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Subject: Re: PEOPLE JUST DON'T GET IT | |
Author: Clip Author Host/IP: 207.200.116.132 |
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Date Posted: 01:12:15 02/08/06 Wed In reply to: BILL TRUMPLER 's message, "PEOPLE JUST DON'T GET IT" on 13:13:15 02/07/06 Tue >As I hope that all know that dogfighting is illegal. >Just talking about how one views his or her dog as >something >special meaning game.Its pretty obviouse that in order >to >come to that concluseion one has to break the law.Yet >there >are people out there that act as if their invinceable >to the >fact that there are eyes that watch these boards and >take >down information that can indeed make life misserable >for >the breed and oneself. >With that said here is some facts that are indeed >history. >There was indeed a time that it was overlooked to >fight ones >dogs and for those area's that did not overlook it a >a slap on the hand.Now a felony. >But reading the many boards people still don't get it. >Its seems like bashing ones dog or bitch is something >that >seems to be enjoyment for some. >First let me say I donot have any dogs at this time. >I donot know it all and neither does anyone else. >Telling others not to breed to a certain stud or bitch >is >wrong as everyone does things for a reason. >Now the wake up call- >For those that have one or more of the breed think for >one >moment belief the pedigree on the dog is 100% perfect. >Wake up there is nobody that can say without a shadow >of a >doubt that they know for sure. >Do todays breeders really believe in the fact that >those that started bloodlines that are popular today >only bred >game to game.If you do your so far off base as the old >timers bred curs and cold dogs and those dogs produced >some >dogs that many are proud to see in thier dogs pedigree. >Half a life time with these dogs and time meeting or >talking >to those for the most part are long gone now yet their >names >appear in the bloodlines they produced. >Again let me say this I nor anyone else knows it >all.But after one spends as much time with this breed >one does indeed learn the truths of how a cur or cold >dog produced a bloodline or a super dog. >Its was said when I myself was young and did not know >the >ways of those old dog men that they kept things under >wrap. >The things they learned were guarded. >It was said a genious could indeed produce and idot >and an idot could produce a genious. >Therefore one cannot say that what they view as a cold >or a >curr cannot produce a game dog. >And again I'll take a bashing as in order to find out >if ones charge is all they say it is they have to do >the illegal thing. >Today is not the time for finding out this answer as >today is the time to make sure the breed exsists for >years to come >as there are many that want to see them extinct. >never say never that any dog can produce a world beater >and never say never that a world beater cannot produce >a cur >a flop,a cold dog,a worthless bloodline. >Those who talked the talk and walked the walk know >what I'am >saying and they also know the value of such a dog. >Not to make a list but some of the dogs that are >becomeing >a bashers dream have and will continue to produce a >fantastic dog at one time or another. >I know from sitting and listening to those that are >gone >how some of the heavy hitters were produced. >For those that look down on the dogs with a high % of >what was said to be old family rednose blood take >another look and study the pedigrees of past dogs and >bloodlines. >Ones eyes will surely open wide. >Just like when they learn about what produced what it >will >come as a shock. >But history is just that and its to many rippley's >belief >it or not per say. >Some of the dogs being bashed for what they produced >would be surprized as to what they really produced. >So for those takeing a bashing it comes with the turf. >Stick around thirty or more years and one would learn >of the truths and falses. >Just because a pedigree says this or that does not >guarantee >that the dogs in that pedigree are truely bred as said. >One of the most famous breeders and well respected >made a >trade with another well known breeder,he traded a dog >that >is in most pedigrees today and the one he recieved had >never >produced a litter of pups as she was sterile. >BUT WHEN SHE CAME INTO HEAT IT WAS SAID SHE PRODUCED A >LITTER,BUT FOR THOSE IN THE KNOW IT WAS COMON >KNOWNLEDGE >THAT THERE WAS NO WAY SHE COULD HAVE DONE SO YET IF ONE >LOOKS AT THE PEDIGREES TODAY ONE WOULD INDEED SEE SHE >WAS SAID TO PRODUCE AND PRODUCE WELL. >I'am nobody but someone that wanted to know the truth >of the >dogs I bred,and fed and cleaned up after. >If you want to know for sure what your breeding do as >others have done long before you (go by the first >three >generations) and no matter what one calls their dog >its yours and you choose to feed and pick up after it >and as long as your content the bashing on the >bloodline one choose >will be an on going thing. >If one only knew the truth.What really hurts is many >that >produced the great bloodlines of today donot get the >credit >they truly deserve. >I thought of writeing a book but that was before I >learned >the truth and falsehoods of the dogs past and present. >By doing so it would be like turning the world upside >down. >And even letting out the truth one would still deny >the facts. >Again if one does not want to bring the heat upon >oneself >watch what one says and does,because your not >invinceable or invisable belief it or not. >Thankyou to Rosie the one that keeps this board going >as >the moderator. >Perhaps just maybe this board will indeed be around >for a few more years to come,hopefully the breed will >also be around also. >I want to thank Rosie for takeing the board over and >if one can indeed help her do so as this board was to >find the truth and falses of the breed. >And most of all thankyou to a friend and well respected >breeder MIKE AND DAN NORROD,THEY GOT THIS OFF THE >GROUND AND ITS STILL GOING. >AND NO MATTER WHAT, THEY ARE REAL AND WALKED THE WALK >AND TALKED THE TALK AND AND HAVE SPENT AND AS FAR AS I >KNOW STILL PRODUCEING THEIR BLOODLINE. pass the mayo ... 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