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Subject: Re: PEOPLE JUST DON'T GET IT


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Date Posted: 01:12:15 02/08/06 Wed
In reply to: BILL TRUMPLER 's message, "PEOPLE JUST DON'T GET IT" on 13:13:15 02/07/06 Tue

>As I hope that all know that dogfighting is illegal.
>Just talking about how one views his or her dog as
>something
>special meaning game.Its pretty obviouse that in order
>to
>come to that concluseion one has to break the law.Yet
>there
>are people out there that act as if their invinceable
>to the
>fact that there are eyes that watch these boards and
>take
>down information that can indeed make life misserable
>for
>the breed and oneself.
>With that said here is some facts that are indeed
>history.
>There was indeed a time that it was overlooked to
>fight ones
>dogs and for those area's that did not overlook it a
>a slap on the hand.Now a felony.
>But reading the many boards people still don't get it.
>Its seems like bashing ones dog or bitch is something
>that
>seems to be enjoyment for some.
>First let me say I donot have any dogs at this time.
>I donot know it all and neither does anyone else.
>Telling others not to breed to a certain stud or bitch
>is
>wrong as everyone does things for a reason.
>Now the wake up call-
>For those that have one or more of the breed think for
>one
>moment belief the pedigree on the dog is 100% perfect.
>Wake up there is nobody that can say without a shadow
>of a
>doubt that they know for sure.
>Do todays breeders really believe in the fact that
>those that started bloodlines that are popular today
>only bred
>game to game.If you do your so far off base as the old
>timers bred curs and cold dogs and those dogs produced
>some
>dogs that many are proud to see in thier dogs pedigree.
>Half a life time with these dogs and time meeting or
>talking
>to those for the most part are long gone now yet their
>names
>appear in the bloodlines they produced.
>Again let me say this I nor anyone else knows it
>all.But after one spends as much time with this breed
>one does indeed learn the truths of how a cur or cold
>dog produced a bloodline or a super dog.
>Its was said when I myself was young and did not know
>the
>ways of those old dog men that they kept things under
>wrap.
>The things they learned were guarded.
>It was said a genious could indeed produce and idot
>and an idot could produce a genious.
>Therefore one cannot say that what they view as a cold
>or a
>curr cannot produce a game dog.
>And again I'll take a bashing as in order to find out
>if ones charge is all they say it is they have to do
>the illegal thing.
>Today is not the time for finding out this answer as
>today is the time to make sure the breed exsists for
>years to come
>as there are many that want to see them extinct.
>never say never that any dog can produce a world beater
>and never say never that a world beater cannot produce
>a cur
>a flop,a cold dog,a worthless bloodline.
>Those who talked the talk and walked the walk know
>what I'am
>saying and they also know the value of such a dog.
>Not to make a list but some of the dogs that are
>becomeing
>a bashers dream have and will continue to produce a
>fantastic dog at one time or another.
>I know from sitting and listening to those that are
>gone
>how some of the heavy hitters were produced.
>For those that look down on the dogs with a high % of
>what was said to be old family rednose blood take
>another look and study the pedigrees of past dogs and
>bloodlines.
>Ones eyes will surely open wide.
>Just like when they learn about what produced what it
>will
>come as a shock.
>But history is just that and its to many rippley's
>belief
>it or not per say.
>Some of the dogs being bashed for what they produced
>would be surprized as to what they really produced.
>So for those takeing a bashing it comes with the turf.
>Stick around thirty or more years and one would learn
>of the truths and falses.
>Just because a pedigree says this or that does not
>guarantee
>that the dogs in that pedigree are truely bred as said.
>One of the most famous breeders and well respected
>made a
>trade with another well known breeder,he traded a dog
>that
>is in most pedigrees today and the one he recieved had
>never
>produced a litter of pups as she was sterile.
>BUT WHEN SHE CAME INTO HEAT IT WAS SAID SHE PRODUCED A
>LITTER,BUT FOR THOSE IN THE KNOW IT WAS COMON
>KNOWNLEDGE
>THAT THERE WAS NO WAY SHE COULD HAVE DONE SO YET IF ONE
>LOOKS AT THE PEDIGREES TODAY ONE WOULD INDEED SEE SHE
>WAS SAID TO PRODUCE AND PRODUCE WELL.
>I'am nobody but someone that wanted to know the truth
>of the
>dogs I bred,and fed and cleaned up after.
>If you want to know for sure what your breeding do as
>others have done long before you (go by the first
>three
>generations) and no matter what one calls their dog
>its yours and you choose to feed and pick up after it
>and as long as your content the bashing on the
>bloodline one choose
>will be an on going thing.
>If one only knew the truth.What really hurts is many
>that
>produced the great bloodlines of today donot get the
>credit
>they truly deserve.
>I thought of writeing a book but that was before I
>learned
>the truth and falsehoods of the dogs past and present.
>By doing so it would be like turning the world upside
>down.
>And even letting out the truth one would still deny
>the facts.
>Again if one does not want to bring the heat upon
>oneself
>watch what one says and does,because your not
>invinceable or invisable belief it or not.
>Thankyou to Rosie the one that keeps this board going
>as
>the moderator.
>Perhaps just maybe this board will indeed be around
>for a few more years to come,hopefully the breed will
>also be around also.
>I want to thank Rosie for takeing the board over and
>if one can indeed help her do so as this board was to
>find the truth and falses of the breed.
>And most of all thankyou to a friend and well respected
>breeder MIKE AND DAN NORROD,THEY GOT THIS OFF THE
>GROUND AND ITS STILL GOING.
>AND NO MATTER WHAT, THEY ARE REAL AND WALKED THE WALK
>AND TALKED THE TALK AND AND HAVE SPENT AND AS FAR AS I
>KNOW STILL PRODUCEING THEIR BLOODLINE.

pass the mayo ...

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