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Date Posted: 05:32:16 07/07/17 Fri
Author: Knuit Holt
Subject: MEDICAL AND PSYCOLOGICAL ORDEALS IN CHILDHOOD AND TEENHOOD - interesting polls and stories



Interesting polls about events in childhood, teenhood and adulthood


Collected, edited and analyzed by Knut Holt

aquila_grande@yahoo.no

Please also see his websites with interesting information about alternative treatments, fitness and sex

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm

http://www.mydeltapi.com/erotic-products.htm


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You can use these polls to tell your own history or the history of someone you know about.
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Alien abduction - investigation of memories of alien abduction or similar events, like abduction for surveillance and experimentation by governments or mafias

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/616524

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Extended, mandatory well-child examination under anesthesia - where the kid undergo endoscopic inspections in the intimate zone and other body areas, extensive ultrasound inspections, ex-rays of several body zones, intrusive specimen collection and body function testings:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/611395

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Poll about cystoscopy or bladder inspections in kids and adults:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/615327

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Secret, intimate, intrusive medical exams and procedures under anesthesia on kids and adults:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/608976

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Called in for a strange physical or psycological exam:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/605807


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All the polls also have a message board. The individual stories of each participant will be published here. Here you can add comments or ask questions.


Knut Holt

aquila_grande@yahoo.no

Please also see his website with interesting information about alternative treatments, fitness and sex

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm


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SOME OF THE STORIES I HAVE COLLECTED

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Girl, 12yo, USA, Michigan, Exam in group to check pubertal development and for education about their bodies

I am a female. I was a teenager, 12 yo. The exam occured in North America, Michigan, in the period 1990-1999, at School. It was a group exam with many other girls, the idea is for us to get used to seeing each other naked. It all occured in the gymnasium. Parents brought me in.


They said it would help with my fear of showering with other girls. The school nurse did the exam. Also present were another nurse and several other girls my age and their parents

OVERVIEW OF THE PROCEDURE

They examined my head teeth or jaws. They did an orthopedic exam. They examined the organs inside my chest. They examined my organs inside my stomach. They examined my genitals. They examined my rectal zone. They did a general examination of my pelvic zones. They performed a psychological exam. They made interrogations about my social relations and my daily life.

Please add any comment about details. The idea was to show to everyone that our bodies are normal and healthy

ARRANGEMENTS

I was totally naked. My positions during the exam: mostly standing in view of the others They had us all in a circle so we could see each other


THE SEQUENCE OF THE ORDEAL AS IT PROCEEDED

First told me to take all my clothes off, secondly went over my body in detail touching and checking all the external parts. Thirdly the usual eyes-ears check. Then they felt inside my vagina. Then they just had us stand there for a while all naked and told us to look at each other. Lastly they sent us to the locker room to take a shower together


All along they talked to us about our feelings and how it's normal and okay for girls to get naked.


REASON AND OPITION

What do you think was the reason for this exam? I said I was scared to change and shower for gym next year. I think all the other girls were too. It felt weird at first but long-term I think it was worth it


DETAILS ABOUT THE UROGENITAL EXAM

They palpated my outer female genitals.They spread my genital lips to look inside. They also rubbed me a lot. They spread my cheeks and examined extarnally my rectal zone. They pointed out who had the most pubic hair and breasts and assured us these differences are ok


FOLLOW-UPS

Parents talked to me at home and made sure I was okay with the gym class policies



COMMENTS

In addition to the mentioned reasons, the exam probably had the purpose of finding out how long the pubertal development of the girls had come and this was surely recorded for each girl.


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Boy, North America, internal pelvic exam at shoolage and early teen done at school

I am male. At schoolage 6-9. As early teen 13-16. The procedure happened in North America, before 1960.

I had cystoscopy or other procedure through my urethra. They performed an exam or procedure, but was not given information about what they did.

The procedure occured in the school. School exam. Mom took me. Being undressed for a physical exam at nurse office at school.


ANESTHESIA

I got pills as anesthesia. I had local anesthesia only as far as I remember. I was given sedative medicines through my mouth. I was awake but drowsy from the anesthesia. I though I was conscious all the time, but I do not remember parts of the procedure, as if i was unecpectedly unconscious.


SYMPTOMS AFTERWARDS

Afterwards I had pain, irritation or other problems in my urethra or bladder. I had slime, bleeding, discharge or rest of lubrication coming out of my urethra. I had pain or irritation in my anus or rectum. I had pain, irritation or gas in my colon or lower stomach. I felt sore.


OBSERVATIONS

My parents or others giving hints or remarks about unexpected symptoms or signs. The school health service was more than usually interested in you around the time of the procedure, and asking questions or doing exams that did not seem to be related to the procedure.

ARRANGEMENTS AFTERWARDS

They checked my breathing and asked me questions.



COMMENTS

In certain schools and communities around the world kids are called in for a mandatory examination of the urinary system, genitals, lower digestives system, pelvic structures and other body parts that are especially of interest for the development and daily habits.

