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Subject: Re: HORRIBLY FRAUDULENT BREEDER ASSOCIATION


Author:
Danger
Author Host/IP: 63.225.233.130
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Date Posted: 18:00:49 03/19/07 Mon

>>John I see you are scamming people by selling dogs
>>with no papers. I see you are telling people that bald
>>headed lie that they are ADBA registered. Why are you
>>doing this HONEST John?
>>
>>HORRIBLY FRAUDULENT BREEDER ASSOCIATION
>>(H.F.B.A.)
>
>Hey John how is Sprocket doing?...LOL!
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>ee.php?dog_id=244366
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>I guess you forgot what you said about I.M. and his
>dogs? Well let me remind you. Remember this John?
>
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>Author:
>FTJ
>Author Host/IP: 207.200.116.132
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>Look Mike. I'm not interested in your cow jumped over
>the moon stories. Like I said you have your story and
>yet there is still other stories that are in direct
>conflict with your ideas. I don't care how any of
>those dogs are bred according to you. It just don't
>matter. As far as I'm concerned the only dogs I know
>not to bred to are yours. Thats fine with me. I will
>always have an honest response regarding Wilder's Red
>Satan and his origin. I'm one person that you will
>have to live with, that did not, nor will ever, accept
>your cockin bull stories and especially your pedigrees.
>
>The End
>
>I see you have a short memory John that post was from
>a year ago. That post was from this board and it's in
>the archives. Funny how you are doing a complete 180
>now buying a 1/2 Hemphill/Norrod dog...LOL! Too bad
>the dog will end up just like EVERY dog in your
>yard...UNTESTED! Damn what I really mean is never
>having a tooth in them!
>
>I aslo like how you post ADBA #'s on dogs that are
>actually registered...LOL! Why not post the ADBA #'s
>on those OFBA dogs(Fred, Franco, Bess and Koko Moe)? I
>forgot you don't have papers!

Here is your response to your e-mail John.

John wrote...I notice none of the dogs in the first 4 generations have titles nor or they mentioned at any great length regarding quality and fitness.

** The dogs in Danger's first four generations need no introduction because of the name that appears on those four generations. The concept you fail to grasp is the breeder is more important than genetcics...why? A breeder can manipulate the genes to their standards and over a period of time can produce dogs much better than the stock they started with. The name that appears is a PERFORMANCE BREEDER who has bred Winners, Champions, Grand Champions and ROM dogs. Do you think his standards and program is much better than Wilder's, Sitzes', Pritts', Hanna's, Ishikawa's, Farkas', Ringor's & Santos'? Considering none of the above names mentioned produced ONE WINNER! None of the above names have seen 16 x 16! This is the reason why you have to go back to Geronimo II in Danger's ped to see a dog that wasn't tested. Every dog in Danger's ped except Geronimo is a Champion, Grand Champion, Winner or game tested GAMEDOG! Looking at your dogs' peds you only have to go to Copperhead's sire Grizzly to see a CUR!

John wrote... On top of that, I understand that someone has finally pulled the cloak of deceit from off the eyes of the fooled public. YOUR DOG IS A PAPER HUNG MARKETING TOOL and once again proving you are a sham and a racket. Try BLASTING that reality into your brain with the hope you will feel shame for being a crook and thief.

** I would like to know who pulled the cloak of deceit concerning Danger's ped? If you are thinking it was Gino think again. Where did he get his dogs from John? Here is a hint John, the same place I bought Danger from...THE SOURCE! Here is my number (801) 563-3951, call me and we can get the source on three way ANYTIME you like. The next time you talk to Gino ask him where Sierra and Spike are? Let me give you a hint...they are not with him! As a matter I left Gino my number and he has yet to call...wonder why? I think the source I got my dogs from pedigrees have NEVER been in question EVER! Last time I checked Gino got his dogs from who? By the way John where do you think that dog you own Sprocket came from, well atleast half his ped?...LOL!

I like the way you say I'm a shame and a racket, well John this is for you. Your memory is HORRIBLE considering you were expecting a large litter from the Koko/Bess breeding and you were doing what? Trying to sell pups that aren't registered and claimed to be ADBA registered. This jog your memory John?

