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Date Posted: 17:12:21 06/18/02 Tue
Author: WOG
Author Host/IP: 64.187.5.59
Subject: The Big Quote ---Grace for Don
In reply to: Stan 's message, "More News on the Watchtower" on 01:35:05 06/17/02 Mon

D> Nothing but a bunch of
dead words, means nothing what so ever, might as well be reading a story by Steven King
for that is worth.

W> Of course they are dead to you Don. That's the difference. To you they are dead, to me they are life. They are a light on my pathway. They give direction, tell me where I err, show me the reality of life, give me answers to life most important questions, give me comfort and assurance when I have bad days, strengthen me with the truth, show what is truth and what is false in life. What else do you want to know?

It affirms that which is of God. When the Holy Spirit quickens a person dead in sin, something inside changes and you are not the same person you were previously. It is not the same as turning over a new lease on life, because that concerns itself with the temporal. This change is Spiritual and changes the person to things that are "eternal". Things that happen after this life but begin in this life.

About grace? Don I've mentioned many times I was a hardcore drug addict that really wanted to quit but didn't know how because I didn't see anything better than drugs. That was my blindness. Everyone has their own blindness. Some are even blind with their religion. Some are even blinded by their egos. But one day that all change with me. It wasn't me that changed it, it was God. quickening me by the Holy Spirit. It was as if I was in complete darkness and all of a sudden a light came on. It isn't the same way with everybody but that's the way it was with me. That's God's grace. He saw something in this hardcore drug pushing addict that could bring glory to Him. That's grace, it's giving favor to a person who doesn't deserve it. That was 32 years ago and it gets better everyday. Not really materially but Spiritually and really how much is everlasting joy worth anyway? It's priceless, worth giving up my selfish life for. And it's guaranteed.

D> or just go a head and quote your verses... quote them till the day you die and no
one will never know what the love of god was to you.


W> Yes they will Don. You don't know that but I do. Sadly, most will see it on the other of this life. When it will be too late, they will say why didn't I just listen to what he was saying and check it out instead of joining the big crowd of scoffers that were against him. That day is coming Don, as sure as yesterday happened that day is coming.

D> Bottom line is you are a man as any other, you show that every day. You are out to get an
emotional high of some kind, every single day.

W> That's a very thoughtful opinion Don but honestly now were did you get it? Is it not from your own thinking? And has that thinking always been 100% correct? If you are honest Don you know you haven't always been correct. Neither have I so who HAS always been correct? Ans. Jesus the God-man.

D> What pictures do you have in your mind when you talk about Hell.
What does hell look like to you?

W> To me Don hell is a place where there is no longer help. Like treading water forever and ever and never a hand reaching out to you to pull you in. It's your choice Don but it must be made in this life. There is no second chance. You don't believe hell's there? Then don't. That won't make it go away though.

D> ? How does that make you feel-- The fear is Kind of
cool..... that is where you keep putting people so they might as well talk back to you as
they fry in your imagination.... you must enjoy that. What are they saying WOG... what
are they screaming to you?

W> They are screaming we don't want your God. We choose hell. I respond----just so you know it is YOU that chose it. So I'll finish this posting with this.


John 20:31
31 But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you "may" have life in his name.
(NIV)

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