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Subject: Re: The Million Klinton Women's march


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Bulldog
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Date Posted: 18:42:44 11/30/00 Thu
In reply to: Meredith 's message, "Re: The Million Klinton Women's march" on 13:00:44 11/16/00 Thu

First of all, there were fears that the British would come back into the 1800's. Second of all, the Second Amendment was not just meant to provide us with a way to protect ourselves against outside forces, but against our own government. This was a measure to ensure that a tyrant would not become unstoppable. And despite what certain people would have you believe, this is always a threat. Some people say, "well that happened in Germany, this is America, it couldn't happen here." SAYS WHO????? Just because we live in the home of the free and land of the brave doesn't mean we won't get some sick tyrant with enough pull to get us in a bind. Supposing that there were only 10 handgun related deaths, how many murders were committed with other weapons, like knives, and since this is England, bombs, which I'm sure have been banned for longer than handguns. Oh, and if you haven't been following the news, they are considering letting the bobbies carry handguns because they are almost powerless against the criminals.
You talk about saving 1 innocent life by taking away the real way we have to defend ourselves. That sounds very nice, and I am all for saving lives, but at what cost? Our Freedom? Banning cars would save lives, and people die in swimming pool and even bathing accidents all the time, should we ban these too? Fact is, we have already seen our rights slowly taken away, and if the government succeeds in taking away the only protection we have against a tyranical government, all is lost.
Oh, last thing, if we are morons for believing that our constitutional rights should be protected, I can't even imagine the ignorance involved in believing that our rights should be taken away.
Bulldog

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Date Posted: 11:10:20 12/01/00 Fri

Meredith, Your argument is intellectually dishonest. As a matter of fact the British did come back in 1812. But your framing of the argument shows your ignorance of the subject matter. Madison wrote the second amendment based on our absolute right of self defense.

Do you really think that if every handgun was confiscated by the government, that the absence of handguns would make a difference? How would the absence of handguns transform an evil wicked hearted person that places no value on human life into a good citizen? You appear to only find death by handguns as being offensive and regard all other forms of murder as unavoidable.

Get a grip and study the document called the U. S. Constitution and try reading the Federalist Papers while you are at it. Those papers contain all the information regarding the forefathers thoughts that you pretend to know and understand.

redgold

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