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Author: ELSEE Author Host/IP: 24.52.89.240 |
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Date Posted: 15:43:24 03/21/06 Tue In reply to: Iron Mike 's message, "Re: If you could turn back time..." on 08:44:33 03/20/06 Mon >>Just thinking that if I could turn time back I would >>also make absolutely certain that the historical value >>of the now defunct OFRN was carefully preserved. > >Now defunct OFRN? LOL Only in your yard because there >are many out there which will disagree with you. >Once again this is only opinion not a fact because the >fact is, there are OFRN still around today. > >You sure are opinionate for someone who wasn't around >at the time. >You talk like you know all about these people. Like >you have talked to them or knew them personally. >Did you ever talk to Bob Hemphill, Jake Wilder or Bob >Wallace or lets say Leo Kinard, Frank Creed, Sonny >Sykes, Mrs. Corvino or her oldest son Tony, Jim >Wilson, Howard Heinzl, Frank Fitzwater, Floyd >Boudreaux and the family in TX., Any of these people? > >NO! You are being used when you parrot BS from other >people who know as much about the history of the breed >as you. > >>At the 26 year mark of 1980, many stories were based >>on "old timers" from the 60's and 70's who played >>games with actual facts and bloodlines. > >26 years hmmm I guess if someone was just getting into >dogs in 1980 then that is the only history they would >know. >But in my case as everyone knows I was born around the >dogs all my life because of coming from third >generation of APBT ownership. >26 years of what? since the creation of the OFRN? LOL >BS! 26 year mark of what? > >I know you were even around in 1980. >Or at least your show news wasn't back in the 70's Pit >Dog Report or information in Bloodline Journal about >you never appeared as it has with us. >Gee I don't recall your name in April 1976 when I was >in Chicago breeding Heidi (aka Flossie) to >Bodzainowski's Paddy Boy 3xw littermate brother to Ch. >Rascal and from my litter came Smokin Satan 2xw and >Pat got Tarzan 2xw. > >I also don't recall your name being around in 1972 >when we had Williams' Red Doll flew in from OK. from >Jim Williams and Leon Kimball. I don't remember your >name be said in 1965 when I rode with my brother down >to meet Bob Hemphill. > >I don't think in all the years owning this breed have >I ever met someone like you John that talk so much >about the history of the breed and lived so little of >it. > >>Because of >>those who were enjoying such title "old timer" some >>took advantage of that position in the pit bull world >>and ran away with crazy ideas and made up fables and >>myths to further confuse the novice. > >I do believe this is what you are trying to do here. >But I'm not surprise when I meet people like you >because I expect it because it is your way, it is your >culture. >You truly believe what ever you say to be excepted >when you know nothing about what you are talking about. >Why? >Because you believe your word is the Divine chosen >one's word. >I guess you didn't get the memo, you'll fell out of >favor. LOL > >>Maurice Carver is >>known for not giving the 411 on a lot of breeding and >>dogs he had and sold. Some are still following that >>example in the worst way. > >Here is a clear cut example your BS. "Maurice Carver". >Now what do you know about Maurice? >How do you know anything about the man? >I'm sure you been to his house, been to some of the >party's? >Been to some of the shows with him? >Now as far giving out 411 on information, THAT IS >BULLSHIT! >I guess since you like to quote from SDJ you missed >Bobby Lemm's letter about Maurice and him selling dogs >and what he told people. >You should have read it because it told how Maurice >really was. >Maurice didn't sell you a stud dog, he sold match dogs! >As far as telling about other people's breeding, that >is BS! >He didn't even paper his own. >John you need to close your mouth and listen and show >dogs before you try to write like you know the history >or people from the pass. >This is the difference from me and you, EVERRYONE I >named in this post, I did know and had met. >These are people I have talked too. > >>If I could turn back time, I think it would be better >>than how to breed Geronimo 2, with a cross, to just >>get some hard truth on these dogs and especially the >>OFRN that are gone today. > >As far as OFRN being gone, it is still around. As far >as Hemphill dogs, like I said before, I would not have >bred to him. I had the chance and didn't for the >reasons I named. > >If I wanted Hemphill and if I had my choices of what I >didn't go after, I think I would have went after the >Lightner dogs That Blair Hetrick had and Junior Bush >was feeding. >Or maybe I should have got more dogs from Jim Williams >and maybe tried to get some more Clouse dogs or if I >wanted the real good Hemphill dogs, I would have went >after Skaggs dogs....you should have went that way norrod,instead of linebreeding the curs that you call norrod dogs! [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |