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Subject: Re: Yes TP with logos.


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Date Posted: 23:09:00 02/23/09 Mon
In reply to: Oldfox 's message, "Yes TP with logos." on 20:48:02 02/23/09 Mon

most of what you say in this post makes sense.

can't see how you can find fault with bob belber though. even more than the maac, the tuc wants siena to win every game. not only because they get more money by having more people at games on saturday, sunday and monday, but if siena goes to tournament, the following season's ticket sales should get a huge bump as well. if siena gets 1,000 more fans per game, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that they arena makes a lot more money. at an average of $20 per ticket x 1,000 fans x 13 games = $260,000 for the TUC to share with Siena.

if you don't think bob belber is in his office praying for siena victories, you are nuts. he has a huge vested interest in siena's success as it contributes greatly to his bottom line. and i am not sure what that matters. i don't think any championships are going to be won or lost by what colors the banners in the lobby are or who the gm of the arena is rooting for. i am sure the gm of hsbc is rooting for a combination of niagara/canisius/siena in the final when in buffalo, but it doesn't matter. he is the host of the tournament and does whatever ensor tells him to. he and the tuc are great hosts for this event.

and btw...no matter where this tournament is held outside of albany, it will be a bust, no matter how much they include it in their "ad planning", etc. buffalo loses $100k+ and they have two schools within 30 minutes.

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Date Posted: 19:36:09 02/24/09 Tue

was my point.

I'm also not gonna dismiss the idea that a three year contract doesn't have an outside chance for another venue, especially a destination attraction/resort like the Mohegan Sun. It will be interesting to see if they bid, or did bid, (sorry don't recall the timeline) just how they plan to market the tournament as part of their destination attractions and what they might want to co-promote with the tournament. It probably also means that they think there is an reachable untapped market for the tournament outside of MAAC fans, since I'm sure they already know what the attendance history of the tournament outside of Albany has been.

The one and done is rotation was not fair (there is that word again) to the other venues, and while it might not make a bit of difference in the case of the HSBC, SBA or some other city or region whose residence have better things to do than spend their entertainment dollars on a middling level basketball tournament, maybe it can catch on in a destination setting like the Sun.

I can't imagine why the MAAC wouldn't want to find another place in addition to the TUC where they could turn a profit regardless of whether the $ are ponied up by basketball fans, Gamblers, the curious or any combination of the former.

JMHO


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