----- Original Message -----
From: RealDogs@aol.com
To: Brolee357@yahoo.com
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 3:28 AM
Subject: Check out Pedigree 184219


Pedigree 184219

due in march 2005. all red within one family for several years. not exploited through commercial marketing or big name kennel. over 50X wilder's red satan in 10 generation, 12x kipling's sarona korihor in 10 generation. USUALLY NONE FOR SALE. expecting large litter and may have one or two available. bred down clean and honest no temperament issues nor unstable aggression confirmation solid. both sire and dam are good producers of fine dogs. ADBA REG. MEDICAL CERTIFICATE and any other validation provided. $500.00 - $900.00 plus shipping through Delta Airlines. NO GROUND TRANSPORT.

H.F.B.A.
John I was just in the ADBA office today talking to Patty about the SLC Terrier Assocation BBQ and still to this date those OFBA dogs you own have no papers and aren't registered with any registry. Shame on you for trying to run the same game Lano ran on you. Stop trying to sucker people into thinking your dogs are registered, luckily the person sent me the email and I pulled his coat tail to the scam you were trying to run.

John wrote...You are a wannabe with no real purpose. I tried to help you with some real realities regarding your dealings with people who continue to be criminals and a threat to the APBT BREED. Try being honest for a change and give up your personal vices that make your life so complicated and meaningless.

** I'm a wanna be John? You remember when Mike P. went to your yard to breed Shooter to Bess and Bess didn't have a scratch on her? Remember that John? Then again you are following in the footsteps of the CLOWNS in your dog's pedigree. It's not hard to pick one John just close your eyes and I promise you won't miss one who had done the same. I don't think my life is meaningless at all. I follow the same standards of REAL DOGMEN and to take it a step further no dog will get bred unless it's a WINNER or has produced WINNERS. Unlike Koko Moe who was 15 pounds heavier than Heck and could barely break the skin on a dog that wasn't defending itself. How many litters you have had off Moe now like 4 and how many winners? Remember this ad for a 13 month old sire with no papers?

For Sale
August 6 2003 at 4:25 PM
No score for this post John Hunt John Hunt (no login)
from IP address 204.100.7.2

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Inbred old family red nose pups. 2 males 1 female.

Copperhead [OFBA]
CoCo Moe
Scrap Yard Nikki

[litter of 8]available September, deposit required $500.00.

Magnum 44
Scrap Yard Nikki Magnum 44
Little Kesha

These are quality pups, good looking and very good acting. $1,500.00. No negotiation, serious inquires only. call 760 394 4181 california.
24 times Kipling Sarona Korihor
12 times Wilder Red Satan
White/Red color

Once again John I love the way you tried to SUCKA people out of hard earned money for what?

John wrote... Get your priorities together and do the right thing. Leave the Pit Bull project to those who know what they are doing. You are not the one!!!

** John I don't mind your babble. while you are breeding dogs that haven't had a tooth in them I'm on the verge of making HISTORY! While your dogs will never have a suffix attached to their names I will make sure EVERYTHING I breed does! This is what seperates the Boss from the runners! The READY from the raw. That butter soft leather in a MAYBACH to the leather on the FONZE! Here is the crazy part John...I've only BEGUN!

IT ONLY GETS BETTER!






----- Original Message -----
From: RealDogs@aol.com
To: JBAMMONS@MSN.COM
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 5:50 AM
Subject: Check out Pedigree 108242


Pedigree 108242

I notice none of the dogs in the first 4 generations have titles nor or they mentioned at any great length regarding quality and fitness. On top of that, I understand that someone has finally pulled the cloak of deceit from off the eyes of the fooled public. YOUR DOG IS A PAPER HUNG MARKETING TOOL and once again proving you are a sham and a racket. Try BLASTING that reality into your brain with the hope you will feel shame for being a crook and thief. Give up Julius. You are a wannabe with no real purpose. I tried to help you with some real realities regarding your dealings with people who continue to be criminals and a threat to the APBT BREED. Try being honest for a change and give up your personal vices that make your life so complicated and meaningless. Get your priorities together and do the right thing. Leave the Pit Bull project to those who know what they are doing. You are not the one!!!

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