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Subject: Re: Why not us, WHY NOT US?

Author:
baby ruth

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Date Posted: 12:46:59 01/17/09 Sat
In reply to: Yankee 's message, "Why not us, WHY NOT US?" on 21:42:47 01/16/09 Fri

i'll give credit where credit is due. the last two games, marist has looked great. devezin is a star, almost impossible to stay in front of him. hall looks like an above average maac player. schneider is one of the best shooters in the league.

what everyone fails to remember is that marist almost always look great at mccann. that is the problem. until marist improves on the road or the maac tournament is moved to mccann in front of the 2300 people that were there the other night, they will continue to fizzle at every maac championship.

marist obviously is not the worst team in the league but i still don't see them beating anyone of significance away from home.

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[> [> Subject: Actually you are wrong about Schneider...

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Oldfox
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Date Posted: 13:31:58 01/17/09 Sat

he is one of the best players in the the league. Or to quote the Siena Coach, he is playing as well as anyone in the country.

From the MAAC site.

4th in scoring, 2nd in rebounding, 3rd in free throw %, 8th in steals, 5th in 3 point %, 2nd in 3 point field goals made, 10th in block shots, 1st in defensive rebounds and 1st in total minutes played.

Outside of blocked shots (1.0 to 1.1), he is ahead of UUUUUUUUbbbbbiles in every category. What's up with that?

Fair enough assessment of Marist's away performance this year. Don't know if that holds the rest of the year, we'll see. Long way to go.

Don't get the McCann Center thing since we know the Tournament is never gonna happen there. Siena fans ought to be thankful their team get to play it at home whether they stink or not. The more you guys take that for granted the more the Mohegan Sun sounds like a great idea to folks like me.

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Actually you are wrong about Schneider...

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baby ruth
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Date Posted: 15:56:28 01/17/09 Sat

i thought it was pretty obvious that i was being sarcastic about the maac tournament coming to mccann. and as for the home court edge, in the past 15 years, siena has won 2 championships at the TUC and 2 at other arenas (buffalo and trenton). what is the excuse for those other two? "siena has too many fans, that is a huge disadvantage for the other schools?"

regarding schneider...i stand by my comment that he is one of the best shooters. i think you are taking it a bit too far by saying one of the best overall. ubiles is by far the superior player, if you dispute that, you are just being silly. schneider would get a lot of pt for siena but he would not come close to starting for them. if you pay attention to fran's pre or post game comments each game you would realize that every team has a player that is "as good as anyone in the country".

all in all, i give marist credit for having the saints beaten for 38 minutes. good teams win at home and on road. for marist to be considered one of those teams they need to prove they can do both. history proves otherwise, but a new coach could lead to a new future...good luck.

[> [> [> [> Subject: I don't make it a habit of listening to Fran's press conferences....

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Oldfox
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Date Posted: 16:54:21 01/17/09 Sat

but he's been singing Schneider's praises since the pre-season. I'll take the guy at his word, he strikes me as a straight shooter.

Schneider... Ignore the numbers if you want, he is much more than a shooter.

When Kenny is right Ubiles is the 3rd best player on your team. Franklin is the other. People seem mesmerized by his athletic ability. To me, its the other guys that put Siena in a position to win.

No argument about where Marist is right now. They have to win on the road before people can claim they are any kind of contender.

Later!

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: I don't make it a habit of listening to Fran's press conferences....
Author: baby ruth [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:17:53 01/17/09 Sat its just not us who are mesmerized by his athletic ability... http://www.nbadraft.net/mocks/2010_nba_mock_draft.html

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Good for him, I hope he makes it.
Author: Oldfox [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:24:15 01/17/09 Sat

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: I don't make it a habit of listening to Fran's press conferences....

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GGaff
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Date Posted: 10:59:54 01/18/09 Sun

His first step is way too slow. He couldn't do anything when played hard by Marist. He can't get by anyone. He'll shoot over people but that doesn't happen in the NBA. It's sort of like boxing. Get up close and a guy with reach is rendered useless. I don't think Ubiles has a quick first step. If you leave him room to move he's tough. Get right up on him and he can't really do much. If you could combine him and Hasbrouck you'd have something. Not saying that he isn't a great MAAC player. The NBA guys are so good it's scary. I watched a few unsung heroes on Wake Forest who are going to be NBA players. Teague has some real high flyers on that squad. They're the best team I've seen. That includes Carolina...