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Date Posted: 00:13:49 09/25/01 Tue
Author: Thiyagarajan
Subject: Re: Attack On America
In reply to: Mohan 's message, "Attack On America" on 03:07:55 09/13/01 Thu

Most of us hate to be ignorant.
Most of us are ignorant about Islam... that's DANGEROUS. Hence read on..

Given the stupefying enormity of the acts of barbarism of 11 September, moral outrage is appropriate and justified, as are demands for punishment and reprisals. But what is not justified or permissible in a civilized
society is acts of vengeance by lynch mobs who blindly attack all those whom they perceive as "Muslims" or Arabs. Not all Muslims are terrorists.

Not all Muslims are implicated in the horrendous events of Tuesday. Police protection for individual Muslims, mosques and other institutions must be increased.

However, to pretend that ISLAM has nothing to do with the WTC atrocity is to willfully ignore the obvious ..In fact, without Islam the long-term strategy and individual acts of violence by Usama bin Laden and his followers
make little sense. and the West will go on being incapable of understanding them, and hence the West will also be incapable of dealing with them..

Jihad is "a religious war with those who are unbelievers in the mission of Muhammad [the Prophet]. It is an incumbent religious duty, established in the Qur'an and in the Traditions as a divine institution, and enjoined
specially for the purpose of advancing Islam and repelling evil from Muslims." The world is divided into two spheres, Dar al-Islam and Dar al Harb. The latter, the Land of Warfare, is a country belonging to infidels
which has not been subdued by Islam. The Dar al Harb becomes the Dar-al Islam, the Land of Islam, upon the promulgation of the edicts of Islam. Thus the totalitarian nature of Islam is nowhere more apparent than in the
concept of Jihad, the Holy War, whose ultimate aim is to conquer the entire world and submit it to the one true faith, to the law of Allah.

To Islam alone has been granted the truth: there is no possibility of salvation outside it. Muslims must fight, and kill in the name of Allah.

The Qur'an in this context is a veritable terrorists' vade mecum: we read
(sura IX. verses 5-6: "Kill those who join other gods with God wherever you may find them";
or again at IV.76: Those who believe fight in the cause of God;
or VIII.38: Say to the Infidels: if they desist from their unbelief, what is now past shall be forgiven; but if they return to it, they have already before them the doom of the ancients! Fight then against them
till strife be at an end, and the religion be all of it Allah's."

Those who die fighting for the only true religion, Islam, will be amply rewarded in the life to come: IV.74: "Let those who fight in the cause of God who barter the life of this world for that which is to come ; for
whoever fights on God's path, whether he is killed or triumphs, We will give him a handsome reward".

The Koran is also a manual of hate, intolerance. Here are some more verses to prove it:

* Torment to Non-believers->IV.56
* Only Islam Acceptable-> III.85
* No friends from outsiders->III.118
* No friends with Jews,Christians->V.51
* No friends with non believers->IV.144, III.28
* No friends with parents/siblings if not believers->IX.23
* Fight non-believers->IX.123
* Kill non-believers->IV.89
* Anti Jew verses->V.82
* God a "plotter"->VIII.30
* Killing Idolaters->IX.5
* Idolaters are unclean just because they are idolater->IX.28
* Forcing non-believers to pay tax->IX.29
* The Torment of Hell->XLIV.43-58
* All except Muslims/Jews/Christians/Sabeans will go to hell->II.62,V.69
* Cast terror in the hearts, smite the neck and cut fingertips of unbelievers->VIII.12
* smite the neck of unbelievers->XLVII.4
* Severe Punishment for atheists->X.4 ; V.10 ; V.86
* Severe Punishment for non-believers->XXII.19-22 ; LXXII.23, XCVIII.6
* Punishing non-believers of Hereafter->XVII.10
* Punishing for rejecting faith->III.91
* Non believers go to hell->IV.140 ; VII.36
* Partial Believers go to hell too->IV.150-1
* Sadistic punishments->LVI.42-43
* Punishment for apostates->XVI.106 ; III.86-88 ; III.90 ; IV.137.
* Threat of punishment for not going to war->IX.38-39, XLVIII.16
* God making someone more sinful so he can be punished more->III178
* Intentionally preventing unbelievers from knowing the truth->VI.25 ;VI.110
* Intentionally preventing unbelievers from Understanding Quran->XVII.45-46
* It is God who causes people to err and He punishes them for that->XVII.97
* God could guide, if he chose to, but did not->VI.35
* Intentionally misguiding those whom he pleases to->XIV.4
* Willfully misguiding some->XVI.93
* God causes human to err->IV.143 ; VII.178
* God deceiving human->IV.142

