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Date Posted: 13:31:45 08/08/02 Thu
Author: SAK-47
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Subject: here's the question WOGGIE

Subject: demon jack's and the Word of Faith heretics false teacher Finished Off Dake, exposed

Dake's Dubious Doctrine(http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/trwmainst/dake.html)

While many have documented various aberrational teachings within the modern Christian church, predominantly within what has come to be known as the "word-faith" movement, few have taken a continuing strong position against what is, perhaps, a greater danger to the church at large. Many are familiar with persons such as Benny Hinn or Kenneth Copeland who both have very large and influential ministries with global impact. Some are familiar with names like E.W. Kenyon, considered by many to be the true origin of the word-faith doctrines, and his association with the metaphysical movement earlier in this century. However, as the battle continues over this or that fragmented doctrine coming from these "teachers" (which in all good conscience should continue), we seem to take no notice of a source of unsound teaching little discussed and even endorsed by many. I am herein referring to the Dake's Annotated Reference Bible which sells at a rate of approximately 30,000 per year and has been called "The Pentecostal Study Bible".

Many have felt that the impact of Finis Dake's work has diminished through the course of time since its first publication in 1963. Although the sales of his Annotated Reference Bible have been perhaps greater at other times, his impact has taken on global proportions through the ministries of such people as Joyce Meyers, Marilyn Hickey, Rod Parsley, Creflo Dollar, Ralph Wilkerson, Jimmy Swaggart, Jerry Seville, Rita Bennett, and, of course, Benny Hinn. These people have used, endorsed, and, apparently, developed much of their theology from Dake materials. In the case of Benny Hinn, he admitted having taught his congregation from Dake's Gods Plan forMan to Charisma magazine in the August, 1993 issue (page 25). (It was here Hinn was asked to comment on his statement regarding "nine members of the Godhead".) The legacy and teaching of Finis Dake indeed lives on, then, in these persons. His influence continuing, unabated, multiplied many times over, in books, tapes and now broadcast 24 hours a day on international "Christian" television. The only thing absent from the teaching which continues today, is the name "Dake".

Although some of the notations found within the Dake bible may be helpful to understand occasional historic perspectives from which scripture was written, Finis J. Dake has tread into areas of doctrine which not only do not represent the "pentecostal" position, but are found to be contrary to the doctrinal position of the Christian church throughout history. Primarily, I am concerned with what would be considered "major" doctrines" of the church: the Trinity, the nature of Jesus, and the nature of God. These will be the focus of this study, leaving for another time Dake's teachings of a pre-Adamic world created for Lucifer and the demons, the impregnation of women by demons to pollute the human blood line, Job's utter sinfulness during his time of testing, and Jonah's death inside the "whale".

The import of this critique cannot be underestimated. Correct understanding of Jesus (who he is and what he did) and of God (his nature and character) is precisely the line that separates a Christian believer from a Jehovah's Witness or a member of the Church of Jesus Christ Latter Day Saints. While it is recognized that we have, in many areas, liberty in Christ to hold slightly differing positions on some doctrines (ie: drinking of wine, which day to honor as the sabbath, forms of church government, etc.), it is also recognized that there are central truths within the Christian church which must be held to in order to continue to be "in the Church".

With these things in mind, we will examine the doctrinal position of Finis J. Dake on several points and compare his position to that of the historical Christian church.

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According to Dake : (all emphasis in original quotes)
Note : All quotations taken from the Dake's Annotated Reference Bible -- Seventeenth Printing March, 1986

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The Nature of God --

"He is a person with a personal spirit body, a personal soul, and a personal spirit, like that of angels and like that of man except His body is of spirit substance instead of flesh and bones." (Dake's Annotated Reference Bible, N.T. pg. 97, note r)

"He has a personal spirit body... shape... image and likeness of a man... He has bodily parts such as, back parts... heart... hands and fingers... mouth... lips and tongue... feet... eyes... ears... hair... head... face... arms... loins... and other bodily parts."
(Ibid.)

"He has a bodily presence, and goes from place to place in a body like all other persons."
(Ibid.)

"He has a voice, breath, and countenance. He wears clothes, eats, rests, dwells in a mansion and in a city located on a material planet called Heaven."
(Dake's Annotated Reference Bible, N.T. pg. 97-96, note r)

"He has been seen bodily many times."
(Dake's Annotated Reference Bible, N.T. pg. 96, note r, continued)

"This plainly teaches that God, as well as men and angels, is limited to one place as far as the body is concerned. The doctrine of omnipresence of God can be proved, but not His omnibody. In His body He goes from place to place like other persons."
(Dake's Annotated Reference Bible, O.T. pg. 15, note n)

"Here we have another proof that God receives knowledge of true conditions and becomes acquainted with existing facts." (Dake's Annotated Reference Bible, O.T. pg 15, note m)

While Scripture is certainly filled with various descriptive language concerning God, these verses have always been interpreted as ways that God has used to explain himself in language we can comprehend as humans. To give literal meaning to anthropomorphic language becomes absurd when considering the many passages of Scripture which speak of God having "wings" (Ps. 17:8), being a "fortress" (Ps. 18: 2), "a hen" (Matt. 23:37) and "a tower" (Prov. 18:10). Metaphoric illustration to describe an infinite being to finite mortals is not only appropriate, it is necessary. Understanding how energy is transferred to heat to make toast can be difficult. The structure of DNA molecules is still beyond the reach of most intelligent people. Understanding an eternal God, omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient will only occur on that day when we will know him as we are known, and that in his kingdom.

While it remains unclear as to why Finis Dake should think that a body made of "spirit substance" has need of a "heart" (a muscle whose only function is to move blood throughout the vascular system), it is clear that by insisting on literal interpretations where anthropomorphic language is used, Dake has made God in our image and likeness. Finis Dake realizes, also, that a body which "goes from place to place like all other persons" does tend to create problems with the concept of omnipresence as well. He explains this to his readers on page 81 in his concordance by saying : "God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are all present where there are beings with whom they have dealings; but they are not omnibody, that is, their bodies are not omnipresent. All three go from place to place bodily as other beings in the universe do". Using orthodox language to create the illusion of doctrinal correctness, then replacing the accepted definition for one of your own making, is a tactic usually reserved for Jehovah's Witness' and Mormons. Mr. Dake, however, rises to the challenge to defend his beliefs using any and all means necessary, including the creation of a new term, "omnibody".

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