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Date Posted: 13:34:43 11/06/13 Wed
Author: Buc2
Author Host/IP: 23.25.106.209
Subject: Well no shit. I understand that.
In reply to: 5280 's message, "Re: Why stop at retail?" on 13:25:06 11/06/13 Wed

>>>
>>>>My daughter works in the retail industry. Why
>>doesn't
>>>>she deserve to be able to take the holiday and spend
>>>>it with her family? For retail workers, there is no
>>>>choice. There is no, "take the day off". There is
>>>>"be here or be fired".
>>>
>>>There's no alternative than shaming campaigns,
>>>boycotts and legislation?
>>>
>>>Here's what I did, when I was pulling holiday shifts
>>>twenty years ago:
>>>(Mind you, there were other reasons why the
>>>noon-to-4:00 window was difficult on Thanksgiving
>>>Thursday...like divorce-split families and travel
>>>time. In other words, this situation is nothing at
>all
>>>new...nor is it outrageous and egregious.)
>>>
>>>First, at retail, we split shifts into 4-hour
>>>increments. Or some of us bargained for Christmas
>over
>>>Thanksgiving in a "rotation" sense. There was
>>>flexibility to a certain extent. We worked together
>to
>>>help each other. (Plus it was a double-time wage day!
>>>I requested the Turkey Day shift on occasion.)
>>>
>>>Next, our family simply postponed the meal or held
>off
>>>desserts. We played around with timing so everyone
>>>could be included in the "gathering" sense of it one
>>>way or another. A few times (and again this year,
>>>consequently) we held a Thanksgiving feast on Friday
>>>to accommodate schedules.
>>>
>>>Finally, and most importantly, we didn't forget the
>>>spirit of the thing. If we missed the first helpings,
>>>we were still thankful for the re-heats. Somebody
>>>making you a plate and warming it for you is perhaps
>>>the most gracious behavior of all. People choosing to
>>>sit in the kitchen whilst I ate over the sink, to
>>>converse with me, was every bit as important a
>>>Thanksgiving moment as any.
>>>
>>>Hell, a carload of us took a dinner plate to a
>working
>>>relative one year! Is that not, in its own way, even
>>>more memorable?
>>>
>>>Radical capitalism can't take away any of that unless
>>>you somehow let it. It can be made to work. I've seen
>>>it.
>>
>>First of all, what you said was the same in my family.
>>My mom was a server (we called em waitresses back
>>then). Do you think she EVER got a Thanksgiving or
>>Xmas day off? Pfft! Maybe if she happened to be
>>between jobs when one of those 2 holidays rolled
>>around. In other words, very rarely. There was no dad
>>in the picture, so us kids just had to get things down
>>during hours she wasn't at work. After that, I was in
>>the navy. How many holidays do you think I got off
>>then?
>>
>>Anyway, as I was saying, why stop at retail? How 'bout
>>our police, fire and doctors? How 'bout our military
>>and the folks at the power companies? Tons of people
>>have to work on these holidays. It's not just
>
>When you talk about military, police, fire and
>doctors, you're talking about emergency services. Why
>don't you try to make a doctor's appointment now for
>Thanksgiving day. Tell me how it goes.
>
>>retailers. If the people don't want the stores open,
>>THEY have the power to stop it. That's all I was
>>saying. I certainly do not want to see some sort of
>>government buttinsky laws legislating it.
>
>I'm saying the same thing.

The point is, plenty of people work on those holidays. That's life, so buck up.

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