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Subject: If we are ordained by ucfm are we licensed also or is that seperate? Author: Rev. Darwin [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 17:30:01 11/18/04 Thu Just wondering [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: If we are ordained by ucfm are we licensed also or is that seperate? Author: Asst Sr Pastor Fred [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:37:36 11/22/04 Mon Rev Darwin----what is it you seek licensure for? As an ordained minister you should be able to administer all Christian rites and ceremonies as a Christian Minister. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: If we are ordained by ucfm are we licensed also or is that seperate? Author: REV. DARWIN [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:41:23 11/23/04 Tue Hi pastor fred I was just wondering? Thanks [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: If we are ordained by ucfm are we licensed also or is that seperate? Author: RevBroadus [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:47:36 12/21/04 Tue It is my understanding, from prior denominational standpoint that licensing is a step on the way to ordination, as practiced in most denominations. With that, one could be licensed but not ordained, but if one is ordained, then licensure is automatically covered. Licensing authorized a lesser level of rights and priviledges so being ordained, licensure is already covered. I hope this helps. By the grace of God, Kelvin [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Performing marriages in California, Info Author: MarkM [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 20:50:50 12/21/04 Tue I did some reaserch and this is what I found for the State of CA Note the part between the dotted lines (added by me). http://www.dhs.ca.gov/hisp/chs/OVR/Marriage/FAQ.htm Where do I register to perform marriages in California? The laws of the State of California make it unnecessary for persons performing marriages to file credentials with the clerk of the court or with anyone else. ----------------- The county and state are removed from any responsibility for verification of credentials. The State does not maintain a central registry of members of the clergy. Any such concern for verification is totally at the discretion of the parties to the marriage. ----------------- What authorization do I need to perform a marriage in California? In California, it is the ordination or investment by the denomination that gives each clergy member the authority to perform the marriage rite. Family Code, Sections 400-402 are the statutes pertaining to whom can solemnize a marriage in California. Family Code, Sections 400-402 CALIFORNIA CODES FAMILY.CODE SECTION 400-402 400. Marriage may be solemnized by any of the following who is of the age of 18 years or older: (a) A priest, minister, or rabbi of any religious denomination. (b) A judge or retired judge, commissioner of civil marriages or retired commissioner of civil marriages, commissioner or retired commissioner, or assistant commissioner of a court of record in this state. (c) A judge or magistrate who has resigned from office. (d) Any of the following judges or magistrates of the UnitedStates: (1) A justice or retired justice of the United States Supreme Court. (2) A judge or retired judge of a court of appeals, a district court, or a court created by an act of Congress the judges of which are entitled to hold office during good behavior. (3) A judge or retired judge of a bankruptcy court or a tax court. (4) A United States magistrate or retired magistrate. (e) A legislator or constitutional officer of this state or a member of Congress who represents a district within this state, while that person holds office. 401. (a) For each county, the county clerk is designated as a commissioner of civil marriages. (b) The commissioner of civil marriages may appoint deputy commissioners of civil marriages who may solemnize marriages under the direction of the commissioner of civil marriages and shall perform other duties directed by the commissioner. 402. In addition to the persons permitted to solemnize marriages under Section 400, a county may license officials of a nonprofit religious institution, whose articles of incorporation are registered with the Secretary of State, to solemnize the marriages of persons who are affiliated with or are members of the religious institution. The licensee shall possess the degree of doctor of philosophy and must perform religious services or rites for the institution on a regular basis. The marriages shall be performed without fee to the parties. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: If we are ordained by ucfm are we licensed also or is that seperate? Author: The Rev. Bishop Jeffrey S. Burns [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 07:44:43 01/26/05 Wed Brother Darwin: SP Fred Nech issues a letter of license with the credentials package one can purchase. This is separate from the ordination certificate which comes in that package. The letter of license is good for one year, but not all states require that one have a current 'letter of license'--you need only renew the letter, if needed, by paying for a new one each year. The same is true, by the way, of the ID card--although my own ID card has no expiration or issue date on it, apparently they have one now. If this is the case--you will have to order a new one annually. Again, these things are done to comply with local law in various states or other jurisdictions. I do think that the ID card should come in two versions--a 'regular' version with an expiration date, and a more deluxe more elaborate version without the expiration date. Just my thought. Anyhow, hope this clarifies matters. The Rev. Bishop Jeffrey S. Burns [ Post a Reply to This Message ]