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Date Posted: 15:15:51 07/07/06 Fri
HERE'S A FACT ... YOUR AFFLIATION WITH DOG THIEVES MAKES YOU A LIAR ...
**What dog thieves am I affiliated with? The following is all I know about your dogs since you cheated me on a pup deal. I received an e-mail from a fellow asking about my Shooter dog. When I asked him how he found out about my dog, he said that Shooter was the sire of a pup that he got from you (Shooter x Bess). He said you and he were trading pups. I told him what he wanted to know about Shooter and then he started asking other questions. He wanted to know what you paid for a stud fee. I told him that there was no stud fee and that we had a pup deal. He asked if you kept your end of the bargain and I told him the truth, which was that you did not. I did tell him that after the fact, you tried to make good on the deal with pups (as agreed) and/or a stud fee, but that since you went against your word the first time, that I no longer wanted to associate with you. I didnít want to know about your business and didnít ask. I just answered his questions. The person who had the pup from you then said that he was going to send your pup back because it didnít have any papers. Thatís all I know about any of your dog affairs since you rolled a bitch that didnít start as a yearling pup, labeled her a cold cur and then later bred to her.
Now if the person who e-mailed me stole something from you, my only affiliation with him is that he sent me an e-mail inquiring about Shooter and then asked questions about the deal we had. Had he told me that he was planning on stealing something from you, I would have warned you. I had some good dogs stolen from me in 1989 and wouldnít want to see anyone go through that. Yes, not even you. The people you have referenced in a private e-mail (ďYOUR FRIENDS IN SOUTH ALABAMA JORDAN AND JOHNSTONĒ), are also not affiliated with me. The only person I know (through e-mail) in Alabama is P.G. and Ed Tabor. PG wanted something off Shooter at one time and I knew Tabor because he had Clouse blood. As I wrote to you earlier, if I have any influence with someone who stole a dog from you, I will use it to have your dog returned. Fact is, I have no idea who you are talking about. Iím beginning to think that you never had a dog stolen and this is just more of your drama; nevertheless, all the information in my previous post is verifiable as it has been published by independent sources. The Journal and AADR lied too? We knew we could really burn you up in the future so we conspired to publish lies 20 Ė 25 years ago?
I DON'T CARE HOW YOU REASON ON ANYTHING I SAY ... THAT IS A FACT
**No problem. Stop whining then,
REGARDNG YOU AND A FEW OTHERS WHO BOAST OF BEING SOMETHING THEY ARE NOT ... THE ONLY COWARD YOU SEE IS THE ONE REFLECTED OFF MY BACK ...
**Iím not boasting. I offered what I know as fact through first-hand knowledge, which happened 25 or so years ago. You wrote that I lied about my history, so I gave you verifiable proof. That made you angry and now you say Iím boasting. This is a behavior trait you exhibit, when youíre faced with truths that you cannot legitimately dispute. This is within your character. I simply defended what I originally posted because you attacked it. As for the rest, I am more than willing to meet with you one and one and get things settled. I can disprove the statements you made, as I have the original materials I mentioned, or we can settle it any other way you see fit. Just make sure your issues are real, as I will hold no quarter due to your manifestations and one way or another you will be a changed man. Trust me on that one. Just do it honorably.
YOUR INFORMATION AND DIALOUGE IS VERY UNTRUE AND SUITS A CERTAIN CIRCLE OF 2 BIT HUSTLERS AND CON ARTIST ...
**My information is true. Itís published. Creating your own reality will not change what happened in the past, nor will it improve your line of dogs. Billy T responded to your Cochise post and you jumped all over him. He never mentioned you or your dogs, yet you personally attacked him. Your character. I responded to your Cochise posts and like Trumpler, never mentioned you or your line of dogs, yet you personally attacked me. You have done the same to Danger and others. We respond to an open post with information that we all were exposed too (like what the site was created for) and you become unglued because the response does not support your marketing scheme.
You assume we are this sewing circle of pals that get together and plan how to make you mad. Nobody wants to make you mad. I canít speak for the others but I think most are entertained by you.
My dog Shooter has two dogs close in his pedigree that quit (Sack & Betty Jo). If someone got on-line and started bad talking those dogs, you wouldnít see me hootiní and holleriní just because those dogs are in Shooterís pedigree. Doesnít matter that those dogs quit because Shooter proved himself.
YOU ARE NOT FOOLING PEOPLE WITH YOUR STRANGE CONCEPTS AND VAGUE HISTORY ...
**The only fooling going on is you trying your best to discredit those who tell the truth. You went with a line that used Topsey Turvey as an out. Deal with it. Get over it.
They made great show dogs and pets (AKA REALDOGS).
By the way, there is nothing vague about published articles, events or accomplishments. It is written, published fact. Permanent.
YOU HAVE NO EXPERIENCE AND ONLY TALK A STORM ...
**Iím far from all knowing but can reasonably and confidently detail my own experiences. Those experiences have been chronicled for eternity.
AS I HAVE MENTIONED BEFORE YOU HAVE YOUR LAME OPINIONS ...
**Lame because they do not support your opinions. Everybody is wrong and you are right?
THAT IN ITSELF IS NOT SUITABLE GROUNDS TO REFUTE ANYTHING SAID BY SOMEONE ELSE ...
**I did not refute anything with opinions. I refuted you with first hand experience, along with historical and published facts.
YOUR VERY LIMITED TRIAL AND ERROR WITH THESE DOGS PROVES THAT YOU ARE JUST A PAPER BOY ...
**Read. Read. Read. Read. Read. Read. Read. Read. Read.
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