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Date Posted: 10:57:33 12/03/01 Mon
Author: Weird_Enigma
Author Host/IP: 172.151.69.96
Subject: TOO MUCH KILLINGS IN THE NAME OF GOD

The same thing that I posted at my other board some time ago and a few months back at EarthAlchemy.

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A voice of reason
Or
TOO MUCH KILLINGS IN THE NAME OF GOD.

This silliness must stop. One should never be so fanatical about ones belief to kill others. Thus if one side is so fanatical about its belief to die for it, then the other side must be just as fanatical about dying just to defend itself. Thus there can be no logical dialogue/talk so both sides can reach a reasonable solution, in a world filled with people willing to die for their ignorant beliefs.

They have both deluded themselves to belief each is on Gods side and the other side is pure evil. Will this MADNESS ever end?

Except from Osama bin Laden taped remarks yesterday http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011007/wl/attacks_bin_laden_text_1.html
>they want to wag their tail at God, to fight Islam, to suppress people in the name of terrorism.<

Except from President Bush statements after air strikes yesterday
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011007/pl/bush_bombing_text.html
>we will make it more difficult for the terror network to train new recruits and coordinate their evil plans.<
>The United States of America is an enemy of those who aid terrorists and of the barbaric criminals who profane a great religion by committing murder in its name.<

both evoking God at the end of their speeches:
end of bin Laden's:
>God is great, may pride be with Islam. May peace and God's mercy be upon you.<

At the end of Bush's
>Thank you. May God continue to bless America<

In Ben Ladens at the begging there was:
"There is no God but God and that Muhammad is his messenger."

No God but God???? There is no God but then there is a God? Makes no sense to me. Only Muhammad could speak to God and no one else could? Sounds like he(Muhammad) was lying to manipulate and control people so they would die for him as he lead them into war. Sounds like Ben Laden is just using Islam to brainwash others into dyeing for him, just like Muhammad did?

So how can Bush say >profane a great religion by committing murder in its name< when their religious hero "Muhammad" leads his followers in a war? Doesn't sound Godly at all. But then again, I don't know too much about Islam, so what do I know. Joan of Arc said she was following God and lead an army too. So maybe she was lying also about communicating with God, and everyone else who said they spoke to God and killed in his name. THEY WHERE ALL BLOODTHIRSTY STINKING LYERS, KILLING IN THE NAME OF GOD. Saying God blesses America, especially during war time. "In God we stand" stamped on its money, money drenched in blood, and based in greed. ALL LIES.

Unlike Jesus or Buddha Muhammad was a killer, he lead an army, conquering others. While Jesus or Buddha would rather die then pick up the sword, and Jesus did die.

Again bin laden pop
>These events have divided the whole world into two sides. The side of believers and the side of infidels, may God keep you away from them<

Again Bush baby:
>If any government sponsors the outlaws and killers of innocence, they have become outlaws and murderers themselves. And they will take that lonely path at their own peril.<

Sounds like their trying to say something like:
"If you don't hold the same beliefs as we do, then you are evil and by Gods word, must be destroyed."
Everyone hear how silly all this is. All pure outrageous idiocy, I say, nothing but idiocy. If one side makes a statement like this, the other side must make a similar statement by default, just to counter/defend themselves. But the person themselves should not be destroyed, for they are not the cuprit/cause of all this bloodshed, its only the misbegotten ideal/belief that they hold onto like a death grip that causes all the trouble. People are only the carries. But they are the ones to be shot and killed, because they are seen as the cause. While the real cause hides within.

Killing the holders of beliefs that cause death with ships, planes, weapons, ammo, personal costing hundreds of billions of dollars is as stupid as killing people to stop a malaria epidemic while the virus within the misquotes continue to infest more people. This is a barbaric way, this world can be smarter, do better. Not by wasting billions on weapons but by educating the world of the root cause, "beliefs". People are only the holders.

A question I ask:
Are there beliefs that once certain people are infected by it, they will not yet go of it, because the very belief is designed in such a way so the person holding it would rather die then yet go? With some beliefs it would seem so, but I wonder.

Or is it more like a combination of beliefs that has a devastating effect. Especially certain religious beliefs. The writers of the bible, Quron/Karon and other religious scribbling, these writers where so out of touch with source, and because of their remoteness they added all kinds of infectious, ignorant, beliefs/belief structures. Now that this planet is reawakening, all these old religious text must be rewritten to take out this subversive/ignorant belief structures. Once rewritten, they will reflect more and more the true source and each other. There will no longer be a need for all these different religious for all religions will come together as one. All the old religious text will be kept only for a history lesson, a view into a quaint benign ignorant barbaric era in human history.

Joe

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