> tips is well and all, but there are techniques to giving tips without offending
<12:10:01PM TO: -GB-> PLAY NICE OR LEAVE THE CHANNEL
<12:10:13PM mestro> not everything to do with bw, sorry, more specifiaclly your abilities as compared to us ^^
<12:10:23PM -GB- whispers> im not the only one doing it ya know
<12:10:36PM System> amo1 left the channel
<12:10:47PM -GB-> i dont tell people my mistakes because they dont learn from my mistakes
<12:10:53PM -GB-> they learn from my own
<12:11:05PM -GB-> i tell them their mistakes and give them an easy solution
<12:11:18PM TO: mestro> Take this to another channel
<12:11:20PM mestro> yes, you make it sound so simple
<12:11:32PM PofL> Take this to another channel
<12:11:36PM mestro> hmm... the sentry just told me to move
<12:11:39PM tassadar3413> finally
<12:11:56PM PofL> This bickering ends now!
<12:12:02PM mestro> okie
<12:12:10PM System> mestro left the channel
<12:12:18PM System> -GB- left the channel
<12:12:23PM PofL> :)
<12:12:32PM tassadar3413> thank you
<12:12:45PM PofL> My Pleasure

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