This seems to be an international program coordinated by some global organization. The program that seems to be highly standardized has been going on since the 1950es and is still going on even more than ever before. This seems to be an early account of the program.

The kids are often given anesthesia for these exams to hinder them from remember what is done, even though this varies from place to place.

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GIrl, 12 yo - Poland - cystoscopy to explore urination problems

My doughter had cystoscopy. The exam took place in Eastern Europe, Poland at 12 years old, year 2011. The cystoscopy occured in a hospital. Got an accurate explanation of what should be done and the reason. She was brought there by me, the mother. The reason was problems with urination.

Preparations:
Had to stop eating several hours before the cystoscopy. Given enema during preparations. Vitals taken like temperature, heart rate and blood pressure. A doctor came, asked questions and explained. A consent formula was presented and signed.

Anesthesia and arrangements:
Got a shot to calm down and make sleepy. Was totally naked during exam. She lay on back with legs in stirrups.

How the exam occured:
They put a rigid stick-like cystoscope in through the urethra. They pumped up and irrigated bladder with water when looking inside.","They took out the scope and inserted a new scope to take further specimens. The scope or a new intrument was inserted even further up towards the kindeys.

They inserted an ultrasond probe in through the anus to inspect the bladder and genital area. Other additional exams.

Arrangements before the exam:
Had catheter in the bladder some time after the exam. Had to stay in bed more that a day after the exam. Got medicines into urethra with a syringe after the exam.

Diagnosis and follow-up:
Diagnosis - valves or constrictions in the urethra. Had corrective surgery. Had to have a cathetherization routine.

JUdgements:
It was unneccessary. It was painful.


Comments:
It is uncertain how much of the information given here that is from what the doughter experiemced, from the mother present and seing all, or from information given.

The procedure described is a fairly standard examination for children with problems during urination. But it was added that other exams were done, but not what. The ultrasound inside her anal region probably had the purpose of getting a broad pelvic overview. In boys and younger girls the anus is typically used for that exam. In girls in full puberty and adult women the ultrasound is more often performed through the vagina.

Children that have such procedures will always be totally naked during preparations, and mounting, but then other body areas than just pelvic zones is usually covered. In the recovery period, the kid will again often be totally naked under a blanket.

If she was totally naked all the time, they probably did some additionl tests further up in her body with external instruments too, most probably ultrasound exams or x-ray pictures taken. The purpose was probably a full assessment of her development and pubertal status.

I guess that the mother left the room just after her doughter had been mounted so that she did ot see the whole procedure. I think that her doughter then was intubated, given full general anesthesia with artificial breething during the procedure, but not given information about this. The long recovery time seems to indicate that.

The mother indicates that she deems the procedure unneccessary. If she had a narrow urethra or some blockings there, it could have caused bigger problems in the future. But from the account it looks like they corrected it with a more major surgery, while it could be corrected with a fairly easy procedure.

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Girl, Bolivia, 13yo, cystoscopy in a health center followed by her mother

My doughter had cystoscopy. I brought my daughter in for an exam when she complained of some pain downstairs. The exam took place in South or mid America, Bolivia, when she was 13 years old, Year 2007. She had cystoscopy in a health centre.


PREPARATIONS

We got no explanation in the first place . The exam was a total surprize. The doctor didn't talk much. I brought my daughter to the health center. Got to a special preparation room. Had to undress completely and go to bed.


Then taken vitals like temperature, heart rate and blood pressure. A doctor came, asked questions and explained. A consent formula was presented and signed.

I undressed my daughter completely. In my country exams are always done in the naked. I signed a form saying the medical staff could do as they liked.


ARRANGEMENTS AND ANESTHESIA

She got pain-killing gas through a mask that made calm and sleepy. Was totally naked during exam. She lay on her back with straight legs, then lay on back with legs in stirrups. The doctor put my naked daughter in a lot of positions, including "Frog leg" position, during the examination. She just got a little gas to calm down, but was awake.


THE EXAM PROCEDURE

They put a flexible snake-like cystoscope in through the urethra. They also used an ultrasond probe on the stomach to inspect the bladder area. They inserted an ultrasond probe in through the vagina to inspect the bladder and genital area. They were very quick probes, the doctor said everything was fine.

While we were there, he gave her a full head to toe physical examination, saying it was good to have these done as often as possible, and that I should do them for her at home as well.


DIAGNOSIS AND FOLLOW-UPS

Diagnosis - urinary infection. He said she had a mild UTI and some cranberry juice would clear it up. If it didn't, I should come back for another exam and get antibiotics. The reason was urinary infection.


JUDGEMENT

It was useful. I would bring my daughter to this doctor several more times, he was good and thorough.


COMMENTS

The procedure was done as it should be done, with just that anesthesia needed to make the girl comfortable, but not the exaggerated anesthesia often use in North America and Western Europe, which adds discomfort before and after the exam and adds risks.

A consent where the parents allow the doctor to do anything, is however not a good thing. A concent form should explain exactly what procedures they intended and only ask concent for that.

Edited by Knut Holt

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm

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