It is surely time for us, who live in the West, and enjoy Freedom of statement to examine fearlessly the tenets of these fanatics. This will mean looking unflinchingly and unapologetically at the Qur'ran which divinely sanctions violence. It will mean examining unapologetically the life of the Prophet who was not above political assassinations, and who was responsible for the massacre of the Jews.

"Ah, but you are confusing Islam with Islamic fundamentalism. The Real Islam has nothing to do with violence," apologists of Islam argue. There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate. Islam itself is a fascist ideology. There is no difference between Islam and Islamic fundamentalism, at most there is a difference of degree but not of kind.

All the tenets of Islamic fundamentalism are derived from the Koran, the Sunna, the Hadith-Islamic fundamentalism is a totalitarian construct derived by Muslim jurists from the fundamental and defining texts of Islam. The Islamists with greater logic and coherence than so-called moderate or liberal Muslims have made Islam the basis of a radical utopian ideology.It wishes to replace capitalism and liberalism as the reigning world
system.

Islamism accounts for the anti-American hatred to be found in places far from the Arab-Israeli conflict, like Nigeria and Afghanistan. Thus the conflict in the Middle East cannot legitimately be used to explain this
phenomenon called Islamism. If a Palestinian was involved in the WTC bombings, he will be seen as a martyr to the Palestinian cause, but even more as a martyr to Islam.

"Ah, but Islamic fundamentalism is like any other kind of fundamentalism, one must not demonise it. It is the result of political, social grievances. It must be explained in terms of economics and not religion," continue
the apologists of Islam. There is an enormous difference between Islamic fundamentalism and any other
kind of fundamentalism. It is indeed true that Hindu, Jewish, and Christian fundamentalists have been responsible for acts of violence, but these have been confined to particular countries and regions. Only Islamic
fundamentalism has universal aspirations, has a global agenda, that is the submission of the entire world to the all-embracing Sharia, Islamic Law, which is a fascist system of dictates designed to control every single
act of all individuals. Nor do Hindus, and Jews seek to convert the world to their religion. Christians do indulge in proselytism but do not use acts of violence, or international terrorism to achieve their aims.

It is only Islam that treats non-Muslims as inferior beings who are expendable in Islam's drive to world hegemony. Under Islam any means are justified to achieve the ends of establishing an Islamic world
community.

Islamic fundamentalists recruit among MUSLIM populations, they appeal to ISLAMIC religious symbols, and they motivate their recruits with ISLAMIC doctrine derived from the Koran. Economic poverty alone cannot explain
the phenomenon of Islamism. Poverty in Brazil or Mexico City has not resulted in Christian fundamentalist acts of international terror. It is what the Islamists see as Western materialism itself that they are against. For
Islamists, the choice is clear: Islam or jahiliyya. The latter term is redefined to mean modern-style jahiliyya of modern industrialised societies of Europe and America, where man is under the dominion of man rather
than Allah. They totally reject the system of values of the Democratic West,which they feel is poisoning Islamic culture. So, no it is NOT just a question of economics, it is a question of an entirely different world view,
which they wish to impose on the whole world. Sayyid Qutb, the very influential Egyptian Muslim thinker, said that " dominion should be reverted to Allah alone, namely to Islam, that holistic system He conferred upon
men.An all-out offensive, a jihad, should be waged against modernity so that this moral rearmament could take place. The ultimate objective is to re-establish the Kingdom of Allah upon earth..."

