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Subject: waterfront cost? Author: Anonymous [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 21:27:35 10/05/03 Sun Have any of you heard how much this waterfront project is costing? between 3 and 4 million! NOw, the village just bought a big anchor and some nautical things from some guy in Baldwin for $6500! What a waste of money for a white trash town! [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: waterfront cost? Author: Anonymous [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:05:22 10/07/03 Tue they are doing it for the smelly fish cafe, the singles pick up spot they call a restaurant. they rest of the place they don't care about. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: waterfront cost? Author: Anonymous [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:40:34 10/14/03 Tue "Have any of you heard how much this waterfront project is costing? between 3 and 4 million! NOw, the village just bought a big anchor and some nautical things from some guy in Baldwin for $6500!" In the grand scheme of the project, $6500 is a steal. In your eyes, Village government can do no right. I don't expect any better from people who think the Village would be better off as a part of the Town of Hempstead. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: waterfront cost? Author: Anonymous [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 03:52:22 10/25/03 Sat That's right, THIS village government can do no right because they refuse to hear from the people who live in the town. Other village governments do a great job and make sure all of it's residents are treated equally. I have been to other village meetings and East Rockaway's. Go to the East Rockaway village meetings and you will see how residents are yessed-to-death about issues being resolved. Even members of the so-called Unity Party want the mayor and some board members removed because of the way they treat the residents. As for the cost of the nautical things that were bought, they should invest more money in trying to get businesses to come to the Village and when they do a project, like the Little League Field, they should invest in doing it the right way from the start and not have to redo things that will now cost more money and time. The overall price of the project for the waterfront is over the top and if you look at it that way, then $6500 is a drop in the bucket. Based on your posts throughout this forum, you obviously have some stake in the Village government or you don't see what is happening around the entire Village. So, before you make a statement like "I don't expect any better from people who think the Village would be better off as a part of the Town of Hempstead" you should take into account the viewpoints of all of the residents. What you probably don't see is that if you are in the minority on a certain issue, the Village government could care less about you or your family or what effect their decisions have on you. But again, you probably only see one side of things. Maybe you should talk to the resident who lives near the Little League park and has lights shining in his 3 year old's bedroom and people parking under the bedroom windows making noise after a night game. Ask him how the Village has responded to his simple requests for games to end earlier and lights to have shields on them. He will tell you that because it doesn't directly affect anyone else, the Village gave him the bird and the lights and noise still keep his child up until 10pm. Notice where the mayor and former mayor live, there is no ball-playing or noise at night. The children on their block can sleep. Ask the people who live in the Angle Sea section how the Village treats them. Or the people who wait forever for their street to be plowed, but the streets where those who work for the Village live, are done first. Unfortunately, that is how the Village operates and the good ole boys will always prevail because it's a never-ending chain. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: waterfront cost? Author: Anonymous [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:47:15 10/25/03 Sat It's funny you should bring up those points because Angle Sea is under Town of Hempstead control. The Village does not have the authority to plow there, let alone listen to their requests on how the unrelated government should better serve them. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: waterfront cost? Author: Anonymous [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:51:02 10/25/03 Sat In addition, the Village IS wrong if the story you tell is true. However, do you think the Town of Hempstead would be any more sympathetic? No. In fact, they would be less sympathetic. So you're assertion that the Village should be swallowed up by the Town of Hempstead has no bearing on your little story. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: waterfront cost? Author: Anonymous [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:34:47 10/25/03 Sat Until the village government changes this will continue. It has continued for years and years. Since all the parties of policial stand in the village do the same old thing year after year nothing will get better.They like scapegoats. They fight among each other. There is so much hate going on how can anything run well? Maybe the Town of Hempstead is not better but at least there would be new life. The group that runs the village is old and on it's way out. They don't listen and they don't care. They only do for them and their friends and people with money. When people start to run against them the people running get their fences and cars trashed. It is the way of the white trash. It is not white pride it is white shame. The litter is mounting here by the docks no one cleans it and no one puts out trash cans. One of the benches up on Main St.had the same trash on it for over a week until someone cleaned it up. All the people who think this place will change need to wake up and look. Very few people walked down the streets here and look and see. The street sweeper that cleans Main St is from the Town of Hempstead. The one from the village does not clean very well. