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Subject: Re: ucfm and ulc Author: In the name of all others who had the same experience [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 15:39:29 05/08/06 Mon In reply to: Fred 's message, "Re: ucfm and ulc" on 08:39:07 05/08/06 Mon Dear Pastor Fred, We (the many before you) recognise the situation. We have been in the same situation you are in. Some of us were couragious enough to be explicit about the how and why, and some did not. Please understand what was done to you and all others is a sin (if you were forced to lay down leadership). May the Lord bless you and keep you. Now and always, This [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: ucfm and ulc Author: Joan [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:03:33 05/08/06 Mon I agree with Peter. The lack of love and care and the threads to take away even your ordination is not uncommon for UCFM. It happened to many of us. Fred Nero, just remember we have experienced the same. You may be a pastor at this moment, but as soon as the senior pastor Fred will notice that you are hurt, he will take this away as well. Please remember that this is not something that can be taken away by a human being. Nor can it be given by a human being. So be not afraid of what can happen. Be not intimidated. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: ucfm and ulc Author: Fred [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:30:05 05/08/06 Mon Thank You Both Just for the record, There is ONE thing I am definately NOT and that is INTIMIDATED by a mere mortal(s). Never have been and dont plan to start now. For those that know me, you know at times I shoot from the hip and can be pretty edgy at times, thats How Poppa made me. You all be Blessed as well for as we can come into agreement on some things and disagree on others we can always agree that WE are the CHURCH, not my ministry, your ministry or UCFM ministry, so we CAN agree to disagree and still walk together!!! Many have not figured that out yet---Too Bad.! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: ucfm and ulc Author: desiree [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:05:24 05/09/06 Tue I am glad you are not hurt or intimidated. I know I was very hurt, crushed as spreading the gospel became very difficult without ordination. I forgive you, even though you did not ask for it. Hope you are at complete health soon and give my love to Shirl who is experiencing the same as I was then. God bless you! We will meet again in heaven, we are the church. Desiree [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: ucfm and ulc Author: Fred [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:04:06 07/02/06 Sun Seems I was wrong on my stance on this thread for after investigating this much much further it appears I was in error and beg forgiveness for being part of the "stiffnecked" group and blindly defending ucfm. I have found MORE on ulc's sites than anythiong ucfm has to offer or is planning to offer and seems ucfm wants to offer what ulc already has but for "christians" only. (whoever gets to deceide that). in anycase as an fyi i have gone back to ulc and ficotw as the seem to be more "real" Thank you and good night and goodbye! http://www.myspace.com/pastorfred http://wingsofaith.net [ Post a Reply to This Message ]