It is also time surely for moderate Muslims to stand up and be counted. I should like to see them do three things:

All moderate Muslims should unequivocally denounce this barbarism, should condemn it for what it is, butchery of innocent people, All moderate Muslims who are citizens of the United States should proclaim their Americanness, their patriotism, and their solidarity with the families of the victims. They should show their pride in their country by giving blood, and other aid to victims and their families.

All moderate Muslims should take this opportunity to examine honestly the tenets of their faith ; should look at the Qur'an, recognize its role in the instigation of religious violence, and see it for what it is, a seriously
flawed human document reflecting 7th or perhaps 8th Century values which we have outgrown.

While it should not be too difficult for moderate Muslims to accept to denounce the violence of Terrorist Tuesday, I am not at all optimistic about their courage or willingness to proclaim their love for their chosen
country, the USA or examine the Qur'an scientifically.First, many Muslims, unfortunately are taught from an early age that they their first allegiance is to Islam. Then they are exhorted in sermons in mosques, and in books by Muslim intellectuals that if the laws of the land they find themselves in conflict with any of the tenets of Islam, then Muslims must break the laws of the infidels, and only follow the Law of God, the Sharia, Islamic Law.

It is a remarkable fact that at the time of the Gulf War, most Muslims living in the West supported Saddam Hussein. In the aftermath of the WTC terror, it is now clear from many reports from the media that most
Muslims, EVEN those living in the West, see these acts of barbarism as acts of heroism, they give their unequivocal support to their chosen hero,Usama bin Laden.

Finally, Muslims have also shown themselves incapable of scrutinising their scared text rationally. Indeed any criticism of their religious tenets is taken as an insult to their faith, for which so many Muslims seem
ready to kill (as in the Rushdie Affair or the Taslima Nasreen Affair). The fact that so many Muslims in the West see terrorists such as Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden as heroes means there has been a total failure
of assimilation and integration. Indeed assimilation and integration are no longer in vogue. Multiculturalism has been the fashion, since the 1960s.The notion that one could produce a good little American out of raw
immigrants is now condemned as chauvinism, racism, cultural imperialism, or cultural genocide.

But Multiculturalism is based on some fundamental misconceptions.First, there is the erroneous and sentimental belief that all cultures, deep down, have the same values; or if these values are different, they are all
equally worthy of respect. Multiculturalism, being the child of relativism, is incapable of criticising cultures, of making cross-cultural judgments. The truth is that not all cultures have the same values, and not all values are worthy of respect. Respect for other cultures, for other values than our own are a
hall-mark of a civilised attitude. But if these other values are destructive of our own cherished values, are we not justified in fighting them-by intellectual means, that is by reason and argument, and criticism, and legal means,by making sure the laws and constitution of the country are respected by all?

It becomes a duty to defend those values that we would live by. But here Western intellectuals have sadly failed in defending these Western values, such as rationalism, social pluralism, human rights, the rule of law,
representative government, individualism (in the sense that every individual counts, and no individual should be sacrificed for some utopian future collective end), freedom of statement and freedom of and from
religion,therights of minorities, and so on.Instead, the so-called experts on Islam in Western universities, in the media, churches and even government bureaus have become witting and unwitting apologists of Islam. They must take part responsibility for creating an atmosphere of intellectual terrorism where any criticism of Islam is denounced as fascism, racism, "orientalism." It is they who must take responsibility for lulling the public into thinking that "The Islamic Threat "was a myth. It is our duty to fight this intellectual terrorism.It is our duty to defend the values of a liberal democracy. One hopes that in the days to come the U.S. government will not act in such a way that more innocent lives are lost, albeit on the other side of the globe. One hopes that even now there is a legal way out in International Courts of Law. The situation is far more delicate and complex than a simplebattle between good and evil, the solution is not to beat the hell out of all Arabs and Muslims but nor is to pretend that Islam had nothing to do with it, for that would be to bury one's head in the Sands of Araby

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