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: waterfront cost? Author: Anonymous [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:08:29 10/26/03 Sun "Until the village government changes this will continue" I couldn't agree more. What I strongly disagree with you on is when you say the Village should allow our sovereignty to be usurped by the Town of Hempstead. "Since all the parties of policial stand in the village do the same old thing year after year nothing will get better." Have you heard about the Village Pride Party? So far, I have not been to any meetings, but I am very interested in the possibilities of an opposition to the Unity Party. Morgan, you say that the "good ole boys" have been in charge for years, but at the same time you claim that you were chummy enough with an ex mayor that he would call you from his death bed. "My reason for stating that the Town should take over is because unlike Rockville Centre or Lynbrook, East Rockaway is a small town where everybody knows everybody and if you are not friends of the Village board members or the DPW or the Fire Department, then you don't count" I think you need to speak with more people from Lynbrook & RVC. You will find that back-scratching is prevalent in every American community to some degree. As for the KKK comments, they are pure madness. Is there racism in East Rockaway? Absolutely. Is it within the realm of possibility that members of the Village government may harbor prejudices? Of course. But the KKK? Let's grow up, shall we? "If you go to the meetings and talk to different people around the Village, you will see that many people are not happy with the way the Village is run." I happen to be among those who feel there should be swift changes in ER government. However, I happen to feel that the best way to achieve that is through internal means, not by ceding power to the Town of Hempstead. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Yes Josh the KKK is alive Author: Anonymous [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 21:27:29 10/26/03 Sun Yes Josh the KKK is alive and well in East Rock and has been for for almost a hundred years, If you don't believe me go for a walk down Williamson St. Start looking and seeing how many cars and trucks have confedrate flags and other signs on them. Look for the skin head hair cuts. This KKK has blended with the neo nazis. Wake up and look and see what you are missing.They not even hide it that well. You just need to know what to look for. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Yes Josh the KKK is alive Author: Anonymous [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 23:08:39 10/26/03 Sun Look, I'm not thrilled to see Confederate flags any more than the next guy, but that is in no way an indication of the KKK setting up shop in East Rockaway. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Yes Josh the KKK is alive Author: Anonymous [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 23:27:35 10/26/03 Sun I am surprized you don't know about them. You seem to know so much about this Village and yet you nothing of the Klan being here. They are here and if you don't believe me I am sorry for you. By not thinking they are here you are now free to go back to your dream world of the wonderful little village that could. They have been in this area for years at the docks. This is thier spot and hang out. Some have moved to the VTE since they don't like the new Duck owner. However some of the upper Klan crust still drinks there after five. That way they can listen in what people have to say. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Yes Josh the KKK is alive Author: Anonymous [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 01:37:33 10/27/03 Mon look up LI history and you will find that the KKK presented the Church of the Nazarene a flag in the 1920's and attended services there. That church is still up and running on Ocean Ave. I do believe the KKK is alive and well in ER, they are just not as obvious as they were in the 20's. Don't forget, the Village was sued for a racial remark it made to a marina owner about renting to blacks. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Yes Josh the KKK is alive Author: Anonymous [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:15:57 10/27/03 Mon What does 1920 have to do with 2003? It is also worth noting that that period of time is when the KKK reached their peak popularity in the United States. Do you care to name the KKK members specifically or are you just here to scare people? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Yes Josh the KKK is alive Author: Anonymous [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:34:54 10/27/03 Mon you seem to like to give everybody who has a negative opinion of your "wonderland" a history lesson and what you fail to realize is that, yes, although the 1920's were the peak of the KKK, the racist ideas are still very much present in ER due to the fact that many of the residents are third and fourth generation who have lived in ER all their lives as have their descendants. I won't name names since I am sure you and the Village idiots would love to sue for slander. The intent is not to scare anybody, but you need to realize that ER is not what you have it made out to be. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Yes Josh the KKK is alive Author: Anonymous [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:38:34 10/27/03 Mon I know the KKK is here because the KKK members are the scabby looking people who used to go to the Wild Duck and most of them have left because the Wild Duck is getting cleaned up. Joey is right "Josh" might be one of those people who loves to sue. The KKK looks more like white shame than white pride. There has been a growth in the KKK because the leader of the pack in ER has spent many a year going to bars and getting all the scabby crack heads to sign up. The leader here is a big time drunk and can't stay out of a bar. The KKK is what is keep East Rock a crap hole. They are making East Rock into what they say thier image the blacks will do. The blacks that live here are very clean and neat and much nicer than the creepy drunken drug taking KKK. The KKK here is also blended with the neo nazi groups. Many of them have Hitler pictures up on the walls. Creepy people. These are hate groups and hate groups are cults and they do much brainwashing. