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Subject: Re: DAK amputee


Author:
Kent
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Date Posted: 16:58:53 12/14/01 Fri

Kent:

Thanks for the search-eads on the internet. See my answer to Kathy's message where I mention that I haven't as yet found anything the works for me.

If you have any thoughts on stubbies I would appreaciate your input.

Charlie

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Subject: Re: DAK amputee


Author:
Kathy
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Date Posted: 16:51:51 12/14/01 Fri

Kathy:

Thanks very much for your words about how you got back into the saddle and have managed to make it all work with your family. I followed Kent's lead and followed up on, `Rding for the handicapped', and as yet haven't found anything that works for me. As you know from my comments to Kent, I am pretty remote from prosthetists in terms of distance so any solution I come up with has to be worked out locally, and soon! I would appreciate it if you would ask your husband if he thinks 4" stumps are too short for stubbies. This has been mentioned to me before, but the answer was that it is possible but not very practical. The advantage of stubbies is that when we make camp at night hand or hip walking is a messy business when the site is not cleared, is littered with stones, dead wood, etc. and most of the time damp, or damn wet.

On the ranch we have a saddle maker and boot maker(!) of many years, Jose, who knows about all there is to know about leather craft. He keeps our harness, saddles, chaps, gun holsters and belts, rifle holsters, and even boots in good shape for the men in the bunk house, hands around the ranch, my younger brother and my family. He also does free-lance work for other ranchers when they need it, even though his shop and cabin is located on our ranch.

I read to him your message to me, and with a twinkle in his eye he pulled out of a cabinet a prototype for his equivalent of your "saddle shorts." He had collaborated with my wife to make the prototype before mentioning it to me. She is very clever with pattern making and sewing, and has fitted my jeans to my stumps. Hence, she was able to give him a pattern to work from. It is very similar to your version, with the following differences. It is of a fairly tough, heavy hide with the stumps also encased in leather to protect them both when in the saddle or on the ground. Since it is winter and getting cold, he lined the whole thing with a sheep skin. It is just like a pair of pants, with a fly secured with leather straps and lock snaps (very easy to open and lock closed. He has rings secured to the pants for quick connection to several straps fastened to the saddle. These can be cinched up to secure the pants to the saddle. Like yours, he curved the back of the waist up to give me added stability.

Needless to say, we went directly to the stables and saddled up my mare, Princess. I slipped into the pants which fit almost perfectly, tightened up on the cinch straps, and tried them out in our arena. They are unbelievably comfortable. Getting carried away with the results, I aksed them to bring a couple calves in so I could try roping. Despite the fact that I was out of practice, I managed to do it with considerable accuracy. But the most extraordinary thing is that somehow Princess quickly picked up verbal signals instead of the spurs. Animals have uncanny intuitions at times. I have always used spurs very sparingly with her, but now of course there were none to give her signals. She is a very good cutting horse so I imagine when we get in a herd she will do very well after I have trained her more specifically to respond to verbal signals.

Tnaks again for your interest and help. My best to your husband.

Charlie (and Princess)

P.S. We will be bringing a herd from the upper pastures to lower pastures next week. I hope I can go with the guys. This is an overnight deal, so we will see how the pants work out. I will take a pair of short crutches and see how manageable they are.

C.

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Subject: Re: DAK amputee


Author:
Kathy
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Date Posted: 11:58:19 12/11/01 Tue

Charlie:

I am also a DAK with short stumps (about 5"). I lost my legs at 16 in an accident. The thing that was most devastating was the prospect of not riding my horse again. Fortunately, I had a rehab therapist who pointed me in the right direction (I married him a few years later!). He got a saddle maker to make a leather "pair of short pants or shorts," so to speak, allowing the stumps to stick out a short distance, with a fairly high back at the waist line and fitted with quick-disconnect fittings on leather straps to secure the "pants" to the saddle. The fit is not tight, loose enough so I can move around to some extent. (We had to work on this to get it just right). I feel very secure and safe even at a gallop. I usually put the pants on before I mount my horse I am finally getting strong enough to pull myself up a rope attached to the saddle with hand rings attached in ladder fashion. When I am in the saddle I pull the rope up and secure it with saddle ties.

My husband is always figuring out ways to increase the number of things I can do on my own, not necessarily making things easier, but at least more fulfilling. Now that the kids are old enough to ride we have been going on camping trips in the summer in the mountains. He even had a pair of "saddle shorts" as we call them, made for our youngest to hold him in place, even with little stirrups where he can secure his feet. This year I am going to try "stubbies" so when we camp in fairly rugged areas I can get about easier by using short crutches when on the ground. I have a holster on the side of the saddle to hold the crutches. The trial runs we have made seem promising. There are times when I can even forget about not having legs.

Best luck to you. If there are any questions let me know.

Kathy

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Subject: DAK amputee


Author:
Charlie Calder
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Date Posted: 12:13:30 11/21/01 Wed

I am 29, a recent DAK, with stumps about 4". I am on the fence whether to try prostheses or stay with my chair for the long haul. What experience have other amputees had?

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[> Subject: Re: DAK amputee


Author:
Kent
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Date Posted: 18:31:28 11/23/01 Fri

Hi Charlie,

It seems most people with such short stumps use chairs - and their mobility on hands and hips is great, too.

I have seen one young man - congenital - who uses a body bucket with suspended legs, and crutches with a swing-thru gait. He is fine.

Another - who tried this - gave it away, and simply walks on his hands and hips everywhere. He hates chairs!

Very high-tech limbs might work for you, even so.

Good luck.

Kent

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[> [> Subject: Re: DAK amputee


Author:
Charlie
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Date Posted: 16:34:25 11/25/01 Sun

Kent:

Thanks for spelling out my options. I have to rule out the hi-tech option since the nearest prosthetist is about 125 miles from home. On the recent death of my Dad a couple of months ago, I was left with the full responsibility of a large cattle ranch, a couple of thousand acres. A chair, or hand walking is ok for the ranch house, but I do need to ride a horse, essential when I need to check for sickness in the herds, etc. I have been riding for most of my life with my Dad so I know what problems I will face. I have experimented sitting in a saddle and had the guys strap me in place, at least enough to get a sense of what adaptation to a saddle will have to be made. If you have any information, or leads which might help I would appreciate a word from you, or anybody else.

Charlie

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: DAK amputee


Author:
Kent
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Date Posted: 23:00:57 12/04/01 Tue

Charlie,

Look for Riding for the disabled; they have all kinds of saddle modifications worked out. They must be in the US - certainly in Britain and Australia.

Good luck - short DAK people like you are definitely riding around the world.

Sorry for the delay - I've been away.

Kent

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: DAK amputee


Author:
Kent
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Date Posted: 23:00:57 12/04/01 Tue

Charlie,

Look for Riding for the disabled; they have all kinds of saddle modifications worked out. They must be in the US - certainly in Britain and Australia.

Good luck - short DAK people like you are definitely riding around the world.

Sorry for the delay - I've been away.

Kent

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Subject: Welcome to the New Forum


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Date Posted: 21:13:52 10/26/01 Fri

Sorry for the inconvenience. We've had to switch to a new forum provider. Let's see if we can't get some things started here again!

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