Because you don't understand free will -- The Word Was God

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Date Posted: 12:46:28 04/18/02 Thu
Author: WOG
Author Host/IP: 64.187.5.24
Subject: Because you don't understand free will
In reply to: squeak 's message, "What???" on 08:43:11 04/18/02 Thu

God knows beforehand who will excercise their free will and respond to His calling. Remember, God is an infinite being and perfect in all His ways. We are finite and cannot possibly see what He sees. God's plan and purpose is accomplished through the very free will choices we make.

Look at Luke 22:22

Luke 22:22
22 "And truly the Son of Man goes as it has been determined, but woe to that man by whom He is betrayed!"
(NKJ)

Jesus Christ was always going to the cross, but the fulfilment was made by the free will choice of Judas Iscariot. It was the choice that Judas made that brought about the predetermined plan and purpose of God.
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Now the verse quoted in my posting are like this.

Rom 9:13-21
13 Just as it is written: "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."
14 What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all!
15 For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."
16 It does not, therefore, depend on man's desire or effort, but on God's mercy.
17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh: "I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth."
18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.
19 One of you will say to me: "Then why does God still blame us? For who resists his will?"
20 But who are you, O man, to talk back to God? "Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, 'Why did you make me like this?'"
21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for common use? (NIV)

Esau gave up his birthright, for food. That was his decision. But God worked out and continued His plan and purpose from that decision. Was God unfair? No it was Esau's choice. The same with Pharoah. When Pharoah chose to harden His heart God was able to work out His plan and demonstrate His power through Pharoah's decision. God's plan cannot be thwarted no matter how much we would like to delay it or change it.

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Replies:

Maybe b/c it is never once mentioned in the Bible -- squeak, 08:17:32 04/19/02 Fri
- Everybody going to heaven isn't in the Bible either squeak -- WOG, 08:52:23 04/19/02 Fri
  - Maybe heaven isn't -- squeak, 09:37:17 04/19/02 Fri