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Subject: Re: Reality
Author: Joan	[ Next Thread \| Previous Thread \| Next Message \| Previous Message ] Date Posted: 14:55:46 05/11/06 Thu In reply to: Fred 's message, "Reality" on 03:50:19 05/11/06 Thu Well, Fred, the experience to actually express and reason together was not very pleasant. Why should it be different now? [ Next Thread \| Previous Thread \| Next Message \| Previous Message ]

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Author: Fred [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:55:03 05/11/06 Thu because this board is not under the censorship type rules of the other and i really do believe you have ME confused with another of the same name Give it try you may like ---ask MarkM about it!! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Joan
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Date Posted: 03:41:22 05/12/06 Fri

Thank you for your kind words.
I know that there are two Fred's, Fred Nech and Fred and Shirl Nero. You are no longer in leadership but remain ordained by UCFM.
I also know that censorship is not due to Fred Nech, as he is not much around in UCFM. You Fred Nero was chosen to be around and to see over, although you were in name assistant senior pastor, you had complete power when you were still in leadership.
He may have been around a bit more due to your healthproblems but he does not like to oversee at all. I know the hidden leadership board and what is discussed there. Leaders report to Fred Nech and one can share with other bishops/regional elders on the hidden leadership forum and read the regulations of UCFM and can discuss problems or worse can trash others. Now, I have read this on more than one occasion, for instance calling a lady a trallop and other names. Ex leadership usually are trashed on that forum.
Fred Nero, you are right that this old message board I am writing on now , is not under censorship but that is not due to you but to MarkM.

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Fred
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Date Posted: 10:33:36 05/12/06 Fri

I wasnt referring to this board but to the one as well on wings of faith site http://wingsofaith.net

As to the leaderboard and trollap I dont recall that but doesnt mean it did not occur.

As to trashing ex leaders I did not engage in that that I recall nor do I recall any that did.

In any case you Be Blessed and true for now I am ordained thru UCFM although I am confused on your point on that one, but it is all good

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Author: Joan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:19:40 05/12/06 Fri I am so glad you were innocent of all accusations, I honestly believe what you say is true. Guess it was before your time. Wish you all good but not UCFM [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: me [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 06:19:08 05/26/06 Fri Not talking abput this board taking about the one I have for MY OWN ministry which has nothong to do with ucfm and you are 100% correct about the "secret" leaderboard and what happens there. I Know firsthand----believe me. A big thank you to MarkM as well censorship is bad and the earmark of a ministry on the wrong track [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: fred [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:55:45 06/07/06 Wed guess i have to take back my congrats as it seems and apology posted on this board has been censored---so we have come full circle. To Joan I no longer am ordained by UCFM They suspended me OH WELL Good Bye [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: MarkM [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:58:06 06/07/06 Wed Hi Fred RE: "...this board has been censored" No No NO! Please read this post, and thread. http://www.voy.com/51042/482.html MarkM Jesus Lives [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Joan
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Date Posted: 16:07:19 06/10/06 Sat

Fred and Shirl, you were great!
You have worked very hard for UCFM to honour Christ and to proclaim His Holy Name.
Because UCFM does not thank you, I will!

Thank you for the many, many hours and for all you have tried/accomplished to do for His Kingdom.
UCFM may not thank you, but the Holy Spirit says that Jesus knows all your intentions were good!

I know where you are coming from, I have experienced the EXACT same as you two.

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Author: desiree [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:10:36 06/10/06 Sat I agree 100 %! The same experience over here. May the Lord bless you and keep you Fred and Shirl , now and forever. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: Fred [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 09:29:16 06/11/06 Sun Thank you all so much and hope to see you at WFM someday soon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: Desiree [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 02:43:13 06/28/06 Wed The way people behave is a visible sign . If Christ is present, others will notice.... Here disciples are trashed , sacked, sold and forgotten. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author:
desiree
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Date Posted: 01:48:32 07/04/06 Tue

SO....let us ALL repent and seek the face of the Lord Jesus, Who unites all christians.
Let us seek Him Who is love.
Let us forgive , like He forgave us.

But above all other things, let us worship the Lord and proclaim His Name.

We all have sinned, all of us.
Now let us forgive eachother and keep our faces focussed on the Holy and Lightgiving face of Jesus Christ.

In Jesus Name,
Amen

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Author: Joan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 02:02:00 07/04/06 Tue I agree! For it is Him we seek and not ourselves. It is He Who must be in the centre of things. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]