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Date Posted: 19:47:24 02/26/00 Sat
Author: Jennifer T.
Subject: Re: Comments for Tracie
In reply to: John Jackson 's message, "Comments for Tracie" on 12:42:45 02/26/00 Sat

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Wow! You seem to have a lot of knowledge. I'm not sure how you know all this but it makes a lot of sense. I have been surfing some of the sites since yesterday and this one seems to be the most open to all points of view and is full of a lot of information. Thanks for providing this forum. The newspapers seem to be full of nothing but slanted propaganda these days so it is refreshing to be able to read the comments of different individuals uncensored. Please continue in your present form.


First, I'd like to commend you on sticking around and
> making your opinion heard. It takes guts to do that
> and subject yourself to a lot of flak. Most won't put
> their name out there like you have. That being said,
> I hate to do this, but these are questions that have
> to be asked. The things that are currently happening
> in Frisco politics are starting to really bother me.
> In particular, the "good old boy" network. I refuse to
> call this "group" the org, I think that is silly.
> However, it is obvious that this group is there. The
> links are obvious to see.
>
> Caplan provides you services for your web (really a
> contribution that was listed at over $1000). He gives
> you a very structured place to make your statements
> that are not really questioned due to the type of
> system he has in place. He writes articles that are
> skewed in your favor and never take issue with
> anything you have done. Then, he applies to fill a
> vacancy to fill Carson's spot. By far, he is low on
> the totem pole for qualifications for that position
> and everyone that knows him would agree with that
> assessment. You have Hosp and Osuna, not to mention
> the others to chose from. And what happens? You vote
> for him. There is no question you are close to him in
> regards to him helping you. There is no question he
> is not qualified for that position from an experience
> point of view. There is also no question that you
> had to vote for him after all he has done for you.
> For someone who pushed so hard for the ethics code
> (which was politically motived in my humble opinion),
> you could have and should have removed yourself from
> this vote. It reeks of favoritism and I expect all
> City Council members to be true to ALL the citizens of
> Frisco. This can't be seen any other way by any
> reasonable person.
>
> Andrews: Here is a man that is bad news for Frisco.
> Anyone with any business sense or experience can see
> this. Even if the airport was a viable alternative,
> which it is not, the City of Frisco would be crazy to
> do any kind of business with this man. I'm not going
> to put in my message what I think of him as I am not
> trying to take this down to an attack on any person.
> Simply put, he's bad news. You take a contribution
> from him (not illegal), take a plane ride from him
> that was designed to grandstand (not illegal) and
> insult a good portion of our citizens (I read the
> complete message and that is exactly how it came
> across). All these things were extremely unwise
> decisions and they show. It tells me (again, my
> opinion) that you jump in with both feet without
> researching an issue and without being cautious until
> you figure out what really is going on. It also shows
> me that you do not have real world business experience
> and a real decision making background. Please read
> this carefully, I am not trying to insult you. You are
> a public figure and I feel that it comes with the
> territory. I think you have good intentions but are
> easily swayed by special interests. I also appreciate
> any council or committee member who takes the time to
> sit through all those meetings, without anything in
> return. It takes dedication and I'm not questioning
> yours.
>
> My point: If you take a paper and pencil and draw
> lines to all these people who have deep links to each
> other, you will see a pattern emerging. It worries me
> because the pattern shows that, instead of being loyal
> to your oath and to the Citizens of Frisco, they are
> loyal to each other and thus, the best interest of the
> City of Frisco is left behind. You have Osuna, Kathy,
> Sems, Burke, Caplan, Buddy, Nichols, Andrews and you
> (there are others) with behind the scene links that
> really bother me. What happened to ethics?
>
> Can you tell me that there is no effort to replace
> those council people that do not agree with the ‘plan'
> and that you and this ‘group' are not involved? I
> feel sorry for Barbara Carpenter, who probably will
> get hit hard this year. I have already heard of which
> candidates are being lined up to go after these spots.
> It is an organized effort.
>
>
> I have a lot more to say, but will save it for a
> future time. I have one parting question for you
> Tracie: With the obvious "pat my back and I'll pat
> yours" politics that are going on, how do you feel
> about a council member, who runs their complete term
> (3, 2 year terms) sitting out for a term or two and
> then running again? Do you think it is fair to the
> Citizens of Frisco? Do you think they bring with them
> excess baggage of "owing" this person and that person?
> Do you think we need fresh and experienced faces in
> City Council instead of the same old people with same
> old agenda?

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