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Subject: Re: WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO BE THE BEST THERE IS ?????


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Date Posted: 12:41:46 02/15/07 Thu

>SEEMS LIKE A SIMPLE ANSWER.
>But if one looks at these posts one would have to
>assume
>that there are so many that claim to have that title.
>When talking about someone elses dog and you and that
>person
>get together to find answers you accomplish only one
>thing
>which is the better of the two,not the best there is.
>There is no bloodline that is superior then all others.
>There is however bloodlines that will show better then
>others yet that does not make them the very best.
>I just read on another forum about a post pertaining
>to what
>makes the dog great the dog or the man?
>Think about that for one second because it you go back
>to this forum and read some of the posts you will see
>some that
>from reading them that the poster really believes in
>his or her heart that there is no better then what
>they have.
>Now that this is out of the way,now consider
>this----------
>EYES-UNLESS THERE PLUCKED OUT OR ONE IS BLIND ALL HAVE
>THEM
>BUT ALTHOUGH ALL OR MOST HAVE THEM,ALL DON'T SEE THE
>SAME.
>EVREYONE SEES DIFFERENTLY.
>BRAINS-NOW THAT IS A GOOD SUBJECT,EVERYONE HAS ONE BUT
>NOT
>ALL USE WHAT THEY HAVE OR ABSORB THE SAME WAY,SOME ARE
>BURNED OUT TO THE FACT THEY ARE YARD BLIND OR COLORED
>BLIND.
>FOR THOSE THAT HAVE WALKED AROUND THE BLOCK LONG AGO
>THIS
>IS FOR YOU.IF YOU HONEST WITH ONESELF THEN YOU KNOW
>THAT ALL THINGS ARE NOT PERFECT,AS A MATTER OF FACT
>THERE IS NO
>SUCH THING.
>SO THAT BRINGS ONE TO THE QUESTION AT HAND MAN OR
>BEAST WHO MAKES THINGS BETTER.
>JUST TWO CENTS,FOR OLDER AND YOUNGER VIEWERS,MAN IS THE
>GREATEST ACTORS IN THE WORLD,AND THAT GOES FOR THE BEST
>BULL SHOOTERS.
>A BREEDER WILL PROCLAIM HE HAS THE BEST
>A BREEDER WILL PROCLAIN THAT HE WILL GUARANTEE
>GAMENESS,HEALTH,HOW LONG IT TAKES FOR THE DOG TO
>MATURE.
>IF THE MAN IS SELLING THE DOG IT CAN BE FOR MANY
>REASONS SO
>THAT CANNOT BE GONE INTO.
>ALOT SAY ITS THE DOG-TRUE IF YOUR GOING ON HOW THE DOG
>DOES WHAT YOU REQUIRE OF HIM OR HER.
>BUT IF YOUR A BREEDER THEN ITS MAN THAT HAS CONTROL
>OVER
>THE DOGS HE BREEDS AND WHAT MAKES THEM BETTER,NOW TAKE
>INTO
>CONSIDERATION WHO IS THE PERSON BEHIND THE FOUNDATION
>OF THE
>LINE.IT COMES DOWN TO A
>DRAW-------------------------------
>THE DOG WILL SHOW ITSELF AS TO HOW GOOD IS ANOTHER
>THING
>BECAUSE IT DEPENDS UPON THE PERSON AND WHO HE IS
>COMPETING
>WITH,THE DOG DOES NOT KNOW THE OTHER DOG HE IS
>COMPETING
>WITH.
>CONSIDER THE FACT THAT THERE IS A HIGH % OF DOGS THAT
>ARE
>NOT BRED THE WAY THE PAPERS SAY.
>AFTER READING THE POST IT HAS TO BE A DRAW.
>JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT,
>WHAT DO YOU THINK MAN OR
>DOG?????????????????????????????

This argument can broken down to Genes vs. Breeders. Both play an important part in the formation of a particular line or family.

Over the course of time breeders are the most important in the formation of a particular family. You can start with two littermates and breed them to different dogs and over the course of 30 or so years have dogs with very different traits and genetic variances.

Let's take breeder A who isn't a performance breeder and just sells dogs to pet owners. Breeder A doesn't have a standard of testing, culling and matching dogs. After two or three generations of breeding this way the quality(performance wise)of the dogs drop considerably. The pet owners who bought the dogs from breeder A bred to other dogs in which the same non performance standards were practiced. Now over the course of let's say 30 years what is the quality of the dogs you have now, performance wise?

Breeder B starts off with the same stock as Breeder A. Breeder B tests, culls and matches his stock only breeding the best examples. Nothing is peddled or sent to pet owners. Fast forward 30 years the performance of the original dogs is upgraded because of Breeder A's methods. Do you think Breeder B's dogs will be better or worse than Breeder A's dogs?

When you look at Breeder A's pedigrees you see atleast a half a dozen names in the first 3 generations. Each different breeder breeding to non performance standards. Each breeder breeding their own interpetation or their way. After 30 years you have a half a dozen different breeding paths, still with no common standard of performance.

Now Breeder B has controlled his stock for 30 years. Every dog that appears in his pedigrees is either a game dog, winner or champion. The only standard the dogs were bred to was performance.

In creating a family or line of dogs the human element(breeder) is the most important especially over the course of time. A breeder can create a human manipulation of Darwinism, the strongest and fittest only survive. Craeting better dogs that was oriiginaly started with.

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