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Yes Josh the KKK is alive Author: Anonymous [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:26:52 05/18/04 Tue "Yes Josh the KKK is alive and well in East Rock and has been for for almost a hundred years, If you don't believe me go for a walk down Williamson St. Start looking and seeing how many cars and trucks have confedrate flags and other signs on them. Look for the skin head hair cuts. This KKK has blended with the neo nazis. Wake up and look and see what you are missing.They not even hide it that well. You just need to know what to look for." There IS a difference between having a Confederate flag and being in the Klan. If you take a walk down Williamson Street towards Bay Park, you will see a car with a Che Guevara sticker on it. Does that mean that East Rockaway is being infiltrated by Communists? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Yes Josh the KKK is alive Author: Anonymous [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 22:28:17 05/22/04 Sat Morgan has noticeably decided to ignore the above post. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Yes Josh the KKK is alive Author: Anonymous [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 22:39:31 05/22/04 Sat I also find it remarkable that you are so overwhelmingly supportive of property rights in regards to destroying a building and potentially releasing asbestos into the air, but vehemently against the right of the individual to fly a Confederate flag. I am not a Confederate, nor do I condone the flag or what it represents. But if a homeowner feels compelled to hoist it, they are totally within their legal rights to do so. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: waterfront cost? Author: Anonymous [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:48:36 10/27/03 Mon Yes, back-scratching is in every community, but I have many friends and associates in Lynbrook and RVC and the favoritism may not be as obvious as in ER...my point being that it is a small town and many people have lived here for years, generation after generation, and that adds to the imbalance in the way the village is run. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: waterfront cost? Author: Anonymous [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 22:14:00 10/25/03 Sat The Town of Hempstead would have no reason to be more sympathetic because when they do a project, they do an impact study first and announce it at the town meetings so people are aware of what is going on in the town. When the Village put the lights up, there was no announcement or impact study done. All of a sudden, the lights were up and shining on all of the houses around the park. If you look at the lights, there are no shields to block the lights from hitting the houses. All of the fields in the town of Hempstead, and in the Villages of Rockville Centre and Lynbrook have them. Also, the other Villages have a parking lot for the athletic fields that East Rockaway does not. My reason for stating that the Town should take over is because unlike Rockville Centre or Lynbrook, East Rockaway is a small town where everybody knows everybody and if you are not friends of the Village board members or the DPW or the Fire Department, then you don't count. You will continue to have the same mentality running the Village and you need new leadership. We both know that nobody wants the job of Mayor or board member and if you are a newcomer, you won't get the votes because everybody votes for who they know. This has been happening for years. If you go to the meetings and talk to different people around the Village, you will see that many people are not happy with the way the Village is run. From your little debates for the Village, no matter what point anyone else brings up, you won't agree. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: waterfront cost? Author: Anonymous [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 21:57:48 10/25/03 Sat that's right, they are under the Town of Hempstead, but are still part of East Rockaway because their children go to East Rockaway schools. As for the plowing, the Village DPW plows all the snow into their streets, basically blocking them in. I have seen that done. Luckily, the Town of Hempstead plow comes through quickly enough to plow them out. This has also been stated at the Village board meetings that I have attended. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: waterfront cost? Author: Anonymous [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:13:46 10/26/03 Sun "that's right, they are under the Town of Hempstead, but are still part of East Rockaway because their children go to East Rockaway schools." I don't think you understand how this jurisdiction works. The citizens of Bay Park, although they have East Rockaway mailing addresses and send their children to East Rockaway public schools, have their basic services provided by the Town of Hempstead, not the Village. TOH collects their garbage, plows their streets, etc. because the Village does not have the authority to do this on land that isn't theirs. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: waterfront cost? Author: Anonymous [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:41:01 10/27/03 Mon I understand exactly how this jurisdiction works. My point was, they (Angle Sea and as you pointed out, Bay Park) are still a part of the East Rockaway community because their children attend ER schools, regardless of who provides their services. Also, the residents that I know in these two areas have no complaints about the services they are provided by the TOH. Their problem lies in the fact that they are deliberately plowed in by ER DPW. Luckily for them, the TOH plows faster than ER DPW because the DPW seems to plow the mayor's street and anyone related to Village government or the DPW first. Don't try to tell me this isn't done, because I have witnessed this first hand. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]